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So, with the GG sale yesterday I successfully formed a fraction to press a friend into buying CK2 and explained it to him over skype in multiplayer. Yet one question of him struck me, why is there no mapmode showing you demesne and direct vassals? Especially since he was playing as Lower Lorraine, which contains quite a few de jure duchies and rivers, making that thick black line quite hard to see. Maybe make in this map-mode your own demesne green and vassals blue or green with stripes? It would clear up some things especially with these rather unknown and antique duchies.
 

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It is kind of frustrating when you're playing in a realm where you're a vassal of someone who also has a liege because the direct vassals map mode doesn't help you all that much. If you really want to see what you own directly, switching to the "diplomatic relations" map mode shows all your personal demesne in light green, but I don't find playing with this mode for any length of time particularly appealing.

EDIT: I typed "opinions" and meant "diplomatic relations". I'm too tired today :(
 
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Diplomatic map mode is essentially this. Your own demesne is light green, your vassals are dark green, allies are blue/violet, enemies are red. Some other stuff (rest of your realm if you're a vassal yourself?) is yellow. Everything else - grey.
 

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Diplomatic map mode is essentially this. Your own demesne is light green, your vassals are dark green, allies are blue/violet, enemies are red. Some other stuff (rest of your realm if you're a vassal yourself?) is yellow. Everything else - grey.
Even if your vassals hate your guts?
 

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Yellow in diplomatic map mode shows people you have casus belli against. Your liege will always be yellow because declaring war on them is pretty much always an option.

Confirm. This is my favorite mode to switch to later in the game when I have no idea what claims I can push. It's basically a "I feel like starting a war" mode. Sometimes you ever get a few nice surprises like finding a juicy excommunicated target.
 

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Diplo map mode seems to be the easiest way of figuring out if you might have a county claim on someone, too.

Confirm. This is my favorite mode to switch to later in the game when I have no idea what claims I can push. It's basically a "I feel like starting a war" mode. Sometimes you ever get a few nice surprises like finding a juicy excommunicated target.

My second cousin's wife inherited a strong claim? Well, I do have all these troops doing nothing, so...
 

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Diplo map mode seems to be the easiest way of figuring out if you might have a county claim on someone, too.



My second cousin's wife inherited a strong claim? Well, I do have all these troops doing nothing, so...

It's irritating how there's an icon for Weak Claims and another for De Jure Ducal Claims but nothing for Strong claims or De Jure Kingdom claims.