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Christiane

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I played Italy and USA. When i create an expeditionnary corps for north Africa the USA send it but the corps do nothings in Africas even if i create a front and objectives line. I don't know what they do. For India the country was invaded by germany without a navy. Absolutely stupid. I can't also focus on any army or country. It should be simple because it have it in EU4. The managing of any army is very hard and create objective is clear as dark night. You can't know what you do and the programm look like it choose where your army go....
 
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Could you elaborate on some of your problems?

Yes. HOI was always a game where you can manage the world war 2 in differents aspects. But the new version you don't have this possibility for the army and the managing of all sea aspect are very poor. Even if Great britain have absolute control of the sea the german go every where they want and so much time, without a navy. I was also so surprise to see italian gone in Le Caire. Their main problem in WW2 was to cross the sea because the english fleet was there and had better equipement. You can't also give an objective clear to any marechal. By example i can't told to McArthur to take japan. And th AI won't understand the rules of war mouvement. Remeber one things. This game is a grand strategy. Strategy is where we will apply the forces. Tactics is how you will do it. For example Eisenhower chose where he will land in France. But is Bradley who done the fastest movement in WW2 near Cherbourg. With this version we can't secure the sea way, we can't give a general clear objectives for ground army, it's very difficult to assign air army to a mission and we can't count on AI to manage details of the ground. All the rest of the game is very interesting and addictive but the aspect i mentionned make the game a luck game even if you plan all the economy. You have absolutely no control on army at all.
 
The battle plan is confusing and complicated when you first get a hand on it, but after some experience it becomes much more handy and I have no problem with it now.
 
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Done all the time but nothings happend. Computer just return "no division for this plan" That's mean 14 division assigned doesn't count...


Sounds like your divisions weren’t actually assigned to the order. Control+left clicking the order will assure they are assigned. Often happens when you assign an order, but the units already have one, so none get assigned to the new order. The order should say how many divisions are assigned to it, or be translucent if none are.

I played Italy and USA. When i create an expeditionnary corps for north Africa the USA send it but the corps do nothings in Africas even if i create a front and objectives line. I don't know what they do. For India the country was invaded by germany without a navy. Absolutely stupid. I can't also focus on any army or country. It should be simple because it have it in EU4. The managing of any army is very hard and create objective is clear as dark night. You can't know what you do and the programm look like it choose where your army go....


As for India, Germany/Italy would need regional naval superiority to invade unless they are going all the way through the Soviets/Middle East. As for if ai is smart enough to contest those sea zones after Sues falls is another story. Regardless, the battle planner, once you understand how to work with it, helps a lot managing multiple fronts (it was a nightmare in HOI III).
 
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None of the problems being described make sense to me. They sound like either someone hasn't used the interface properly, or that there is some problem involving military access or console commands.

I'd recommend some tutorial videos first to eliminate some of the most obvious problems that can occur with novice players.
 
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I play HOI for ten years now and i still can't do some things who are mandotary. (I'm french so maybe my english is worst) I just played Canada. When i build a fleet with the fleet editor, the computer send all builded ship on a reserve instead to the fleet. Can you imagine Midway battle with all ship in reserve at the port? The computer do it... And i tried for one hour to fusion the fleet in the pacific and computer don't do it. Another strange things. With Canada you can developp aeronaval...only if you don't developp aircraft carrier...Fantastic!
 
The battle plan is confusing and complicated when you first get a hand on it, but after some experience it becomes much more handy and I have no problem with it now.

I'm glad for you. Me i have problem. Maybe because since 1998 i play all the WW 2 games? I can fix a general objective with battle plan if i have a frontier. I can't use for amphibious invasion because the frontier is not valid and i must use a friendly port....Forget D-Day or Dragon operation. I cannot also prepare the neutralisation of Rabaul by isolation in the salomon even if it's what the USA done in WW 2. Managing the country is perfect. Managing the step of any conquest is very poor. You have no control to the steps you must get before and the navy management is more than poor.
 
