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Welcome to you both.
And the sign on the door, in case you missed it, reads Beware of the HoG...
And the sign on the door, in case you missed it, reads Beware of the HoG...
All,
Don't forget to grab the latest patch.
For anyone worried about my tech... Heh.
Don't forget to grab the latest patch.
For anyone worried about my tech... Heh.
I check the thread, seems that everyone has worked things out fine. That's good, I'm glad to see it. I don't think that game has been run under what I consider our Code<what I've been use to gaming with with hosts such as Damocles first, Lifford second, Basil who left due to personal life... and Belisarious much lately. though massive edits were allowed in Bel's game it was a unanimous sort of thing, something I don't see here>
if people don't agree with my Opinion that is fine, but I'd rather not take part in something where the Majority doesn't feel same as I do when that's what every other game I'm in is. It's the essence of EU2 with me, and those who've played with me for 2 years know it. I am not bored, or quit, I'm walking away from something I feel being run incorrectly and since my name was on the subject header that IMO gives me every right, whining aside. I've got to stay true to my Hobby.
Good luck, and may the best Eu2er win.
if people don't agree with my Opinion that is fine, but I'd rather not take part in something where the Majority doesn't feel same as I do when that's what every other game I'm in is. It's the essence of EU2 with me, and those who've played with me for 2 years know it.
I am not bored, or quit, I'm walking away from something I feel being run incorrectly and since my name was on the subject header that IMO gives me every right, whining aside. I've got to stay true to my Hobby. Good luck, and may the best Eu2er win.
I apologize to HG for the personal insult as well and to the rest of you for the inconvenience I should be strong enough to kick him but I'm not in the mood and since I ran Venice into the ground I don't feel I have as much room to bark as HRE did who is very proud of their nation. So this is also a Personal issue. Me and HG are our differences are irrelevent to the rest are opposites but he should prove to be worthy host at this point, enjoy
Drew,
Following up an apology with a "should be strong enough to kick him" is a bit hollow, don't you think?
Kick me for what is the question. So far, all I've done is object to a ridiculous and unprecedented edit which was widely unpopular and regarded as personal on your part. Ah, yes, and I edited a solution to the BB as our GM made zero effort to correct it until minutes before the game.
It seems to have worked well, particularly when you take a look at a game that didn't-Hive took 5 civil wars in 5 years with less BB than the League. You're an absentee landlord, Drew-I hate GMing. But I've had no choice but step in on everything from major decision making to basic session organization. Finding subs. Getting people gathered. Dealing with absences (yours, for example). If you resent that, fine-all it took was coming to me and saying, "HG, I can and will do this stuff and I'd appreciate it if you took a back seat."
Like I said, I hate GMing. I would've gladly done it.
What I think really bothers you is that you've been unsuccessful this game, and your attempt to create a super power for yourself was widely objected. Surely, it can't be that I only favor edits that favor me-otherwise, I would've been all for an uber Kiev on Germany's border. Particularly with a warlord at the helm.
The truth is much simpler-I was opposed to this because it's never been done in a respectable game. Ever. I was opposed to this because it's self-defeating anyway, even if one doesn't object to the methods. I was opposed to this because your reasons were pretty delusional (for example-that you could take the HRE and conquer the world). I was opposed to this because it was self-interested and premised on analysis of the game that was simply wrong.
But more than that, I happen to think that a game is a game. This isn't like the BB-that was necessary to deal with a mid-game rules change. This is artificially strengthening countries solely because they're behind the frontrunners. I don't think that's appropriate under any circumstances.
And certainly not in a competitive environment. Apart from those directly benefiting, that seems to be the consensus. So in fact, what you're objecting to isn't fiat, but the lack of it.
Go ahead and bitch about my lack of reliability, but it's a smokescreen. You didn't get your way. Simple as that.
Following up an apology with a "should be strong enough to kick him" is a bit hollow, don't you think?
Kick me for what is the question. So far, all I've done is object to a ridiculous and unprecedented edit which was widely unpopular and regarded as personal on your part. Ah, yes, and I edited a solution to the BB as our GM made zero effort to correct it until minutes before the game.
It seems to have worked well, particularly when you take a look at a game that didn't-Hive took 5 civil wars in 5 years with less BB than the League. You're an absentee landlord, Drew-I hate GMing. But I've had no choice but step in on everything from major decision making to basic session organization. Finding subs. Getting people gathered. Dealing with absences (yours, for example). If you resent that, fine-all it took was coming to me and saying, "HG, I can and will do this stuff and I'd appreciate it if you took a back seat."
