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Pyoro

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And we're singing the same old song
And we're all just singing along

Sigh. I know it's easy to grumble from an outside perspective with no knowledge of internal workings and only very rudimentary knowledge about software QA in the first place, but I can't say, as a costumer, I noticed any improvements whatsoever those last x years regarding buggy releases, buggy patches, and buggy DLC, despite repeated promises to do better.

It's just annoying, is what it is.
 

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We have a big problem: contrary to my first two looks at the AI in the beta patch, it's still disrespecting tile resources like crazy.

(Of course it's still not shy about needlessly redeveloping tiles either.)
 

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So we're back to square one again? :eek:
I wouldn't say square one. I'd have had to get really lucky (or unlucky) to get an AI to respect all tiles on all of its worlds for me, but it's still having the problem even very early in the game when it has no constraints about where to build. I only took a couple of screenshots before I got depressed and closed the game, but here's one:
2017_05_11_28.png
 

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I wouldn't say square one. I'd have had to get really lucky (or unlucky) to get an AI to respect all tiles on all of its worlds for me, but it's still having the problem even very early in the game when it has no constraints about where to build. I only took a couple of screenshots before I got depressed and closed the game, but here's one:
View attachment 264838

To be fair, this was a hotfix baked out of hot code so hot it's still burning red, so I have hope that the next patch will make more progress on the AI front.
 

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Why wouldnt they eventually release it?


Wait a sec....
stellaris is one of the best selling games pdx ever made, just because a few people get pissy on the forums doesn't mean they will give up, they wont abandon it alright. calm urself.
I mean in a reasonable time frame it's not "get the opt in patch or these things won't come until the next major patch" it's "We uploaded an optional one immediately to get it into people's hands asap and the full patch hotfix will be out as soon as we're sure that it's not causing even more problems" right?
 

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Thanks for the quick Hotfix
 

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And we're singing the same old song
And we're all just singing along

Sigh. I know it's easy to grumble from an outside perspective with no knowledge of internal workings and only very rudimentary knowledge about software QA in the first place, but I can't say, as a costumer, I noticed any improvements whatsoever those last x years regarding buggy releases, buggy patches, and buggy DLC, despite repeated promises to do better.

It's just annoying, is what it is.

Then you don't remember older Paradox games. I've been here since EU2 and, oh boy, in the good old times it was a given for a game to be unplayable for weeks or months after release. The company QA is miles better now.
 

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Then you don't remember older Paradox games. I've been here since EU2 and, oh boy, in the good old times it was a given for a game to be unplayable for weeks or months after release. The company QA is miles better now.

Though given how much longer a given patch version stuck around you had a much larger window of playable versions then. And Paradox was much much smaller in the EU2 days.
 

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As has been said repeatedly, you must start a new game in the most current version to properly check if achievements are working or not. A game started in a version where achievements were broken will always have broken achievements.

And what about changing versions when the achievments did work? They do work in 1.6.1 fix or not?
 

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Then you don't remember older Paradox games. I've been here since EU2 and, oh boy, in the good old times it was a given for a game to be unplayable for weeks or months after release. The company QA is miles better now.

If you're talking unplayable as in "can-launch-the-game" then sure, maybe, but otherwise I disagree. I've been waiting over 12 months now for the game to be playable (in a state worth playing, where all the core gameplay features basically work), and unless I missed some brief window of opportunity somewhere it hasn't happened. There has always been something horribly broken, and usually several.

Maybe your definition of unplayable is different, but I can't play the game when I have no idea whether basic gameplay functions are even working.

If I win a war is it because I did something well, or did my enemy just use one of the approximately third of available weapons that have been useless since launch? (Missiles, fighters and bombers)

Is my empire thriving, or is it just that all the AIs have terraformed their planets into inhospitable (to them) wastelands for no reason?

All my pops are shifting to another ethic, is it because of something I'm doing or is it just that "Governing ethics attraction" is broke and does nothing?

I started after EU2 admittedly, but none of the many other Paradox games I've played have been quite this bad.

Is there a patch to roll back to that works?