I'm glad for you. Me i have problem. Maybe because since 1998 i play all the WW 2 games? I can fix a general objective with battle plan if i have a frontier. I can't use for amphibious invasion because the frontier is not valid and i must use a friendly port....Forget D-Day or Dragon operation. I cannot also prepare the neutralisation of Rabaul by isolation in the salomon even if it's what the USA done in WW 2. Managing the country is perfect. Managing the step of any conquest is very poor. You have no control to the steps you must get before and the navy management is more than poor.
@Christiane ,

Please watch the Beginners Guide Tutorial - Battleplans in its entirety. It covers naval invasions, too. Then read the entire wiki Naval invasion section as there are certain requirements to launching a successful naval invasion such as Naval supremacy. Then try launching a naval invasion. If you are still having trouble after all of that, then please post some screenshots as the forum members will be more able to further narrow the cause of your problem.
 
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I done all that. And didn't work. I tried also put a plan in the garbage and never worked. In OOB i can changew my plan in fonction of the reaction of the AI and i have good succes with japanese, italian, red army and of course pacific fleet. I still cannot give specific order. By exampled i never success to invade guadalcanal. (not found on the map because the mini map exist only in EU4) so i cannot make a step there and build next move from guadalcanal. I have no control and i can't build the forces to do the next step...The management of the army is weak and the navy is more than poor. I don't know if you simulate the campaign of north atlantic but i done and it's very hard to intercept convoy for the german because UK have a lot of ship. In the pacific the USA had more ship than Japan so they was able to struggle the economy of Japan just with submarine but not in Europe and the italian navy can't challenge the UK fleet. HOI doesn't care of that. And still unable to merge to canadian fleet in the pacific even if i sent them at the same base. Computer want a reserve on his own mind.
 
It’s a little hard to make out exactly what you’re asking, but I will try to respond to your questions.

I tried also put a plan in the garbage and never worked.

Left click on the trash can then left click on the order you want to delete. It’s not a drag and drop system.


By exampled i never success to invade guadalcanal. (not found on the map because the mini map exist only in EU4) so i cannot make a step there and build next move from guadalcanal. I have no control and i can't build the forces to do the next step...

Guadalcanal is in the Solomon Islands and is controlled by Australia at game start. It is East of New Guinea if you are looking for it. Of course, you’ll only have to recapture it if the Japanese actually take it, which is far from a given.

It’s possible to plan a follow-up order after a naval invasion, not sure if this can be another naval invasion or not, though should be easy enough to set up once the island is retaken. You won’t be able to build buildings at Guadalcanal since it will be liberated to Australia, not you. You will still be able to launch naval invasions from it though.

I don't know if you simulate the campaign of north atlantic but i done and it's very hard to intercept convoy for the german because UK have a lot of ship. In the pacific the USA had more ship than Japan so they was able to struggle the economy of Japan just with submarine but not in Europe and the italian navy can't challenge the UK fleet. HOI doesn't care of that.

North Atlantic campaign is simulated through Germany using U-Boats (submarines) and the UK trying to counter them with destroyers/cruisers/aircraft. The Germans use convoy raiding mission and the Allies Convoy Escort/patrol/strike force. Any German convoys coming from out of Europe should be easy for the Royal Navy, or even Royal Canadian Navy to blow out of the water with surface ships or submarines, as they will likely be unprotected.

The USA does have more ships and dockyards than Japan in game and will try to (and very much can in player hands) strangle Japanese trade and convoys with submarine warfare.

The Italian Navy couldn’t really challenge the Royal Navy, even with it spread out, in actual WWII either. It could get a few convoys through with proper air support and threaten sneaking past British assets for naval invasions, but not really a 1v1 fight by any means.

And still unable to merge to canadian fleet in the pacific even if i sent them at the same base.

