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Just wanted to show off one idea I'm getting for a possible AAR, still focused on finishing this one and also on working for the American resistance one in 2015.
But I got bored and started playing off scenarios in my mind about the 1936 US election in Kaiserreich.
:p

What do you think?

So, KR USA with no Syndicalists and the 1936 election ending with a narrow Democrat majority, a pretty darn strong American First and a Republican West coast? Interesting scenario you got there :)
 

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So, KR USA with no Syndicalists and the 1936 election ending with a narrow Democrat majority, a pretty darn strong American First and a Republican West coast? Interesting scenario you got there :)
Yeah, more'o'less. :p

I was reading your AAR (Wasn't logged in so couldn't post haha) and a feeling of "C'mon, CSA, recover against the north commies, beat them up!" started haha.
While I was also thinking about the Kaiserreich mod and the USA civil war, so I started thinking.

In this scenario, the government fights against Reed and the Syndicalists in the legal battleground, eventually, Reed chooses to go like OTL Wallace by 1968 for example. However, without the party being allowed to run, issues start between Democrats and America First as they claim those states (because Reed gets the most "votes" [write-ins])

So, the Democrats and America First fight because they insist that those results can't be counted in, while both parties are also in a good position to emerge winners.
(I still have to polish more that idea)

All of it started in my mind as a "Uhmmm, how would a Long victory be" and eventually I thought that adding some flavour of the civil war would be exciting to do.
 
Interlude: Second Russo-Japanese War.

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Second Russo-Japanese War. - taken from BBC News.
June 27th, 2019.

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Families of the Japanese Maritime Self-Defence Force see off the Japanese support vessel "Murasame" before sailing to join the rest of the fleet after the failed attempt by Soviet forces to isolate Hokkaido island from the rest of Japan.

Background.

The developments in the Soviet Union continue to worry all the leaders in Europe along Asia, after the reformist government of Petro Symonenko was overthrown by the State Committee on the State of Emergency (GKChP) several of the reforms were rolled back while the army was deployed in the main cities of the several Soviet Republics. Most of the leaders of the democratic movements were suddenly arrested while the manifestations were broken up and quickly brought to an end, several ministers on important positions have already recognized the legitimacy of the new government one of them being the leader of the KGB; Vladimir Putin, known mainly for his opposition to General Secretary Symonenko and his desire to normalize relations with the United States while distancing from the Worker's Republic of China.

The border incidents between the Republic of Korea, the Republic of China and the Soviet Union on the other side had going on since the defeat of the People's Republic of China in the Yalu War also known as the Operation National Glory or more commonly known in the West as the Chinese-Korean War. The clashes had going on for several years, however, the last of them had been in 2008 with General Secretary Symonenko's predecessor, but all of that is in the past today. On June 15th, the Soviet Armed Forces moved against Zhenbao Island once again, when the Korean forces managed to beat the Soviet ones then the infamous Zhenbao Bombing Raid took place.

While Soviet bombers destroyed the Korean outpost, a nuclear weapon was tested kilometers away as well, an action that received quick condemnation from the international community. However, the Soviet Army didn't continue advancing towards the island and the hostilities ended right there, several analysts consider that the battle along the nuclear test were used by the GKChP to inspire a nationalist feeling within the population in order to stop the opposition to their rule. Everything went wrong when a Sukhoi Su-24M attack aircraft was shot down by the Japanese Air Self-Defence Force after entering Hokkaido's airspace.

The Soviet Union quickly denounced the action and threatened Japan if they didn't return the surviving pilot along paying an indemnization for the incident, however, the Japanese government soon released a tape where the pilot told the Japanese authorities that he was defecting and he even said that the new government in Moscow wasn't supported by the people. The GKChP loudly protested it and soon the Soviet Navy started moving towards Hokkaido, enforcing a naval blockade against the island, but the previous preparations made by the Japanese Maritime Self-Defence Force allowed them to sink one of the Soviet submarines trying to enforce the blockade.

Declaration of War.
After a Kilo-class submarine was sunk by the Japanese Maritime Self-Defence Force, the Soviet government declared the existing state of war between the Japanese State and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics: several countries quickly made a call for peace in Asia and insisted that a diplomatic solution was needed. However, there were also countries unwilling to make statements about the new war that had erupted in Asia and there were some that directly supported one of the sides. One of the most vocal supporters for the Soviet Union was the Worker's Republic of China while the United States even if they weren't officially allies of Japan, quickly endorsed their position and proceeded to condemn the Soviet Union along sending a carrier group towards the region.

There hasn't been a country as vocal in their support as the Republic of Korea along the Republic of China, Chinese troops were mobilized in Manchuria and along the borders with the Worker's Republic of China in order to deter them from making any attack against their positions. Meanwhile, the Republic of Korea declared war against the Soviet Union, insisting that the attacks upon Korean troops and against Chinese territory wouldn't be tolerated anymore. Right after doing so, Korean troops landed on Noktundo while more forces crossed the Tumen river in an attempt to secure the Russian side of the border.

In a strange development, one of the minor parties represented at the National Assembly made a call to the government to restore the "rightful" borders of Korea, based on the extension that previous Korean kingdoms had in the past. While it's highly unlikely that the bill will pass, it's important to understand that it could affect the ongoing war against the Soviet Union as that would also mean on claiming territory as the Noktundo peninsula, Vladivostok and even territory from their Chinese allies, like the Yanbian Autonomous Prefecture.

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Korean Marines after landing on Noktundo peninsula, the operations were carried out swiftly as the Soviet Army wasn't ready for the start of hostilities against both Korea and Japan. There's speculation that the unrest within the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic is causing difficulties for the Soviet Armed Forces to operate smoothly.

Will America get involved?
It's no secret that the American-Japanese alliance broke down during the 60's, however, even after that happened the United States kept an important amount of attention at Asia. After all, the Republic of Korea kept close links to the United States and even if Japan wasn't unwilling to give basing rights to the American Forces they also agreed that it was in their best interest to continue the cooperation in order to keep the security of the region.

However, American president, Kamala Harris has been clear about her opposition to continue the deployment of American forces through the world. While her administration has been vocal in the support towards Japan and Korea, there seems to be a general apathy at the Congress and the population to intervene in the war, at the same time, the American government is still trying to defuse the situation in order to avoid a possible nuclear conflict between the two nuclear-states: Korea and the Soviet Union.

At the same time, president Harris has also said that: "We won't accept a change to the basic principles of the Treaty of San Francisco, therefore, shall the conflict between both parties continue, the United States of America will not recognize any Japanese claim to Soviet territory." The move proved to be quite unpopular within the Republican-dominated Senate, with one Senator even saying: "While we surely remember what Japan once did to our great country, we shall also understand the looming threat to the American way of life and to the world's democracy. Japan may have elected to distance from us after the bomber incident, but they have stayed as a strong democracy and they have never threatened again the United States of America. Meanwhile, the Soviet Union is attacking American allies and friends in the region and the only thing president Harris chooses to say is that."

The vice president, Joseph Manchin III, was also clear about his disagreement with president Harris: "The Soviet Union has already decided a path to take and until the coup leaders choose to respect the will and rights of the Soviet citizens, we can't consider that government to represent the numerous groups living under the Soviet flag. At the same time, they are blatantly attacking our allies in Asia, our friends, those that have fought with us against that very same threat. So, yes, we shall never forget what Japan did against our great country, but we can't allow the Soviet aggression to continue; however that conflict ends, it's up to the ones fighting it, not us as long as we remain neutral."

Finally, the Doomsday Clock is currently one minute and thirty seconds away from the midnight, for more of information about that please check out the next note.

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Okay, here's a brief update for you to know a bit more of this Timeline's 2019. I bet you were a bit curious about the Zhenbao Bombing Raid so I chose to develop a bit more about it.

I'm currently undergoing some...emotional and psychological issues so I'm having a tough time, but do not worry, nothing will ever stop me from keeping on with this AAR. And remember, even if some events narrated here may seem unlikely, my first priority is giving you an interesting scenario to read out while not completely going 100% unrealistic.

I hope you enjoy it and please, comment if you'd like me to change something if it's quite implausible for your taste.
(I changed the Zhenbao Bombing Raid, originally it took place on January, however I changed the previous dates to June)

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An interesting case of things coming full circle. In some respects, the foundations of what would become the USSR were laid from the unrest and upheval of the First Russo-Japanese War, and now it seems as though the seeds of their fall are being sown in the Second.
 

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Wow, what a twiste. Thanks a lot for your work and new update, for now it's a best cold war/ modern day AAR.
 

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I wonder if there is a 21st century Tsushima Straits in the offing.
 

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Damn, that is a very interesting alternate 2019 you got there :O

Can't wait to see what happens next
 

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I got back to classes this month, that's why I haven't been able to post more.
But, worry not, I'm currently working on the next update and it will feature a brief teaser about:
One of the Eastern Bloc countries situation by 2019.

:)
So, keep close and remember; I may take a while to update, but I won't stop doing this AAR. :p
(We still have to see Korea smacking down the 'hood) :cool:
 

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No worries.
 

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I know, I know, I'm always saying that the update is close.

Haven't been able to properly focus these days, I was actually going to write this weekend but... well, my family and me went through something so... yup.
Delay!

But don't worry, I bet I'll have one soon. I'm also starting to learn Korean as well sooo, yeah, this will be fun.
Anyways, just wanted to post and keep you updated about the status of the AAR; not on Hiatus and not dead.
:)

I also wanted to tell you that I'm currently thinking on adding some events inspired by some mechanics I saw on a HoI4 mod.
They seem pretty interesting and they could possibly add some flavour to unique situations we'll be seeing in the AAR.

So, thanks for your patience, keep an eye open!
 

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Best wishes for the family situation, whatever it is

Take your time :)
 

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Hope all is well with you and there is of course no rush...take all the time you need :)

Always excited to see what you do next :D
 
Chapter VII: Foreign and Domestic developments. (Part III)

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Chapter VII: Foreign and Domestic developments. (Part III)
"The lesson of the Hungarian experience is clear – liberty can be delayed but it cannot be denied..." - George W. Bush, former president of the United States.
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The Years of the Troika. - Lena Maslova.

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Kliment Yefremovich Voroshilov, member of the Soviet Troika after Stalin's death (1953-1958), after the "Stalinist Legacy Speech" in 1958 his role became more prominent and eventually he later became leader of the Soviet Union for a brief period.
The 1950's were an interesting decade for the Soviet Union, both internally and externally, the developments that took place after Stalin's death proved to be crucial to the course the country, their allies and even the whole Cold War would take. There were numerous decisions taken that would affect several parts of the world, one of the most remarkable ones was the consolidation of the Socialist Republic of Indochina and the Southeast Asian Conflict that ensued, another one was the failed involvement in the French political crisis of 1957 which resulted in the collapse of the government and the French Fourth Republic altogether.

The economy kept the same course it had taken with Stalin, with the main focus being the heavy industries. But there was also another factor to consider, by 1956 the Soviet Union was lagging behind the United States in nuclear technology and warheads, mostly due to Malenkov's opposition to their development. At the same time, the money saved by not developing nuclear armament was spent on the armed forces along as support for the "fraternal allies in the war against Capitalism". The intervention on Indochina had been quite expensive to the Soviet Union, after all it had been a full deployment of forces along juicy aid packages to Vietnam in order to rebuild the destroyed "provinces" of Cambodia and Laos.

But that wasn't the only foreign policy venture the Soviet Union was involved in, after all, while Mao's China was funding resistance movements in Laos while Thailand (backed by the United States) did the same at Cambodia, the Soviet Union began funding an unexpected country through hidden channels. Money and equipment was sent towards Burma, with the real objective being the KMT Army entrenched across the border of the People's Republic of China; it was the Soviet answer to the Chinese funding of rebel movements in Laos.

At the Middle East the policy was different, war had been averted thanks to the timely launch of the Sputnik into the space. Therefore, the lesson that the Soviet Troika would take from that was that the space would be the ultimate battlefield in the future, so the country's space program received more resources while the scientist's conditions were also improved. Egypt had been the winner of the Suez Crisis, after all, political chaos flooded the United Kingdom and France allowing the Soviet Union to crack down against Hungary while trying to solve the Polish situation in a bloodless way.

The Polish October.

The situation in Poland had been getting out of control through that year, mostly because the economy wasn't working properly and there were food shortages through the nation along several issues regarding housing, consumer goods, the income and even the management of economy and the trade relations with the Soviet Union. After Stalin died and the Soviet Troika got established, it became an inspiration to Boleslaw Bierut; usually called the Polish Stalin. He, along Jakub Berman and Hilary Minc, established the Polish Troika, basically a government modeled on the new Soviet one, it kept close to the Stalinist ideology while at the same time it strengthened the cult of personality around Bierut.

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After the Polish Troika was established, the main figure was Boleslaw Bierut. He was widely seen as the most important member of the Troika, when he (and Berman) died it was obvious that Minc wouldn't keep the control of the government. Soon, Bierut's popular rival began to rise within Poland: Wladyslaw Gomulka.

Bierut and Berman died in an air accident while flying towards Moscow by early 1956, soon the situation got chaotic at Poland as several factions within the Communist Party moved against Minc as his position quickly weakened after two members of the Troika died. While the Communist Party had a conflict within it, the Polish population was also restless and chose that moment to try to change the fate of their country.

By June one of the most important events for Poland would take place, the Poznan Protests, they would become known as the first massive protests against the communist government of Poland. The demands of the strikers was an improvement to the economic situation of the country and of the workers, many of them were complaining about a measure implemented the previous year; it made higher taxes for the most productive workers. Eventually, as the Communist Party was fighting itself, the workers chose to take the opportunity to express their anger against the government.

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The Poznan Protests of 1956 are considered to be a signal of the weakness within the Communist government of Poland, however, it's important to remember that most of their issues were economic ones. There was little demand for political reforms, most of them were about improving the situation for the average worker.
While Poland was going through popular unrest and their communist party kept struggling with several factions within it, specially one that had a more nationalist trend than the others, the Soviet Union was busy dealing with the situation in Egypt but at the same time studying the developments at Hungary. It's important to remember that, while Nikolai Bulganin was against cracking down against the Polish, he wasn't supporting an independent (from Moscow) Poland, his main interest was keeping Poland within the Soviet Bloc but in flexible way in case that force had to be used elsewhere.

Voroshilov and Malenkov wouldn't agree, however, the situation at Egypt and then at Hungary would consume most of their attention and considering that the Polish unrest was mainly about the economy, they chose to accept Bulganin's way. Negotiations were started with the Polish government, both Poland and the Soviet Union depended on each other, so it was in both parties interests to solve the situation as better as possible in order to move on.

Gomulka's demands were focused on achieving political independence to Poland as it had been basically a Soviet colony since the establishment of the communist regime. Bulganin was against some of Gomulka's points, however, he also knew that the situation at Hungary was turning unstable and that Soviet Forces would have to be deployed if it kept going that way. So, accepting the limited revolution within Poland seemed a better choice than having to deal with two radicalized movements in two Warsaw Pact countries.

By October, the situation had finally been solved.

Gomulka was approved to be the new leader of Poland, the Polish communists soon had enough public support as they were seen as fighting the Soviet influence and control over their country. Gomulka promised to maintain the communist system intact within Poland which was the main concern in the Soviet side of negotiations. Even if many Soviet officials remained suspectful about Poland, they accepted the new course Poland would take, however, Georgy Malenkov would not forget Bulganin's decision regarding the Polish Rebellion, as he considered it to be.

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Wladyslaw Gomulka, he would prove to be an example for other Eastern Europe countries about how a limited revolution allowed Poland to restore her independence from the Soviet Union. His government would begin with a huge amount of popular support.

The Hungarian Revolution of 1956.
The situation at Poland had been an inspiration to Hungary, after all, the Polish people through protests and expressing their unrest had been able to reassert their nationalism, they had been allowed to get more political independence. Soon, Hungarian crowds of students and other civilians moved against the government, while it had liberalized a little; attempting to imitate the success that Poland had gone through. There was an important difference, the Polish people hadn't been radical enough to be seen as a threat to the Soviet Troika; while the Hungarian movement was quickly radicalized after a battle took place between the secret police (ÁVH) and the crowd along some soldiers that deserted.

Everything had started in Summer, just like the Polish October, however, the main events in the Hungarian Revolution took place at the end of October, after Gomulka had taken the power at Poland. By October the situation was spiralling out of control, after the fight between soldiers and the crowd against the secret police, it was clear that the government couldn't deal with it properly, by October 25th the government had already collapsed while several militias tried to take the parliament.

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The Battle of Budapest was quite chaotic, the courage and ferocity of some Hungarian rebel units was enough to cause terror to the Soviet troops, some even left their tanks to be captured by the rebels. Obviously, the Soviet Troika made their best attempts to hide this fact in order to maintain the invincible aura of the Soviet Army.

The main fighting was taking place at Budapest, the countryside was easier to handle but the fierce fighting within the capital was proving to be harder to handle than expected. Defence Minister, Georgy Zhukov suggested to retreat the forces and reorganize a second intervention against the Hungarian Republic. But that wasn't an option for Malenkov and Voroshilov, they had caved in to Bulganin regarding Poland and instead of seeing that as a success they blamed him and the Polish October for causing instability within Hungary.

The orders were made, no retreat would be allowed regarding Budapest, after all, some opposition groups were even calling for a multi-party democracy, the withdrawal from the Warsaw Pact and the proclamation of neutrality, just as Austria was. That was unacceptable to the Soviet Troika, orders were given to minister Zhukov to reinforce the position of the Soviet Army at Hungary. Soon, additional forces at the command of marshal Konev were deployed towards the country. Few of them stayed at the countryside while the majority moved towards Budapest, the orders were clear, end up the counter-revolution consuming Budapest and restore a communist government in Hungary.

Yuri Andropov, the Soviet ambassador to Hungary was quick to denounce the protests as a counter-revolution, after watching in horror how fast the regime was collapsing he insisted to the Troika about how necessary was the Soviet intervention. The fighting was fierce, the Hungarian rebels were using everything at their disposal to fight the loyalists and the Soviets, eventually, when Konev's troops arrived it all was lost. Even before they had gotten to Budapest, some communists were quickly defecting to the Soviet side, one of them was Janos Kadar; he would eventually be named the new leader of the People's Republic of Hungary.

By October 29th, most of Budapest had been pacified, the Soviet Army had crushed the resistance and the top leaders of the revolution had been executed or captured. The quick collapse of the Hungarian Revolution wasn't covered in some countries, after all, most of the attention was still placed over the United Kingdom and France's plan to invade Egypt in order to recover the Suez Canal. The country was still a mess, however, by November 3rd it was all over. Kadar began a terror campaign against anyone involved in the "counter-revolution" while some important lessons were learned by the Warsaw Pact countries and Soviet politicians.

  • Zhukov was angry at the rushed way the intervention had taken place, he felt it was hastily organized and only succeeded due to the mess the revolutionaries were. He was worried about the direction the Troika could take the country in case of war or in case another intervention was required elsewhere.
  • Bulganin was deeply worried, after all, Malenkov and Voroshilov considered him partially responsible due to his management of the Polish situation. He started wondering how strong were the Stalinist ideals within the Soviet Union and he was also scared about the idea of a renewed Stalinism taking place within the country.
  • The Stalinist faction got strengthened, Malenkov, Voroshilov and Molotov soon acquired more power and influence within the country. Sidelining reformists and other party members advocating for a change of course in the management of the country.
  • Yuri Andropov, the ambassador at Hungary, was impressed by the sudden collapse of the communist regime in Hungary, eventually, he would start to believe that only through force could communism survive challenges like the one faced at Hungary.
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Here it is!
The next update, apologies for taking such a long time to update, I have been quite busy with classes, Japanese, personal issues...

Anyways, we have two events here;

  • Poland goes basically OTL, we manage to see that a small POD had taken place (establishing a Polish Troika) but it was quite limited so no drastic changes yet.
  • The crushing of the Hungarian Revolution, here, the Soviet Troika chooses to go full intervention instead of leaving the country temporarily as OTL. Of course, the hastily planned offensive against Hungary was messy and inflicted heavier casualties on the Soviet side than OTL. But, after all, it all went the only way it could in this scenario as well: crushed.
I hope you enjoy it!
I'll proceed to plan the events for 1957 as we are getting into some good stuff, I also want to announce that if gameplay screenshots aren't as interesting as I'd like (these two events were just that, events in-game) I'll use pictures. And, I'll probably change how much time a chapter lasts, I'm still not sure enough.

Anyways, enjoy! :D
 
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Glad to see more from you, @RV-Ye, and hoping everything is going well at home :)

It seems that the Western Powers aren't the only ones having to deal with political turmoil at home, though (as usual) the Soviets tend to keep most of their infighting hidden from the world at large. I have a feeling that the present Troika isn't going to last much longer, and eventually the hardliners are going to take full control -- which is going to have serious ramifications down the road.
 

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Trust the Russians to be so reliably Russian
 

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Glad to see more from you, @RV-Ye, and hoping everything is going well at home :)

It seems that the Western Powers aren't the only ones having to deal with political turmoil at home, though (as usual) the Soviets tend to keep most of their infighting hidden from the world at large. I have a feeling that the present Troika isn't going to last much longer, and eventually the hardliners are going to take full control -- which is going to have serious ramifications down the road.
Thanks for your words! Things are quite better these days. :)

Indeed, the Soviets are trying to keep their struggles (both within the USSR and in their allies) hidden. Well, maybe you're right, maybe you aren't. :p
I have been detailing in a Word document the ideas I've got (more'o'less) for this AAR, however, I'm always open to new turns and alleys if the game chooses to take me by surprise. I know I've said this like a billion times but, the 60's will be the most interesting decade for the AAR.
:D Believe me.

Trust the Russians to be so reliably Russian
:p
Why is so?
I'm not familiar with China post-civil war, so may I ask, was that KMT army in Yunnan there IRL at this point?
Yes! (Well, no)
The KMT was at Burma, not at Yunnan, if my mind serves me right they were the remnants of the Yunnan army that fled after the communist victory in the civil war. They stayed a long time in Burma and were a point of tension between Burma and the RoC for some time. Here you can see a bit more about that if you are interested. :)
 

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I'm close to finishing up with classes, two more weeks, this means I'll have more than enough time to finish the event-creation I gotta do.

However, it also means a bunch of work to deal with. :p

I'm currently researching some things for the AAR as well, I gotta check some stuff before making my events and of course, double-checking with the NWO mod base events just in case I gotta modify one or two. :) But, don't worry, I expect a new update to come "soon" :)P I promise that it will be up before December).

I'm also thinking about how I will deal with some ideas I've detailed in the AAR, but you'll see later.
And I'm also thinking about some events to simulate the Algerian War of independence as the current state of the mod keeps Algeria as a French colony until an event gives it independence and I frankly find that a bit boring. I'm also going to start giving a wider view to other countries as well, European, Asian but specially; some Latin American countries will get some attention as well. :p
(Yeah, thanks to my Latin America class hehe)

Anyways, see you soon readAAR's!