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I can imagine some ludditic persons actually born and raised in the past not wanting to sail in in the Great Western, seeing how advanced and liable to blow up it is, or something along those lines, but our friends are looking at a ship that isn't advanced enough. :D


Let's wait and see what this administration does, and then I'll decide whether I should throw my support behind Daniel Webter. I had a math teacher in sixth grade who was pretty cool but would make misbehavers copy out of Webster's dictionary. I was too young to know which Webster was which, but the next year the high school history teacher's kid had to copy, and apparantly came back the next day with the information that it was Noah, not Daniel, Webster that wrote the dictionary.
 

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Good update!

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Dark water filled ruts made by heavily-laden wagons and shadows lurked in recesses outside the reach of the pale morning light.

Minor nitpick:
I must admit though, that I was confused by the above sentence. The way it reads to me...the shadows made water-filled ruts?

I get the feeling that this should be two sentences...or two thoughts, or I'm missing something regarding the shadows.

That aside, you've inspired me to go to wikipedia for info on the 1840 election...I can't have you messing up my knowledge of history with this alt timeline now can I?

Now for the cheering section!
Go Frost Go! Make the evil empire! Destroy! Pillage! Burn! Make me despise my ancestors!

:D

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TheExecutor: I didn't have any problems with the sentence the first time I read it, but now I can definitely see the difficulty. I think this is the intent:

"Dark water filled the ruts, which were made by heavy-laden wagons. Shadows lurked in recesses..."

Director: I went to Wikipedia to get a better picture of the Great Western. At 200 feet, it's not that small a ship, now is it? Ronsend must either not have much seafaring experience, or the Knights Temporal are used to much more opulent means of transportation.

I'm enjoying the sequence of one story post followed by one 'history' post. The characters and the timeline are developing nicely in tandem.

One last thing: when I said the description of our heroes' 'wilderness' years in Europe was concise, I meant that as a compliment: rather than bogging the story down in pages of unimportant travels, you gave a quick summary and jumped back to the action. :)
 

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An independent Confederacy run by an ex-assassin could be very nasty indeed.
 

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Interesting developments. Frost has a huge advantage over her opponents in that it's probably easier to mess things up so that the timeline is modified than it is to struggle for maintaining it. Unless there is some kind of homeostatic functions in the universe (I mean besides the two functions putting their lives between the wheels of some smoking heap of scrap metal :p )

@ TheExecuter: you're being contaminated beyond measure. :D
 

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Nil-The-Frogg said:
@ TheExecuter: you're being contaminated beyond measure. :D

:eek:o
I'm advocating evil only for the sake of the plot. It has nothing to do with any nefarious toad worshipping collective based in a swamp west of Novgorod...If Frost were defeated soon...this wouldn't be a Director AAR! :)

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GhostWriter - well, Feric has had French women on the brain... and he comes from a very advanced civilization. You and I would think the 'Great Western' quaint; he lumps it in with birchbark canoes. :D

My father served in the Army in WWII (Phillipines) and he had some choice things to say about the transport ships. As you say, the 'Great Western' was probably worse. We've come a long way from that ship to the cruise ships of today.

J. Passepartout - the next two episodes are already in the can, waiting to be posted. The new administration will be... busy. :eek:

We will hear more from 'Black Dan' Webster shortly. And - by deeds, not words - from Frost.

TheExecuter - I originally had it separated as Stuyvesant says but combined the sentences as being too choppy. The day is cold, foggy and dim (hence the shadows).

I've been having a little fun with the elections as you can see. More coming... with occasional lapses back into sanity. :p

If Frost were easy to defeat it wouldn't be an AAR at all... and I promise you (*SPOILER ALERT*) that she is in this to the death. Someone's death. 'Here There Be Dragons' will tell you that my good guys don't always win.

Stuyvesant - given that some loon has probably crossed the Atlantic on a pool float I would agree that the 'Great Western' isn't tiny... she's about half the size of a WWII destroyer. In a storm she would roll about 20 degrees to either side, bob up and down 20-30 feet and take water over almost the entire deck. No radio, no radar, no Coast Guard helicopters. More than one ship her size has disappeared without a trace in an Atlantic 'norther'. She is the best of her time (and Brunel was a genuine genius, an engineer's engineer) but it would be a stretch to call her safe.

