A small Crusader Kings Beta AAR - 4th of October 2011

[InboxMadness]

EDIT: It reminded me some of the funny assasination events in CKI where stewards kill their kings by leaving a treasure box near stairs so victims fall down and break their necks; and chancellors overturn bookcases and their kings end smashed.

Uh, a mod perhaps?

 

[PreXident]

Uh, a mod perhaps?

It's quite possible; I probably used great DVIP.

 

[Checco]

Obviously the Marry-Matilda tactic will not be that feasible when we start balance the game.

Showing the player a faithful portrait of Countess Matilda would make wonders, without adding any code.

I know it pretty well, she used to live near my neighbourhood.

 

[Admiral Fischer]

'Marry-Matilda' thing should not be an issue since she was betrothed to Godfrey the Hunchback already in 1055 at the first place.

The Foundation for Medieval Genealogy website says:

m (betrothed 1055, Verdun [May] 1069[282]) as her first husband, MATILDA Signora di Canossa Ctss of Tuscany, daughter and heiress of BONIFAZIO Marchese of Tuscany, Signor di Canossa & his second wife Beatrix of Upper Lotharingia ([Mantua] 1046-Bondeno de' Roncovi 24 Jul 1115, bur Monastery of San Benedetto di Polirone, transferred 1633 to St Peter's Rome). The Annalista Saxo names "Machtildis filia Beatricis ex Bonifacio marchione de Langobardia" when recording her two marriages[283]. Her first marriage was arranged at the same time as her mother's second marriage with Godefroi's father[284]. She is recorded as wife of Godefroi in his donation in [1069] to the abbey of Saint-Hubert des Ardennes[285]. She separated from her husband and returned to Tuscany in early 1070, although Godefroi requested her return[286]. Her marital difficulties were not helped by her husband's alliance with King Heinrich IV, husband and wife therefore supporting different sides in the deepening dispute between Church and Empire.

 

[tajerio]

'Marry-Matilda' thing should not be an issue since she was betrothed to Godfrey the Hunchback already in 1055 at the first place.

IIRC, he didn't die until 1076 either. Maybe it's the devs trying to ensure that she and Godfrey don't have any children, since they despised each other so much that it was extraordinarily unlikely they'd have any issue (I think they had but a single daughter, who died in infancy).

 

[Admiral Fischer]

IIRC, he didn't die until 1076 either. Maybe it's the devs trying to ensure that she and Godfrey don't have any children, since they despised each other so much that it was extraordinarily unlikely they'd have any issue (I think they had but a single daughter, who died in infancy).

Surely concept like 'Rival' could handle such relation, and moreover 10 years are enough to change not only the course of the history but individual's life. The point is, that she was betrothed to Godfrey the Hunchback before 1066. And after 1066, once the game starts, everything could happen.

What would happen to Europe if Godfrey reconciled with Matilda, or if their daughter, who died in childhood, was not a daughter but a son, and he survives childhood? Things are not really determined, and that is whole point of this game.

 

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I'd even wonder what would happen if Brittany would inherit Tuscany as well? Two duchies, separated by the French-HRE border or barbary coast pirates... I doubt they could form a stable realm even in peacetime.

And by the way, this AAR showed very well that marrying Matilda isn't anything of a sure way to domination.