Like I said, I hate GMing. I would've gladly done it.
What I think really bothers you is that you've been unsuccessful this game, and your attempt to create a super power for yourself was widely objected. Surely, it can't be that I only favor edits that favor me-otherwise, I would've been all for an uber Kiev on Germany's border. Particularly with a warlord at the helm.
The truth is much simpler-I was opposed to this because it's never been done in a respectable game. Ever. I was opposed to this because it's self-defeating anyway, even if one doesn't object to the methods. I was opposed to this because your reasons were pretty delusional (for example-that you could take the HRE and conquer the world). I was opposed to this because it was self-interested and premised on analysis of the game that was simply wrong.
But more than that, I happen to think that a game is a game. This isn't like the BB-that was necessary to deal with a mid-game rules change. This is artificially strengthening countries solely because they're behind the frontrunners. I don't think that's appropriate under any circumstances.
And certainly not in a competitive environment. Apart from those directly benefiting, that seems to be the consensus. So in fact, what you're objecting to isn't fiat, but the lack of it.
Go ahead and bitch about my lack of reliability, but it's a smokescreen. You didn't get your way.
Simple as that.
All,
Heh... I just checked out the save with the new patch.
Everyone remember that these naval support limits (over 900 for the USB, nearly 800 for the HRE) aren't likely to survive the next beta. So if you build excessively and have to disband, you have no one to blame but yourself.
Heh... I just checked out the save with the new patch.
Everyone remember that these naval support limits (over 900 for the USB, nearly 800 for the HRE) aren't likely to survive the next beta. So if you build excessively and have to disband, you have no one to blame but yourself.
deal signed with hg ,
hre promises to stay out of africa and india
hre and his current allys sign nap with meso and his current allys for 50years
maps given to hre
acces given to hre for 50years from meso
hre promises to stay out of africa and india
hre and his current allys sign nap with meso and his current allys for 50years
maps given to hre
acces given to hre for 50years from meso
I wonder if you actually finish this game? Like the last one you played in... and show up later on with some BS explanation.
You're a great GM, you just make a bunch of decisions and consult everyone else after you're done with the edits 5 minutes before game time you show up.
Now I know why Satan abandoned CQS when you entered. And I'm not the only man in the group that feels this way. It's always your way or the Highway, the perfect GM even if it isn't right or whether it's gamey or whatever reason <rather I think the Hypocrit as well>
You're a great GM, you just make a bunch of decisions and consult everyone else after you're done with the edits 5 minutes before game time you show up.
Now I know why Satan abandoned CQS when you entered. And I'm not the only man in the group that feels this way. It's always your way or the Highway, the perfect GM even if it isn't right or whether it's gamey or whatever reason <rather I think the Hypocrit as well>
HolisticGod said:Drew,
Following up an apology with a "should be strong enough to kick him" is a bit hollow, don't you think?
Kick me for what is the question. So far, all I've done is object to a ridiculous and unprecedented edit which was widely unpopular and regarded as personal on your part. Ah, yes, and I edited a solution to the BB as our GM made zero effort to correct it until minutes before the game.
It seems to have worked well, particularly when you take a look at a game that didn't-Hive took 5 civil wars in 5 years with less BB than the League. You're an absentee landlord, Drew-I hate GMing. But I've had no choice but step in on everything from major decision making to basic session organization. Finding subs. Getting people gathered. Dealing with absences (yours, for example). If you resent that, fine-all it took was coming to me and saying, "HG, I can and will do this stuff and I'd appreciate it if you took a back seat."
Like I said, I hate GMing. I would've gladly done it.
What I think really bothers you is that you've been unsuccessful this game, and your attempt to create a super power for yourself was widely objected. Surely, it can't be that I only favor edits that favor me-otherwise, I would've been all for an uber Kiev on Germany's border. Particularly with a warlord at the helm.
The truth is much simpler-I was opposed to this because it's never been done in a respectable game. Ever. I was opposed to this because it's self-defeating anyway, even if one doesn't object to the methods. I was opposed to this because your reasons were pretty delusional (for example-that you could take the HRE and conquer the world). I was opposed to this because it was self-interested and premised on analysis of the game that was simply wrong.
But more than that, I happen to think that a game is a game. This isn't like the BB-that was necessary to deal with a mid-game rules change. This is artificially strengthening countries solely because they're behind the frontrunners. I don't think that's appropriate under any circumstances.
And certainly not in a competitive environment. Apart from those directly benefiting, that seems to be the consensus. So in fact, what you're objecting to isn't fiat, but the lack of it.
