Thanks for the list, even if I don't entirely agree about your summaries it is quite useful.
It's certainly desireable to have all tags be able appear in a game started in 1444 and that's why some events, cores and decisions keep being added for this every now and then.
General philosophy is this:
1. If a tag appeared as the result of a revolt it should most often have cores unless there is a good reason it could not have formed earlier (Oudh could definately have cores for instance, it's a splinter Sultanate like all others we have in India already).
As you point out there might be some more of these tags that could get starting cores.
2. If a tag appears in an uncolonized area it might be "Funjed".
3. If a tag appeared in a way covered by either of these it probably requires some other way to appear. It might be a formable or to be handled in some other way. It's really not desirable to give away provinces owned by someone very often though and if the circumstances does require something like that then the owner ought to get a choice of how to handle it (see the event for Janjira/Habsan). Sometimes events might place cores when a group becomes a viable revolter when it wasn't before (see the emergence of the Marathas in the game now, though this might be handled better). Stuff that falls into this category and the last one generally takes longer to happen as implementation is more complicated and deserves time being devoted to it.
I also don't entirely agree with the way you describe the appearance of many of these tags which might be why our chosen implementation differ (for instance neither Nagpur or Hyderabad would necessarily have to be broken from MUG, IMO. Especially not Nagpur as its formation never had much to do with the Mughals).
As stated above this one already exists and has existed since the tag was first added. It's not entirely as you describe but pretty close.
Habsan, it's ideas and formation event are all tribute to the pretty interesting state that it was.
It's certainly desireable to have all tags be able appear in a game started in 1444 and that's why some events, cores and decisions keep being added for this every now and then.
General philosophy is this:
1. If a tag appeared as the result of a revolt it should most often have cores unless there is a good reason it could not have formed earlier (Oudh could definately have cores for instance, it's a splinter Sultanate like all others we have in India already).
As you point out there might be some more of these tags that could get starting cores.
2. If a tag appears in an uncolonized area it might be "Funjed".
3. If a tag appeared in a way covered by either of these it probably requires some other way to appear. It might be a formable or to be handled in some other way. It's really not desirable to give away provinces owned by someone very often though and if the circumstances does require something like that then the owner ought to get a choice of how to handle it (see the event for Janjira/Habsan). Sometimes events might place cores when a group becomes a viable revolter when it wasn't before (see the emergence of the Marathas in the game now, though this might be handled better). Stuff that falls into this category and the last one generally takes longer to happen as implementation is more complicated and deserves time being devoted to it.
I also don't entirely agree with the way you describe the appearance of many of these tags which might be why our chosen implementation differ (for instance neither Nagpur or Hyderabad would necessarily have to be broken from MUG, IMO. Especially not Nagpur as its formation never had much to do with the Mughals).
As stated above this one already exists and has existed since the tag was first added. It's not entirely as you describe but pretty close.
Habsan, it's ideas and formation event are all tribute to the pretty interesting state that it was.
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