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How much of an impact do you think the fighters will have? Do they typically carry munitions that can harm ships of the size you see deployed against you or are they simply there to screen for inbound Prix fighters?

Each fighter carries three anti-ship missiles. Sixty fighters... 180 missiles in total. If only we can get them into engagement range.

Just when everything looks darkest, is there a slim ray of hope? Every incoming missile salvo so far has been a salvo of four size-4 missiles... usually in pairs of salvos, meaning eight incoming missiles in each wave.

... but this last salvo is a pair of single missiles, not a pair of four-missile salvos. Are the five closest Prix ships nearly out of ammo?
 

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Scouts should not be a priority right now.

I'm still advocating turning up a few more reptiles and using missiles probes for deep recon.

EDIT: If they are we can expect them to turn back and make for home. Which granted may give us a breathing space, but still.
 

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They might survive if the Prix haven't detected them yet. Or if they have, they might lose track of them while rest of our fleet speed bumps the Prix.

Bump? Surely you mean full speed ramming! It would give us good indication of how strong these enemies' shield and armour are!
 

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Each fighter carries three anti-ship missiles. Sixty fighters... 180 missiles in total. If only we can get them into engagement range.

Just when everything looks darkest, is there a slim ray of hope? Every incoming missile salvo so far has been a salvo of four size-4 missiles... usually in pairs of salvos.

... but this last salvo is a pair of single missiles, not a pair of four-missile salvos. Are the five closest Prix ships nearly out of ammo?

We should know if they change course for rearming (assuming they can)
 

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Could this be the break we needed?!

And if they turn to rearm, then what are our chances of making it back to the jump point?

I don't like our chances against the Prix if they manage to rearm (since they are faster than us, it's 99% likely they'd be rearmed before we could fight them).
 

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Except that there are these other four prix coming up behind the first five.

Still it may be the break we need to turn this into a slow retreat of sort - leave the shieldship and perhaps Agincourt behind, and withdraw the rest of the fleet. Then when they catch up to us detach the new rearguard to try and delay them a few rounds...

Except that all those "speed bumps" will buy us a few minutes at most, and we need *days* to make it back to the jump point.
 

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Ah, les braves gens !

C'est magnifique, mais ce n'est pas la guerre.

Unfortunately, at this point, I don't think there's much that can be done. They can't be outrun, so the only hope is to get into range and hope that they don't have the armor to withstand our weight of fire. That's doubly-true if the reinforcing ships can keep us busy while the first wave rearms and returns to the fight. I wonder, how long does rearmament usually take?
 

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Perhaps a possibility. But even then, we're days from the jump point, aren't we?

It's unlikely we'll make it to the point where we can escape.

And remember...as far as we suspect, only two of these prix have been firing at us. So three of them may either be energy weapon vessels, or be armed with loads of not-yet-fired heavier, shorter range missiles.
 

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2. The shieldship have worked as advertised for a while, but we now know the enemy switch targets after a while when their salvoes go nowhere. Can we use this to our advantage or refine the concept?

Maybe they could stir some 30° away for attempting to drawn the Prix fire towards them again ?
 

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Each fighter carries three anti-ship missiles. Sixty fighters... 180 missiles in total. If only we can get them into engagement range.

Just when everything looks darkest, is there a slim ray of hope? Every incoming missile salvo so far has been a salvo of four size-4 missiles... usually in pairs of salvos, meaning eight incoming missiles in each wave.

... but this last salvo is a pair of single missiles, not a pair of four-missile salvos. Are the five closest Prix ships nearly out of ammo?

A big ray.
 

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Meanwhile on the Red Dwarf, Captain Daemon was following the proceedings on a big flat screen.

"Not good" he muttered. And then he bagan the wonder since when did the Red Dwarf have the technology to have a direct feed several star system's away. Was Daemon sitting on a potential goldmine? Oh well doesn't matter.
 

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We should know if they change course for rearming (assuming they can)

If the missile ships are formated with Beam ships... or if they also have Beams... they might not break off the action. Certainly they are still holding course, and they must have fired that pair of singles at least twenty minutes ago. It had to run-in over 30 million km, after all.

How long until we get in range to open up on those Prix?

Another 14 or 15 million km.
 

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So we'll know if/when there is (no) other salvo.

Do we have any reasonable expectations as to what Prix beam weapons may have for range? Can our own missiles be in range before that? (Assuming, of course, they're not just using shorter-range missiles)