About the oil of the Iraq-Give France a historically accurate piece of the oilcake like it had (and for a bit better balancing)

[Crazy-Krauthead]

I think Fuel was added to provide realism for the Axis powers because they basically lacked fuel. But for France it doesn't make sense.

I think France had their own oil industry so that's basically the issue. They should have more then enough oil and fuel to get thru to 1940.

Aye, they had small oil fields arround Paris and South of Bordeaux -like Germany, Austria, Hungary or Poland-and founded short after ww1 a company for searching and extracting oil in the african colonies, but that wasnt very successfull before ww2. Anyway the french part of the iraq Oil still made nearly the half of the french oil (40% in 1937).

Anyway they were still importing over the half of their oil from USA, Venezuela and Rumania. So France was still an oil importing country,but not as critical as Germany or italy.

And I agree, the axis should have less access to international Oil, dont forget: The USA punished them with an oil embargo for their agressive expansion. In the game we cant feel anything of it. So its a good way to give the "neutral" oil fields to the USA and the brits, as their companies were extracting the oil in neutral states. The Devs just shouldnt complete forget France, cuz it wasnt under oil embargo and had some oil companies in "neutral" states too

 

[Crazy-Krauthead]

Some fascinating stuff honestly. They sort of merged but not quite and political forces in both countries kept them from truly merging, well, until 2005 that is. I tip my hat to you, sir, and I stand corrected.

The split is a bit tedious but Royal Dutch was responsible for the production and manufacture while Shell was responsible for transportation and storage. What is likely the best way about splitting it is along company lines. At the time of the merger, Royal Dutch received 60% of stock and Shell received 40%. Not that the Dutch particularly need the oil as Curacao takes care of their needs. If we can get Persia straightened out as well, Britain would be in good shape as well.

If this was Victoria 2 economy i would agree, but as I said in the simple hoi4 economy we cant exept such complex structures like Shell had.

Anyway in this case the british had the control over iraq, although iraq was official "independent". So its fine giving the brits here the advantage and not the US or the Netherlands. Just giving a small part to the frenchies would

A) help France and make it more interesting to play.

B) be more histrically accurate

and

c) Make it more challenging for Germany.

I mean do u remember the first years of HOI4? How often lacked the brits and the frenchies in multiplayergames oil much harder than the axis did? How often we saw an invasion of GB, cuz neither the brits nor the frenchies got enough oil to use all their naval, motorized and airborne forces?

Germany often had less problems, cuz of their focus and tech tree advantage for refineries.

So it is a balancing in the right direction if u ask me, when we give Francea small part of the iraq oil.

 

[Crazy-Krauthead]

I think Fuel was added to provide realism for the Axis powers because they basically lacked fuel. But for France it doesn't make sense.

I think France had their own oil industry so that's basically the issue. They should have more then enough oil and fuel to get thru to 1940.

Aye, although France still imported over 50% of their oil, they should have a basic oil industry.

Anyway, always when i play Germany i dont get any fuelproblems as long as I control the rumanian oil.

Thx to all the refinaries the fuelproduction is so effective, that my silos are completely filled most of the time.

As France i struggle all the time to get enough fuel for my navy, tanks, air units a.s.o.

But in history it was Germany which struggled cuz of lack of recources in both world wars, not France.

 

[Ketchup & friends]

This will be implemented in a Middle East DLC along with a focus tree for Iraq.
Perhaps next summer?

 

[Crazy-Krauthead]

This will be implemented in a Middle East DLC along with a focus tree for Iraq.
Perhaps next summer?

No clue, but they changed the iraq oil with the Bosporus DLC to become british