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Arizal

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As it is, there doesn't seem to be any real problem with murdering people beside being discovered, I mean consequences for the character who plots. I think the repugnance to do that for some virtuous characters (kind, honest, etc.) could be worse. The stressed trait should fire if they do something totally conflicting with their nature.

I would also like having traits with multiple levels, so that one could be more or less of one or the others. They could even collide like in the original CK and lead to difficult choices.
 

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It does indeed seem strange that traits conflicting with murder doesn't give problems. So is people not hating you for murdering them of their childs btw. All you get is a -50 penalty. They should be much more hostile towards you...
 

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sometimes the penalty is quite severe, other times it's not
For example, here's a failed assassination that hit me hard
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I've been a lot more cautious with assassinations ever since :)
At least I was still called 'The just' :p
 

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Ouch!