access to azores

[Wildcat_PL]

Historicaly germans were allowed to base their uboots in the azores up to 1942. later on portugeese dictator decided that he has more to gain with allies, broke the deal with germans, and allow UK ASW air forces to this base. In game even with +200 relations both UK and GER is unable to ask for military access.

Now I can ask devs to change this somehow but I want to know the community opinion on this. In my games I usually either ally with portugal pre-war or DoW them and occupy azores and cap verde.

 

[bestmajor]

cool!

military acces to harbours only, or a certain province for ships only!

 

[Wildcat_PL]

This would be rather hard and unnecessary to do. Just make portugeese AI accept when Germany asks for military access when they have good relations, and Portugal is Pathernal Authority.

 

[Misantropia]

or via event... to avoid protugam giving military aces to bulgaria (both autocratic)

 

[DarkLight]

Historicaly germans were allowed to base their uboots in the azores up to 1942.

I wasn't aware that German U-Boats were actually based in the Azores and conducted operations from there. Do you have a link for that?

 

[Wildcat_PL]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Azores

check the section titled "During World War II"

in game terms refueling would be unfortunetly basing.

 

[DarkLight]

in game terms refueling would be un...his does not constitute basing in game terms.

 

[BlueWarrior]

I disagree. Portugal was neutral. Under international law during WWII, a beligerent warship could visit a neutral port and, within 72 hours, replenish, refuel and make necessary repairs. But, at the end of 72 hours the ship had to either depart or be interned. This does not constitute basing in game terms.

Exactly - same as the Graf Spee at Montivedo. It wasn't based there - just hid out until its time was up.

 

[Titan79]

I disagree. Portugal was neutral. Under international law during WWII, a beligerent warship could visit a neutral port and, within 72 hours, replenish, refuel and make necessary repairs. But, at the end of 72 hours the ship had to either depart or be interned. This does not constitute basing in game terms.

Right. And, moreover, rebasing in the Azores would give German U-Boote a far too long range.
Level IV subs, though, should have their convoy patrolling range increased to be able to reach US East coast as well as the Caribbean and Gulf of Mexico, as historically happened.

 

[BlueWarrior]

Right. And, moreover, rebasing in the Azores would give German U-Boote a far too long range.
Level IV subs, though, should have their convoy patrolling range increased to be able to reach US East coast as well as the Caribbean and Gulf of Mexico, as historically happened.

I'm pretty sure you can reach most of these areas - using the convoy raiding mission - when based in Brest/Bordeaux.

 

[Wildcat_PL]

Ok, so I guess thats a no, thats what I wanted to hear.