I appreciate the feedback about the format... I do intend to interweave 'vignettes' featuring our characters and historical expositions. I have great concern as to whether this is working, so please keep me posted.

I took your comment as a compliment and used it as an excuse to explain that I think I am just beginning to hit my stride with this one.

Fulcrumvale - oh, my, yes. If things get that far (heh heh) then it will be 'a warm and sanguinary work'.

Nil-The-Frogg - one of the points I have not yet made is that - as you say - it is easier to wreck than to defend, and easier to steer when you know where you are going and why. Our heroes cannot yet defend the goal because they aren't sure where the ball is.



To all: please let me know if you like the format so far. If the pace is a little slow and the tone a bit dry that is deliberate because I intend to shortly let slip the slavering hounds and go hell-for-leather. I confess I am more nervous about this one than I have been for anything else I've written.

Also, any comments on the format? (history interlaced with 'close-ups' of our characters).


I'm using the interim to play ahead (up to 1866 now) and to test out some new events. I'm also modding the naval units a bit so the Atlantic doesn't end up plated-over with Royal Navy battleships. 20-30 (the historic Grand Fleet) is good; 200+ is lunacy.
 

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And so it is time for our heroes to return. Things appear somewhat restless in the States, but then during that time it always was just a little bit. I am thinking, if anything, the end of compromise is around the corner but that may not be quite what Frost was looking for. ;)
 

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I am as unsettled as Makhearne is over Frost's goals, there are simply so many variables that need to be looked in to to even begin to have an idea. The one thing we all know is that Frost is up to no good and is very dangerous. Our heroes clearly have their work cut out for them. Sad for them, bully for we readAARs!

It is also proving quite interesting to see how politics and the election has reacted to Frost's manipulation and Clay's own play. I can only wonder how things will play out with Van Buren in the White House with a supportive House and a oppostion party in the Senate. Whichever way it goes, it shall be entertaining!
 

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Director: ...Also, any comments on the format?...

format is most excellent ! ! :cool:


what is missing is an update ! ! ;)
 

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To chime in with GhostWriter, updates are always good, of course! :)

Now, when you put it like this:
...the 'Great Western' isn't tiny... she's about half the size of a WWII destroyer. In a storm she would roll about 20 degrees to either side, bob up and down 20-30 feet and take water over almost the entire deck.
Yikes! :eek:

My only seafaring experience is crossing the English Channel/North Sea by ferry (oh, and taking the ferry to Copenhagen from mainland Denmark) and taking a week-long cruise through a tranquil Mediterranean, so clearly I have no clue what bad weather can be like. Consider my opinion on the size of the Great Western reversed. ;)
 

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President Martin Van Buren, the ‘Old Kinderhook’


The new President of the United States was a short, wiry man from the Dutch-settled Hudson River towns of upper New York state. Despite his grandfatherly and somewhat bumbling appearance, he was extremely intelligent and politically cunning, and the loss of the election in 1836 had only sharpened his desire to avoid unnecessary controversies. The stalwarts of the Democratic Party might thirst to overthrow every vestige of the Clay administration but Van Buren understood quite well what would and would not be possible of achievement. Even without the commanding presence of Henry Clay the Senate remained a bastion of opposition, and so Van Buren adopted from the beginning an attitude of mildness and conciliation as concealment for his movements.

Undoing the tariff compromise would break what many Americans regarded as a sacred compact, so Van Buren was content to allow the tariff to begin its slow decline as planned. The Bank of the United States was likewise untouchable, at least so long as the present economic boom continued. Any movement to grant statehood to Haiti on the basis of a constitution approving slavery would open a divisive question with no certainty of victory. Best then to accept the Clay compromise as a ‘fait accomplis’ and wait patiently for better odds in the future. Sale prices for western lands could be adjusted downward somewhat with the concurrence of the Whigs of western states, and the budget surplus derived from tariff and land sales could be directed more to the national debt than to internal improvements. It was in foreign affairs that the Van Buren administration made its first real departure from the Clay years. Scarcely had the inaugural festivities died away than rumors began to circulate of a secret treaty of alliance with Texas, negotiated by the new Secretary of State, James Buchanan. Before the year was out the existence of such a treaty had been confirmed, and much of the popular enthusiasm for the new administration cooled. “It would be very well to obtain Texas,” said an Ohio newspaper, “but war with Mexico seems a high price to pay for a people who could not win freedom on their own.”

