He said, they rushed it and they shouldn't. Do you want the full logs of their meetings, JIRA issues and etc? Cause you are not entitled to such information.
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I can assure you, they will fix it. The game and community are way too valuable for Paradox. But for now, apology accepted , update given, all we can do is move on and hope for better future. And ofc not to label this as female behaviour. You know the good things in life.
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This is the third or fourth apology in the past several years along with promises that have yet to be fulfilled. I'm not sure why you have so much confidence.
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Thank you for your sincere apology. I still remember the bad old days when my rule of thumb was that a new game from PDX was playable after one expansion and two patches. Now that you have grown so much (well deserved!) I hope to not relive them again.
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Because this time it had major backlash. MAJOR. So they will listen.
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this is why EUIV can't have nice threads. and it's all on individual posters. if you're unable to hold a conversation like an adult, then don't try.
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Am very glad to hear this, at this point it's the absolutely correct route to take in my opinion. I've loved the game for years and would prefer to see it in the best possible state while it's still in active development.
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GTAV and Minecraft are the same or older than EU4, but I overall agree, the game needs to focus on "favouring" regions before stop any future development.
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I haven't played EU IV in over a year and rarely post here, but I wanted to comment on this.
This is good. I have a feeling that a lot of us weren't even vested in the apology so much as we just really wanted clarification on what happened behind the scenes that led to this. I think the approach of slowing down new content to fix bugs and tech debt is a good one, as I feel that the botched Leviathan release has demonstrated that, at this point, the tech debt is so severe as to render implementing new features nearly impossible. In general, I've observed that Paradox seems to be following a policy of slowing down new content across the board, which is probably for the best. This isn't an online live service game where player numbers will drop if new content doesn't come out every 3 months; better to take your time. Hopefully this will also improve the atmosphere on the forums. While criticism of the Leviathan release and moutning technical issues in general was definitely warranted, some of the responses did definitely go over the line into being rude and toxic, both to the developers and to other forum members.
This is good. I have a feeling that a lot of us weren't even vested in the apology so much as we just really wanted clarification on what happened behind the scenes that led to this. I think the approach of slowing down new content to fix bugs and tech debt is a good one, as I feel that the botched Leviathan release has demonstrated that, at this point, the tech debt is so severe as to render implementing new features nearly impossible. In general, I've observed that Paradox seems to be following a policy of slowing down new content across the board, which is probably for the best. This isn't an online live service game where player numbers will drop if new content doesn't come out every 3 months; better to take your time. Hopefully this will also improve the atmosphere on the forums. While criticism of the Leviathan release and moutning technical issues in general was definitely warranted, some of the responses did definitely go over the line into being rude and toxic, both to the developers and to other forum members.
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Does this mean that we are unlikely to ever see improvements to the Pacific Northwest? Or to South America, or Subsaharan Africa, or to any of the other sad, neglected portions of the globe?
Disappointing that you guys didn't own up to your mistakes earlier but better late then never. Hope to see gameplay, balance and performance fixes/tweaks being made and the best of luck with doing so.
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Thank you, Johan and Team. The vast majority of us appreciate that this is hard work, and we'll look forward to the patches. Thank you too for directly addressing and owning up to the fact that quality has suffered for some time now. Here's to hoping for a stable and fun version of EU4 to be available soon, and for things to only improve in the future!
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Thanks for writing what seems like a genuinely meant apology. I have hope that the backlash you guys got will ultimately lead to better releases down the road.
I'm looking forward to the game being polished in the short term (especially the return of force vassalization), as well as more content from the team in the future. Good luck to you and the rest of the team!
I'm looking forward to the game being polished in the short term (especially the return of force vassalization
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From what's been said I think that Johan is saying that the plan for EU4 had originally been to continue releasing expansions while at the same time fixing bugs and improving mechanics, then, once they had released all of the DLC they wanted to make, to do a final round of fixes to leave EU4 in the best state possible before moving on to EU5. It sounds like the plan is now to do that in the opposite order - to try and get all of the game's mechanics in a good place before moving on to the last pieces of DLC content. I could be misinterpreting things but that does sound like that is their current intent at least.
I do think that ensuring that the entirety of the map is in a good place in terms of quality and content before finishing up with EU4 is the right call, given that EU5 will at least partially be built off the back of EU4, so having stuff like mission trees already in place will help with future development. I'm hoping the art, map and content teams will be working on that in the background this year while the rest of the devs focus on bugfixes.
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I may be speaking for myself here, but I'm wondering how this release was allowed to happen. We can say "new studio" and whatever excuses we want, but at the end of the day, we, the customers, want some sort of explanation. We've put thousands of hours and hundreds of dollars/Euros/whatever into a game we love only to have repeating mistakes at release. Why are we still having this issue, and why was Leviathan so game-breakingly bad at release?
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Not if you know what you are doing and buy from LEGITIMATE key resellers. Which is what I do. But I agree, sites like G 2 A are pretty scummy and should be shut down asap
Thanks for the update. Paradox is one of the few studio's I trust to deliver what they promised, even if it takes a couple of patches. I really like the idea behind some of the mechanics put in the latest DLC and hope to see most of them as they were intended later this week.
Keep up the good work.
Keep up the good work.
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