The state art changing depending on the predominant industry in that state… That’s beautiful. Hats off to the art devs.
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The state art changing depending on the predominant industry in that state… That’s beautiful. Hats off to the art devs.
I’m surprised skilled workforce availability has never come up as a constraint in the aar (and in any of the preceding ones, if I recall correctly). The availability of mechanist and engineers should be a much bigger hurdle to Ethiopian modernization than access to coal and iron in my view.
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I think there’s a very small percentage of the population that meets the criteria to become machinists and engineers, but since Ethiopia has a large population and we’re not talking about a huge industry, there’s enough of them to fill the open positions.
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I think exactly this happened to coal mines in the Rift Valley region. Besides, I think Ethiopia mostly relies on the most primitive production methods which mostly employ uneducated laborers.
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It seems very cheesy that you get to annex the uprising natives. This essentially makes an uprising a desirable thing, since it allows you to move to next colony faster, and gives instant access to the population and resources of the colony. I mean, why even invest to colony institution, when you can just provoke natives to get the land.
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That’s how it probably works in game terms, but it’s a missed opportunity. Managing access to modern technology could have a lot of content linked to it. Like sending your students study abroad (paying some money and waiting for years). It could also generate some young IG leaders with unconventional ideologies. Alternatively you could invite foreign advisorsto kick-start your industry, which is faster and probably cheaper, but would make you dependent on good relations with a foreign power. And getting your industry to any scale with a steady supply of skilled engineers should require having a university. The same set of choices could be applied to getting any advanced productions methods for your barracks and naval bases (getting trained officers), with even greater impact on your internal politics and foreign affairs. This would also interact well with foreign investments, when we get those.
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You cant "just provoke them", Tension increases with colonies built so if anything you want to have high Colonial Affairs so that it doesnt decay.
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Does someone know how native uprisings works if there are several nations colonizing the same state at the same time ?
For example if the dev had decided to rush Kenya when he saw the UK starting to colonize it what would have happen when the uprising arised ?
Would both colonizers be at war with the natives or just the one who colonized the last province before the natives decided they had enough ?
For example if the dev had decided to rush Kenya when he saw the UK starting to colonize it what would have happen when the uprising arised ?
Would both colonizers be at war with the natives or just the one who colonized the last province before the natives decided they had enough ?
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Wiz said (might be Tolman too, not sure) tension increases once a colony grows so if you halt colonial growth it will stagnate too. Hence, my guess is that natives war against the last nation to occupy a province.
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That sounds like fun gameplay-wise but were foreign students a common occurrence back then? Or foreign advisors.
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I don't know about foreign students but foreign advisors were definitely a thing. Japan most notably employed a lot of them to reform its army and navy (among other things).
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I was referring to Japan experience there, though I’m sure there are other examples as well
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Yes, it's a thing. For a while after nationalisation Mexico couldn't operate much of its oil and mining industry because it was dependent on foreign experts, as on e example.
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Why was Finland so easily able to fall away from Russia in the AAR? Didn't she try to prevent it? I understand that if the union breaks, then yes, Finland becomes independent. But what happened here? Did Russia ignore the diplomatic game, or did the great powers come out on the side of fascist Finland? Even if this is so, I do not believe that everything would have ended so easily. My concern is that the AI on release will initially ignore the threat to their interests. In AAR about Ethiopia, France could easily defeat the rebellious natives and take full control of the colony, but this did not happen and she retreated. I would not like to see how the Dutch and British East Indies also easily gained independence as a result of random and non-random revolutions.
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Yeah I read many excuses but I dont think the AI is done yet.
France and the UK lose to a minore uprising that ethioia can easily defeat and Finland esasily breaks away from Russia? All in one game? As Biden would say "Come on, maaan".
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It is possible that France and the UK had some other more important stuff that a colony in Kenya. Also without Suez, I guess troops take a while to get there given an opportunity to the natives.
Etiopía was there and focused on it. I don’t see it as a bad thing depends on context. Of course it could also be what you say, as I said, depends on context.
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This. It was stated in the AAR that both France and Britain were otherwise distracted by more pressing matters/conflicts at the time of the uprising and so could not reinforce the colony. France specifically seemed to be facing a military coup at home, but dont think Britain was explained.
I would say based on the results though it would make sense for there to be a small colonial garrison expectation/requirement as part of any colonization effort though to have a colony to provide a token defense to start and buy reaction time (like Rorkes drift when Zulu's attacked, cue Sabaton song). Like 1 required barracks building, and with advanced enough PMs it could maybe late game have sufficient staying power to hold out for a while.
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I have a feeling it might be the result of the new military system. You don’t really seem to have a standing army. Just barracks that can be mobilized in times of high tension or war. A new fledgling colony wouldn’t have any barracks (or enough loyal pops to fill them even if they did). In reality, Britain/France would have probably dispatched a detachment of the regular army to a fort that would secure the colony. With the new system though, armies will usually start back in the homeland.
Even being generous and assuming Britain had troops in Yemen/South Africa and maybe India (if the ai would be inclined to even commit them before war broke out), that’s still some ways away. The game also assumes that the European military expedition to relieve the colony wouldn’t embark on a punitive expedition of revenge when they arrived to see it burnt to the ground, occupying additional land, as opposed to packing things up and heading home.
Even being generous and assuming Britain had troops in Yemen/South Africa and maybe India (if the ai would be inclined to even commit them before war broke out), that’s still some ways away. The game also assumes that the European military expedition to relieve the colony wouldn’t embark on a punitive expedition of revenge when they arrived to see it burnt to the ground, occupying additional land, as opposed to packing things up and heading home.
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It's not the first time that how overlord interact with their subjects especially during civil wars raised some questions. Let's hope we are just reading way too much into the situation and that there was a good reason as to why Russia either didn't interfere or was defeated by the revolt.
I really hope there won't be some memey way to become independent as a subject by willingly angering the most powerful interest groups of your country so the civil war is unwinnable and then joining the revoltee side.
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