Regardless of the gradual dwindling of government funds for internal improvements the American economy continued to grow at a fast and steady pace, with notable expansion of domestic heavy industries such as ironworks and shipyards. Tennessee and Kentucky poured forth immense quantities of whiskey and bourbon, New Jersey expanded its canned food industries shipyards and Philadelphia hosted a bevy of craft shops producing furniture by industrial methods. The railroad network was still made up of small, local railroads, none operating more than a few hundred miles of track, but the number of miles of new track laid down each year rapidly increased. By the end of 1841 it was possible to travel by railroad, riverboat and canal from New York City to Cleveland, Ohio on the Great Lakes in less than two weeks and for one-tenth of the previous cost. Freight and passenger traffic boomed and immigration to the west redoubled. Southern interests milked the last of the internal improvements funds even as they voted to end them. Local shortline railroads blossomed in South Carolina, Tennessee and Kentucky. Farther north the booming city of Chicago threw out bands of steel across the prairies of Illinois, linking itself to Galena in the northwest and the Ohio River in the south.

The Democrats were opposed to any expansion of the regular army and to any large appropriation for the military academy at West Point, but they did vote large sums for the improvement and expansion of the various state militias. More controversial was the War Department’s decision to proceed with the arming and training of Creole brigades on Hispaniola. These units, soon expanded to three in number, were intended to function as a combination police force and militia, freeing up Taylor’s regulars to depart the malarial lowlands. Southern protests against the arming of black troops were muted by the sickness and death that struck down the filibustering men of 1840 and by the failure of the General Chase to put down the revolts of the previous year.

1843 proved a watershed year for the Van Buren administration. The appointment of Daniel Webster as commissioner to settle the festering Aroostook controversy in northern Maine was widely hailed by both parties. The applause came from those who appreciated that the new boundary was probably as fair a compromise as either power could have hoped, and also from Democrats who were glad to see him out of the Senate even if only for a little while. Callous political motivations aside, offering the commission to Webster showed that Van Buren could rise above party calculations and was able to work cordially with members of the opposition.

On the heels of Webster’s triumph came news of atrocities in Madagascar. The firestorm of controversy surrounding the proposed punitive expedition entirely undid the good feelings of only a month before and plunged the parties into the bitterest conflict since Jackson’s war on the national bank.

The island of Madagascar lies off the south-eastern tip of Africa. In area it is larger than California, but the swamps and jungles of the coastal lowlands and the rugged mountains of the interior combined to largely prevent European settlement. Despite the remote location and a scarcity of natural resources, missionaries had been welcomed to the island by King Radama. Unfortunately he died prematurely in 1828 and his wife, Queen Ranavalona, seized the throne and sharply reversed his pro-Western practices. Among her new measures were the repudiation of a treaty with Great Britain, legalization of the slave trade and a return to old, tribal methods of governance and justice. Foreigners were to be persecuted and expelled. Christianity, she declared, was to be abolished on the island, and to that end she set about exiling or killing missionaries and converts alike.

Under the guise of establishing a trading post, a group of missionaries from Boston began conducting Christian services and accepting converts. In the summer of 1843 (January in the southern hemisphere) the Queen’s loyal followers of the Merina tribe descended on the trading post. Dozens of native Christians were killed along with at least a dozen Americans including women and children, chained in pits into which cauldrons of steaming water were slowly tipped, boiling the hapless prisoners alive.

The news of these atrocities at first united Whig and Democrat in demand for a punitive expedition but conflicting views as to the makeup of such an expedition quickly divided the government and the public. Conservative Whigs, fearing a re-enactment of Quitman and Taylor’s actions in Hispaniola, favored a purely naval expedition. But majorities in both houses were with the President: a full military expedition must be mounted to de-throne the ‘Mad Monarch of Madagascar’.

The naval portion of the expedition included the ships of the line ‘Ohio’ and ‘North Carolina’ in company with two frigates, a brig and two scores of transports. For operations inland, brevet Brigadier Generals Van Wirt and Stover would deploy the three Creole brigades from Hispaniola. It was thought that these troops would be better inured to the heat, humidity and to the jungle diseases. Whigs in the upper southern border states could console themselves in the knowledge that only black troops were being risked.

