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Well, I already expressed my point.
Tell me what you resolved before the session.
As I need to know if my country will be torn apart by two or more civil wars as soon as game start
Tell me what you resolved before the session.
As I need to know if my country will be torn apart by two or more civil wars as soon as game start
HolisticGod said:Camisa,
I must say. That is impressive spamming.
Bah, its cultural spamming, at least. That music with the lirics is one of the classics Nega do Cabelo Duro (Black woman of the Hard (or Bad) Hair :rofl: )
Yeah, the letter is worse
... but the music and the ritm is great End of cultural spamming
Camisa 10 said:Well, I already expressed my point.
Tell me what you resolved before the session.
As I need to know if my country will be torn apart by two or more civil wars as soon as game start
I think nobody has complained about the need to reduce your BB Camisa anyway. The League really needs some BB reduction.
arcorelli said:
league should gets it bb reduces to be just below the limit , but don't start with reducing bb with 10-15 to half the other players that have relative high bb without giving something to the people that did watch there bb like the tech proposed before as it would be 1 sided
Drew, Bocaj, Drake,
Jesus Christ.
This is like banging my head against a brick wall. I don't know if you three need an elementary lesson in logic or what, but it's gotten ridiculous. We're not asking for special favors. All we want is to reduce the stab-effect of BB to the same level that existed prior to the patch, which is perfectly fair and not at all one-sided.
And Drew, don't spout off the obviously inaccurate and expect to be taken seriously. My stab is now around 5300. Camisa's is now around 5100.
That is bull shit. But you don't care-because it isn't for you.
I say we play without the latest beta.
Jesus Christ.
This is like banging my head against a brick wall. I don't know if you three need an elementary lesson in logic or what, but it's gotten ridiculous. We're not asking for special favors. All we want is to reduce the stab-effect of BB to the same level that existed prior to the patch, which is perfectly fair and not at all one-sided.
And Drew, don't spout off the obviously inaccurate and expect to be taken seriously. My stab is now around 5300. Camisa's is now around 5100.
That is bull shit. But you don't care-because it isn't for you.
I say we play without the latest beta.
i suggest we do this ,
- make a standard of say 15bb drop for everybody
-if this puts the high bb countrys stil above the limit they should pay lets say 100gold a bb point till just below the limit
- if that drop puts the low bb country at 0 without having full bb drop it should get some money to compenasate for that
- gold i mean 100 for every bb he didn't get to drop
-tho on camisa part we have to chek out cause he is poor and way over limit
---conclusion of my suggestion = everybody looses 15bb for free , those who need more to get below limit wil pay 100 gold a bb point for it , and those who don't get entire bb drop cause of to low bb wil get 100gold for every bb point
this way seems best solution as we can discuss this problem for much longer and in the end we won't get much further anyway
- make a standard of say 15bb drop for everybody
-if this puts the high bb countrys stil above the limit they should pay lets say 100gold a bb point till just below the limit
- if that drop puts the low bb country at 0 without having full bb drop it should get some money to compenasate for that
- gold i mean 100 for every bb he didn't get to drop
-tho on camisa part we have to chek out cause he is poor and way over limit
---conclusion of my suggestion = everybody looses 15bb for free , those who need more to get below limit wil pay 100 gold a bb point for it , and those who don't get entire bb drop cause of to low bb wil get 100gold for every bb point
this way seems best solution as we can discuss this problem for much longer and in the end we won't get much further anyway
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admiral drake said:
The pay for more BB reduction is not good I think. If you need more BB reduction to go under the limit, then cut the thing. It is not like high BB countries will become low BB countries if we cut them near the limit. And paying ducats for a patch change do not strike me as very good.
Spec,
That wouldn't be fair.
But Drake's suggestion works... Only one person needs more than 15 BB removed, and that's Camisa. We agreed he should get it for free, so drop that part...
Everyone with less than 15 BB will get 100 ducats/point to compensate. Should work. I'll edit a save now, so that we have one session ready and I won't be doing it half an hour before we start.
Anything that hasn't been mentioned need doing?
That wouldn't be fair.
But Drake's suggestion works... Only one person needs more than 15 BB removed, and that's Camisa. We agreed he should get it for free, so drop that part...
Everyone with less than 15 BB will get 100 ducats/point to compensate. Should work. I'll edit a save now, so that we have one session ready and I won't be doing it half an hour before we start.
Anything that hasn't been mentioned need doing?
HolisticGod said:Spec,
That wouldn't be fair.
But Drake's suggestion works... Only one person needs more than 15 BB removed, and that's Camisa. We agreed he should get it for free, so drop that part...
Everyone with less than 15 BB will get 100 ducats/point to compensate. Should work. I'll edit a save now, so that we have one session ready and I won't be doing it half an hour before we start.
Anything that hasn't been mentioned need doing?
you probaly don't wanna hear it but i stil need my slider changes...... i can see that i never get the 30years before i joined but atleast the 2 frm when ai was running my country cause of connection drop (damn provider maintenance)
Drake,
All right.
Two clicks. Drew and Arco should get them too.
If you guys let me know within a half hour of the session, I'll do it...
All right.
Two clicks. Drew and Arco should get them too.
If you guys let me know within a half hour of the session, I'll do it...
Bocaj said:
My suspicion is that it has something to do with the isolation penalty. If you know (have diplomatic relations with) fewer than twenty (?) nations, you get a hefty penalty to tech costs. Since there are now fewer than twenty nations in the world, this could possibly explain it.
Shigure said:
My guess is this won't help, as the released countries will be Latin tech.
Just reminding you HG to change me to Kiev and give Ark a level 3 fort in case you forgot.
All,
Finished up the edits. Got bored. Ran a hands-off as Polotsk. This is my What If The Brave AI Ruled the World Instead of Tree-hugging Hippies AAR:
1565: Europe Is in Flames; Sicily Flames
1. First of all, you guys may say I'm a warmongering, merciless bastard, but my AI counterpart leaves me standing. It allied Leon and the United States, DOWed everyone else, built, from what I could tell, 300 ships and in 20 years took 9 provinces from Germany, 5 from the traitorous Leon (which dishonored the second German DOW), 7 from the Hanseatic League, 3 from Morocco and 4 from Sicily, in addition to at least 3500 ducats. Then it started losing stab and had three civil wars. Ultimately, half of Europe was liberated and the other half defected back to its original owners.
2. The United States of Britian, on the HRE's coat tails, ended up with Estonia, Lugansk, Sinai and Gotland. But don't sell them short-the 30 colonies of... er... England did manage to land 70,000 men in Russia.
3. Germany was partitioned almost out of existence. Within 6 months it had been DOWed by Kiev, the League, Byzantium and the HRE, which brought along Leon and the USB. Then, for reasons that defy human understanding, DOWed Morocco. Ultimately, it lost 3 provinces to Kiev, 3 provinces to the HRE, a province to the League and Albania to Morocco, which later took most of the Balkans.
4. Sicily DOWed the Papal States three times and... Paid indemnities. Each time. It was the only European major not to fight the other majors.
5. Byzantium fought a seemingly suicidal war against Kiev and a much put-upon Mesopotamia, but got lucky when Meso's government fell, leaving it in control of nearly the entire Middle East. Sadly, however, it had already lost several provinces to the Cossack Defenders.
6. Meso had around ten provinces left, last I looked. She did not cope at all well, which is odd given her peripheral position. The MEF (Moroccan Expeditionary Force) did save her from the United States, though. After stripping her a bit, of course.
7. Leon wound up in the unfortunate position of fighting both Morocco and the HRE. Twice. It lost. Badly.
8. The Hanseatic League was eventually stripped of all its territories in Finland, the Baltic coast and northern Norway by the USB, the HRE, Germany and Kiev. The Emperor of Romania appears to have decided to stake his Gibraltar at Skane, as well.
9. Morocco did well for itself, scattered provinces all over Europe. But, sadly, was the final victim of Holy Roman Emperor Nero II.
10. Kiev was the ultimate victor, annexing Finland, pushing into Sweden, stripping chunks of Germany and Byzantium and, in the end, annexing me.
Finished up the edits. Got bored. Ran a hands-off as Polotsk. This is my What If The Brave AI Ruled the World Instead of Tree-hugging Hippies AAR: 1565: Europe Is in Flames; Sicily Flames
1. First of all, you guys may say I'm a warmongering, merciless bastard, but my AI counterpart leaves me standing. It allied Leon and the United States, DOWed everyone else, built, from what I could tell, 300 ships and in 20 years took 9 provinces from Germany, 5 from the traitorous Leon (which dishonored the second German DOW), 7 from the Hanseatic League, 3 from Morocco and 4 from Sicily, in addition to at least 3500 ducats. Then it started losing stab and had three civil wars. Ultimately, half of Europe was liberated and the other half defected back to its original owners.
2. The United States of Britian, on the HRE's coat tails, ended up with Estonia, Lugansk, Sinai and Gotland. But don't sell them short-the 30 colonies of... er... England did manage to land 70,000 men in Russia.
3. Germany was partitioned almost out of existence. Within 6 months it had been DOWed by Kiev, the League, Byzantium and the HRE, which brought along Leon and the USB. Then, for reasons that defy human understanding, DOWed Morocco. Ultimately, it lost 3 provinces to Kiev, 3 provinces to the HRE, a province to the League and Albania to Morocco, which later took most of the Balkans.
4. Sicily DOWed the Papal States three times and... Paid indemnities. Each time. It was the only European major not to fight the other majors.
5. Byzantium fought a seemingly suicidal war against Kiev and a much put-upon Mesopotamia, but got lucky when Meso's government fell, leaving it in control of nearly the entire Middle East. Sadly, however, it had already lost several provinces to the Cossack Defenders.
6. Meso had around ten provinces left, last I looked. She did not cope at all well, which is odd given her peripheral position. The MEF (Moroccan Expeditionary Force) did save her from the United States, though. After stripping her a bit, of course.
7. Leon wound up in the unfortunate position of fighting both Morocco and the HRE. Twice. It lost. Badly.
8. The Hanseatic League was eventually stripped of all its territories in Finland, the Baltic coast and northern Norway by the USB, the HRE, Germany and Kiev. The Emperor of Romania appears to have decided to stake his Gibraltar at Skane, as well.
9. Morocco did well for itself, scattered provinces all over Europe. But, sadly, was the final victim of Holy Roman Emperor Nero II.
10. Kiev was the ultimate victor, annexing Finland, pushing into Sweden, stripping chunks of Germany and Byzantium and, in the end, annexing me.
reminds me if we all wan't to get rid of that isolation thing shigure was talking abut we need to get 10 ai
Just create a bunch of one-prov AIs in Tibet or something.
Though, it seems kinda pointless to do this, since everyone is disadvantaged equally...
Though, it seems kinda pointless to do this, since everyone is disadvantaged equally...
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Sorry for the short notice, but I won't be here for today's session. I was going to go out last week sometime, but then my mum postponed it to today and I didn't realise.