A Solution for NO LOBBY - Utilizing MM

[Ragga]

With Euguen Systems stating that an MM system will now be implemented... I have a suggestion (sry for double post). Most people who are playing without a buddy or two don't enjoy playing against set teams, why make it possible? Furthermore, if you have a buddy or two, why would you enjoy beating a group of randoms when you know you have the advantage... actually I do know why

Here is the solution... after selecting Multiplayer 'PLAY NOW' / 'MatchMaker' (however they want to phrase it as long as it automatches you to a player or players of the same skill) gives the player the following choices:

1. 1v1 MM
2. 2v2 Random MM (equal teams to the best the MM system can do)
3. 3v3 Random MM (equal teams to the best the MM system can do)
4. 4v4 Random MM (equal teams to the best the MM system can do)

5. LARGE Random (this is a random MM that could range from 5v5 - 10v10... this would be based on the population searching for games and player skills - nonetheless, the teams would be matched to be as equal as possible... NO STACKED SEAL BEATINGS)

6. Team Games (SET TEAMs)


If this could be done, THERE WOULD BE NO NEED FOR A LOBBY... If you are playing by your self, just go to one of the Random MM game choices; this would provide you with the best experience... one that would result in you playing with/against ppl of similar skill. It will leave you with a feeling that, although you may have not won, at least you felt it was a FAIR game.

If you are with a buddy or two, select TEAM GAMES and get paired up with other ppl playing TEAM GAMES!!! While it searches for other teams to play against, you can still communicate in a waiting lobby.

This makes the best SENSE

 

[Feeblezak]

I don't want 10v10s restricted to 5v5 because the matchmaker fails.

Other than that the solution is fine I guess. There should still be a skirmish lobby that you can invite people to if you just want to mess around or do themed games and the like

 

[Ragga]

I don't think it would... unless the population searching for MM is small, and in that case getting a fair 10v10 would take forever.

I do like the skirmish option... maybe in the Skirmish Lobby (as it is) you could invite players.

 

[Destraex]

I think both are needed. However I welcome a mm system where people in lobbies were basically just setting noob traps. Most of what I want to do is coop with some very incompetent friends vs the ai. If that's not possible I may as well not buy.

 

[Ragga]

That is why I suggest in the skirmish menu you can invite friends to play either against you or against the ai... like the live feed from twitch today.

And I would be more than happy to play with ya

 

[GoraSahib]

Any discussion of eliminating a public match lobby option in favor of a MM is contingent on the quality and effectiveness of the MM. If the player base feels the MM isnt working well, and they dont have the choice of public matches then the game could see a population walk out. So, much of this talk hinges on what parameters the MM uses to create "fair" matches.

I would say the MM needs to look at more than just win/loss ratios. Obviously unit kill/losses ratio should be a factor. Total time in matches could be a parameter. Unfortunately, since there arent victory point locations this cant be part of the equation.

Anyway, Im looking forward to using the MM and I like what was outlined in the original post. However, I feel you cant just eliminate the public match lobby option. This is why I advocated in another thread a reward system for participating in the MM.

 

[Destraex]

What happens when the MM cannot find anybody any longer after the game is six months old. That's when clans and friends need to be able to setup lobby invites or wait for games. Otherwise everybody waits for hours randomly hoping something is going on in the match maker.