Sent to, but were they actually at the same base? Also, for ease, you can right click with the ships selected to assign them to another navy/task force, and they should travel to it/its mission.

Computer want a reserve on his own mind.

On naval production que instead of auto-assign, which will add ships to reserve, you can left click and it will give you the option where to assign new ships, including directly to fleets.
 
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By exampled i never success to invade guadalcanal. (not found on the map because the mini map exist only in EU4)...

HOI4 has a mini-map, but it requires Waking the Tiger DLC (see Dev Diary).

HOI4 has a Search (Find) button. See Map mode interface hotkeys and example below.
  1. Click on the magnifying glass to open the search window.
  2. Type the first few letters into the search window of the location you are trying to find.
  3. Click on the item to go to that location.

Search.png
 
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It’s a little hard to make out exactly what you’re asking, but I will try to respond to your questions.



Left click on the trash can then left click on the order you want to delete. It’s not a drag and drop system.

I tried in north Africa and didn't work. I will try it again with USA. I didn't use drag and drop. Anyway drag and drop is so easy to use and make mistake (Paradox is genius for that)


Guadalcanal is in the Solomon Islands and is controlled by Australia at game start. It is East of New Guinea if you are looking for it. Of course, you’ll only have to recapture it if the Japanese actually take it, which is far from a given.

Found Guadalcanal. It was the main base for USA with Australia. The distance plane can afford at this era is very limted. It's why USA planned a step by step from iland to iland. No choice at the moment of WW2

It’s possible to plan a follow-up order after a naval invasion, not sure if this can be another naval invasion or not, though should be easy enough to set up once the island is retaken. You won’t be able to build buildings at Guadalcanal since it will be liberated to Australia, not you. You will still be able to launch naval invasions from it though.

With better control of army and the task force we should do it. After all you control a sez area when you can choose who go in this area. Even like a land province. But you need suitable naval base...

North Atlantic campaign is simulated through Germany using U-Boats (submarines) and the UK trying to counter them with destroyers/cruisers/aircraft. The Germans use convoy raiding mission and the Allies Convoy Escort/patrol/strike force. Any German convoys coming from out of Europe should be easyfor the Royal Navy, or even Royal Canadian Navy to blow out of the water with surface ships or submarines, as they will likely be unprotected.

AI in HOI4 (and previous at all) don't know that. I think it can be improved. If we can assign a task to a fleet and very clear like : Chose one of the following task, protect , control, attack, defend and after the specification of the area. AI should handle the rest and claim for renforcement (This pattern can be use for ground) That will permit to a fleet to help another if her sector is quiet and vive versa.

The USA does have more ships and dockyards than Japan in game and will try to (and very much can in player hands) strangle Japanese trade and convoys with submarine warfare.

The way to give this order is not clear.

The Italian Navy couldn’t really challenge the Royal Navy, even with it spread out, in actual WWII either. It could get a few convoys through with proper air support and threaten sneaking past British assets for naval invasions, but not really a 1v1 fight by any means.

In OOB i had to invade Malta to permit the passage of italian convoy. It's virtually impossible In HOI it"'s so easy and simple...Should be one chance on ten for success but is not the case.

Sent to, but were they actually at the same base? Also, for ease, you can right click with the ships selected to assign them to another navy/task force, and they should travel to it/it’s mission.

For Canadian Fleet they was at the same base but no merging worked

On naval production que instead of auto-assign, which will add ships to reserve, you can left click and it will give you the option where to assign new ships, including directly to fleets.

I tried that. When i tried to assign the new window close and teh ship is send at wrong place...

HOI4 is very good game. It need some improvement to have fun to play. (just a little)
 
I tried again USA. In the pacific even if y have a large fleet (more than 2) when USA come in war with Japan, those fleet do nothings and i can't give any order to control sea area. So Japan can do everything he want. That really need improvement. Instead i was absolutely unablle to split fleet except in random maneer.