Aberration and Aberration II

[MattyG]

When I received permission from the Archduke to take oven the then-dormant Aberration mod, I was joined soon after by Incompetant and we discussed where we should take the mod, and decided that it ought to be a seperate entity. We decided on Aberration II, so that the connection was there and it made sense in the forum we were in as well.

Nikolai and Bykiahiakim voiced privately their preference for the mod they worked on Aberration, whilst wishing me well with our new project. That confirmed for me the importance of having it be seen as a different mod, not just a continuation of Aberration. So I have always conceived of it that there would be two mods, Aberration and Aberration II.

The two mods share a number of common features and design principles but differ markedly in others. Few of the files (events, leaders, monarchs, province.csv etc) In Aberration II bear much resemblence to Aberration, and I think this is a process that will continue as we move 'eastwards' re-aberrating.

If the Archduke wants to pick up Aberration again and work on it and have others join him, that's cool. It's his mod, his time, his life. If he wants to add to Aberration II, then he's welcome to contribute too. And the EU2 world will be richer for it.

Take care.

Matty

 

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ahh. i understand now.

 

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So, how do we know whether threads refer to AbeII or AbeI? Shouldn't there be two comepletely seperate Directories?

 

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Abe 1 - [1] blah blah thread name
abe 2 - [2] blah blah thread name

although what is the point exactly? who is going to develop abe 1 and why. where is the manpower for that. let the sleeping dogs lie

 

[MattyG]

Abe 1 - [1] blah blah thread name
abe 2 - [2] blah blah thread name

although what is the point exactly? who is going to develop abe 1 and why. where is the manpower for that. let the sleeping dogs lie

Tarakan, have a read of the other recent threads first ...

The Archduke is back and is looking to continue developing Aberration and upgrade it to one of the new maps. That's what precipitated this thread, so that people understood that I felt there was a difference between the two mods.

If the Archduke and anyone else wants to work on Aberration (I), more power to them. But, yes, it will be important that threads are clearly labelled. I would be very sad if we were evicted from this meta-thread because of a perceived clash.

 

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ok so i read the other threads and it seems to me that this whole thing was percepitated by Archduke's proposal to make use of new maps for Aberation and
"merging" of Aberation and Aberation 2. The reason there is Abe 2 was explained earlier here and it seems that the whole mess was simplly a lack of this knowledge on the agreement between you "MattyG and Incompetent" and "Nikolai and Bykiahiakim" on the part of Archduke.

So Archduke. Without diturbing the new map and all that. Woudl you be interested in adding effort to Abe 2?

South and East Asia need abberation. So do other places. While me personally would be happy with the new map (I stated I like My Map because of fewer siberian provinces) Abe has too few coders as is to create 2 separate similar progects in parallel

 

[MattyG]

ok so i read the other threads and it seems to me that this whole thing was percepitated by Archduke's proposal to make use of new maps for Aberation and
"merging" of Aberation and Aberation 2. The reason there is Abe 2 was explained earlier here and it seems that the whole mess was simplly a lack of this knowledge on the agreement between you "MattyG and Incompetent" and "Nikolai and Bykiahiakim" on the part of Archduke.

So Archduke. Without diturbing the new map and all that. Woudl you be interested in adding effort to Abe 2?

South and East Asia need abberation. So do other places. While me personally would be happy with the new map (I stated I like My Map because of fewer siberian provinces) Abe has too few coders as is to create 2 separate similar progects in parallel

While I cannot speak for the Archduke, my sense is that he has a strong preference for the style and direction of Aberration I, and that by merging the two he meant to borrow those parts of Aberration II that he felt would fit for Aberration I.

I think that the original Aberration had a lot more human resources than Aberation II. A glance through the file credits reveals some of the big names in EU2 (and other Paradox games). Assuming he could bring back those same modders the Archduke would have a sizeable creative team, and I wish him well. That said, I'd prfer it if he wanted to contribute the Aberration II, of course ...

 

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Abe 1 - [1] blah blah thread name
abe 2 - [2] blah blah thread name

Tarakan has the answer here.


Can I ask that the titles of any new threads include the label "Abe I" or "Abe II" so I know which version of Aberration they are intended for?

I am getting confused as to which version these threads apply to. I presume it's all AbeII at the moment, but it's just not clear to me.

Can creators of existing threads add the label? (note, I don't know if this is technically possible...)

 

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Tarakan has the answer here.


Can I ask that the titles of any new threads include the label "Abe I" or "Abe II" so I know which version of Aberration they are intended for?

I am getting confused as to which version these threads apply to. I presume it's all AbeII at the moment, but it's just not clear to me.

Can creators of existing threads add the label? (note, I don't know if this is technically possible...)

I tried it is not possible. Most threads for the last 6 months or so relate to abe 2.

 

[Incompetent]

The only tidy solution would be if we could get our own (sub-)forum from the higher-ups, one in which MattyG and maybe other team members had moderator privileges. Alternatively we could get one of those nasty free forums off Proboards or something, though doing that might make it harder to get people to join in discussions. At the moment we're kind of squatters here - our takeover was justified when it looked like we were just patching up the original Aberration, but now we're making a separate mod we should probably look for a new home.

 

[MattyG]

The only tidy solution would be if we could get our own (sub-)forum from the higher-ups, one in which MattyG and maybe other team members had moderator privileges. Alternatively we could get one of those nasty free forums off Proboards or something, though doing that might make it harder to get people to join in discussions. At the moment we're kind of squatters here - our takeover was justified when it looked like we were just patching up the original Aberration, but now we're making a separate mod we should probably look for a new home.

I'm not actually convinced that there is a need for anything because:

1. I don't think the Archduke had any intention of 'taking over' the mod

2. I don't think his plans include forum work, just working on his old mod to polish it up and make it suitable with a new map

So, we'll just stay put for now. I think its all gonna be jus' fine.

 

[TheArchduke]

Hmm, MattyG, do you have ICQ or some other chat programm, would love to have a chat with you, please.


Your PM Inbox is full, so you know.

 

[MattyG]

Hmm, MattyG, do you have ICQ or some other chat programm, would love to have a chat with you, please.


Your PM Inbox is full, so you know.

The problem with the chat services is that I don't auto log on, so I rarely end up using them.

My email address is gibsonmathew@yahoo.ca

MattyG