"Accepting would destabilize..." ?

[Kapitalisti]

As you can see here, I have a golden opportunity to cut that horrible teal(?) blob to size since Austria is busy but I'd sorely need Castile on my side to even the odds. But for some reason they have that -50 malus saying that it would destabilize them. They don't have a truce with Provence nor military access or royal marriages (they only have marriages with me and Portugal). Now I can understand why Portugal isn't up for a war, they're over 2000 in debt and have rebels in their Moroccan provinces. But damn these lazy Castilians

On a side note, the French area is delightfully chaotic in this patch. The Big Blue Blob was pretty much castrated when I took a few provinces from it, including Paris, and forced it to release some states. Then it was replaced by the Red Blob of Burgundy until it was eaten alive by Provence.

 

[HerrStarr]

It likely means they have a truce that would be broken if they accepted. You probably wouldnt answer an AI CtA under these conditions, would you?

He said he checked.

 

[Vaximillian]

It likely means they have a truce that would be broken if they accepted. You probably wouldnt answer an AI CtA under these conditions, would you?

Isn't existing truce a different condition and a hard block, i. e. −1000?

 

[Wizzington]

You're calling them against a country they want to be friends with and have a RM with...

 

[BaZERGer]

If the nation you're attacking has an opinion of over 100 towards someone, that nation will lose 1 stability from joining an offensive war against them.

 

[HerrStarr]

I read somewhere that going to war with a nation that have 100+ relation give -1 stabhit...

[edit] Sorry ninja [/edit]

 

[Kapitalisti]

Yep, dropped the ball on that one. Probably a RM or Military access with one of the parties on the other side.

Nope, like I said: Castile only has royal marriages with me and Portugal. And only grants military access to me and has military access through me and Portugal. There's nothing to tie it to any of the opposing countries.

 

[Vaximillian]

If the nation you're attacking has an opinion of over 100 towards someone, that nation will lose 1 stability from joining an offensive war against them.

The same applies to you: if you have 100+ opinion towards someone, you'll get stabhit.

Nope, like I said: Castile only has royal marriages with me and Portugal. And only grants military access to me and has military access through me and Portugal. There's nothing to tie it to any of the opposing countries.

It is because 100+ opinion of Castile towards Provence.

 

[Kapitalisti]

Must be that then. Kinda annoying. Well screw the continent then.

 

[Novacaine]

The modifier is 50 per point of stab hit if the nation would join. The same way everybody loses stab when declaring war in some conditions.

Military Access, breaking truce, having military access...

 

[Kapitalisti]

The modifier is 50 per point of stab hit if the nation would join. The same way everybody loses stab when declaring war in some conditions.

Military Access, breaking truce, having military access...

Yes, but truce breaking has its own, much larger, modifier that pretty much makes it impossible for them to join.

 

[BaZERGer]

The same applies to you: if you have 100+ opinion towards someone, you'll get stabhit.

Doesn't happen to me, 122 relations, no stability loss.

 

[frmwrk123]

It should happen though. In the war declaration window should be a text saying -1 Good relations (or something similar). Could you show us the lower part of that DoW window and the diplo screen of Provence (important part is Provence's opinion of you not vice versa). If the opinion of Provence is less than 100 towards you but more than 100 towards Castile, then you have your explanation.

 

[beckermt]

Doesn't happen to me, 122 relations, no stability loss.

Had you happened to have completed the Diplomatic Ideas?

@OP: Please check Castille's opinion of Provence and vice-versa, so we can put this issue to rest.

 

[BaZERGer]

Had you happened to have completed the Diplomatic Ideas?

@OP: Please check Castille's opinion of Provence and vice-versa, so we can put this issue to rest.

Nope, i started a new game, disabled the AI, raised relations to max and sent them a gift, then tag swapped to the other country, made a claim, and declared war with it, no stability loss.

I've never had cases where my opinion of the nation causes stability loss from it, it's only their opinion of me that matters.

 

[Umega]

I looked into this myself, switched to the country I wanted to CTA and looked at his declare war interface. It seems that over +100 relations would give them stab hit. Really annoying.

 

[Luhood]

Must be that then. Kinda annoying. Well screw the continent then.

You're playing England. That is the only reasonable response. Always.

 

[Kapitalisti]

@OP: Please check Castille's opinion of Provence and vice-versa, so we can put this issue to rest.

Yeah, Provence has an opinion of 117 and Castille 93 (of each other). Damn those weasels. No way in hell I'm helping Castille with anything anymore.

EDIT: well darn, I did join in their war some years later. Against Aragon. Which is my rival AND allied with Provence... Sadly while I've managed to largely crush Provence, Castille is getting murdered by Aragon and Hungary.

 

[bbqftw]

With high enough levels of trust you can get the AI to stabhit themselves when joining wars.