Go ahead and bitch about my lack of reliability, but it's a smokescreen. You didn't get your way.
Drew,
Actually, the BB issue was debated from the time the beta arrived to the time the session started. You, as the GM, utterly failed to do anything about it. Drake proposed a compromise, it was well recieved and I did the edit. Simple as that.
Otherwise, I defy you to cite a single example.
And certainly, to quote Steve at the time-given that he asked me to sub his Sweden for the final sessions of Into the Breach and, in fact, didn't play CQS at all. And never intended to join.
Actually, the BB issue was debated from the time the beta arrived to the time the session started. You, as the GM, utterly failed to do anything about it. Drake proposed a compromise, it was well recieved and I did the edit. Simple as that.
Otherwise, I defy you to cite a single example.
And certainly, to quote Steve at the time-given that he asked me to sub his Sweden for the final sessions of Into the Breach and, in fact, didn't play CQS at all. And never intended to join.
Drew,
Moreover, you quit because we wouldn't let you do a ridiculous edit. You quit because things didn't go your way.
Moreover, you quit because we wouldn't let you do a ridiculous edit. You quit because things didn't go your way.
All,
Right.
Well.
Bad luck. Tem's connection problems, Tom's connection problems, the miscommunication with Pibe, Konst's apparently connection problems and the smallest number of available subs I've ever seen.
Right.
Well.
Bad luck. Tem's connection problems, Tom's connection problems, the miscommunication with Pibe, Konst's apparently connection problems and the smallest number of available subs I've ever seen.
admiral drake said:
Too many NAPs in this game. And anyway, I had not signed any NAP whatsoever.
I think this game need some senseless war and violence
. And if no one is going to DOW, I better do that for myself (and that were the last words of the King of Leon before being annexed by their foes).I consider myself: not guilty
just bad luck HG, but don't blame any player of this frustrating session, especially if a player goes againts your interests in game (may i say alluluyah? at last someone!)
just bad luck HG, but don't blame any player of this frustrating session, especially if a player goes againts your interests in game
(may i say alluluyah? at last someone!)
All,
Here's the deal. We had some serious bad luck tonight, between technical difficulties and the astonishing lack of available subs. It happens (particularly to us).
I think we should move Konst to Kiev (unless Bocaj is, in fact, interested in continuing) and find a Byz if possible (lose it altogether otherwise). Carry on next week as always...
However, there's another issue. Drew won't stop barking because I more or less took over GMing duties-including making a final decision on the BB issue last week. Now, I don't think that was out of line given how little he actually did, and the fact that he wanted to address it after the normal start time.
But I hate doing this job, and I'd rather not continue on with bad blood. Several members of the group are immensely qualified to GM (Drake and Shig in particular, Tom if he had time). I'll gladly step aside if that's the consensus.
Here's the deal. We had some serious bad luck tonight, between technical difficulties and the astonishing lack of available subs. It happens (particularly to us
). I think we should move Konst to Kiev (unless Bocaj is, in fact, interested in continuing) and find a Byz if possible (lose it altogether otherwise). Carry on next week as always...
However, there's another issue. Drew won't stop barking because I more or less took over GMing duties-including making a final decision on the BB issue last week. Now, I don't think that was out of line given how little he actually did, and the fact that he wanted to address it after the normal start time.
But I hate doing this job, and I'd rather not continue on with bad blood. Several members of the group are immensely qualified to GM (Drake and Shig in particular, Tom if he had time). I'll gladly step aside if that's the consensus.
Pibe,
Well, heh, we were about to have some fun.
But no, the trouble seems to be widespread. Both Drake and I are now having connection interruptions. Either there's a virus moving through the group or generally across the net.
Well, heh, we were about to have some fun.
But no, the trouble seems to be widespread. Both Drake and I are now having connection interruptions. Either there's a virus moving through the group or generally across the net.
More peacefull years to the League, wich sent more colonialists to Peru. Land were traded with Germany in North America and Caribe, and land was sold to Leon in North America (you must pay )
Short session, wich was bad.
And this game should be called The NAPizied Game, and not the Randomized
)Short session, wich was bad.
And this game should be called The NAPizied Game, and not the Randomized
Camisa 10 said:More peacefull years to the League, wich sent more colonialists to Peru. Land were traded with Germany in North America and Caribe, and land was sold to Leon in North America (you must pay
Pay? What is this? (Besides, we not discussed a payment schedule
) Anyway, remember me ingame about payments.