The expedition arrived off the island of Madagascar in November of 1843. Seizing the offshore city of Nosy Be as an anchorage and advanced base, the three Creole brigades launched a triple invasion up and down the west coast and inland from Toamasina on the east. The armies of Queen Ranavalona were numerous and the Merina tribesmen were ferocious fighters but the Creoles were equipped with Springfield rifled-muskets and 12-pounder artillery pieces and fitted by thorough training to be proficient in their use. Midway through 1844, Generals Stover and Van Wirt had established effective control over the island, recovering the bodies of the Queen and her son Radama when Antananarivo fell.

As combat operations drew to a close and the election campaigns of 1844 began to heat up it was soon apparent that Madagascar would be as divisive an issue as Haiti. There was no acceptable claimant to the throne. The island had been a haven for pirates and slave-traders for centuries. And far up in the mountains of the interior there was a treasure in the form of great stands of ebony, rosewood and other fine woods. As with Hispaniola it seemed impossible to simply sail away and leave the island people to their fate. To remain however meant embracing a sort of colonial empire for which the United States seemed entirely unsuited in temperament and character.

Madagascar’s prominence in the newspapers prompted a new fashion in fine furniture crafted from its native woods, and also a lively public discussion of what to do with the island. As a territory where slavery was legal, Madagascar would nicely balance Hispaniola, the Democrats argued. America had neither right nor interest in lands half-way around the globe, Whigs countered, nor any need for more slaves. Besides, America – the result of a successful colonial revolt - was itself the best argument against such unbridled colonization! And so, divided once more by the acquisition of foreign real-estate, the people of the United States went to the polls to vote.
 
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coz1 - even with our modern polling, focus groups and other political tools we have a hard time estimating what the results of certain actions will be. How must harder it must have been in an era where all news came from newspapers supported directly by one party or another.

Draco Rexus - I hope you found this episode entertaining. :)

GhostWriter - ask and ye shall (eventually) receive. Glad to hear the format is working alright so far. With the election of 1844 the temperature continues to rise.

Stuyvesant - I've never sailed the North Atlantic but I have always heard it is the worst weather of any of the oceans.
 

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I wonder how the successful deployment of an all-creole army will influence American race relations, especially in an independent confederacy.
 

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Director said:
coz1 - even with our modern polling, focus groups and other political tools we have a hard time estimating what the results of certain actions will be. How must harder it must have been in an era where all news came from newspapers supported directly by one party or another.

:rofl:
Sorry...I find this quote to be hilariously funny. Perhaps you should check out CNN and Fox News and compare. Or say, the Huffington Post as opposed to the Weekly Standard...I don't think much has changed politically here in the States since the War of 1812...

That opinion aside, I'm intrigued that Frost is moving towards a colonial empire so quickly...I actually don't think that will be much of a deviation from our own time-line. I wonder when the waste products will hit the rotating device...

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Heh. I had the same reaction as The Executer...

Nice post. Interesting to confront the USA with colonialism early.

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My God, this evil woman is forcing us to expand outside of what is our Manifest Destiny!

Or at least, if I was around at the time, I wouldn't be pleased about fighting across the world when there is ripe land for the taking closer to home. Madagascar is a place I frequently like to conquer in the game, though.
 

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I think the bounds of Manifest Destiny have been expanded just a tiny bit...

Frost:
You know what we are going to do tonight?

Pinky:
No, what?

Frost:
The same thing we try to do in every timeline...

Pinky:
And that is...?

Frost:
Take over the world!!

TheExecuter

P.S. Hmm...I wonder if the good guys lose in the end...
 

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A colonial empire whether they want it or not, it seems. And it would be curious to see Madagascar come in as some sort of slave state which would, in effect, start the slave trade once more. Of course, we must wait for the polls to close...or do we? ;)

And I'd have to agree with some of the others re: papers and news outlets owned by one party or another. I think we've discussed this many times. I really cannot think of one news organization or polling group that is not affiliated or supportive of one party or the other. There is no such thing, still today, as an independent media (unless you count the blogosphere, and that is a whole other animal and no less politically charged.) Not much has changed, indeed. :rolleyes: