Ok to try to make things a little clearer, i know what is necessary for creating titles and how to do it in game but what i don't know is what files i need to edit and what specifically i need to edit in those files so the teutonic order can do it...as it stands they aren't allowed to create new titles...so i am asking how to make it so they can...and as for playing as them i do know how to edit the save files to play as them and to use the cheat but that's not what i'm aiming for in the long run...i am wanting to know how to make them appear as a playable faction at the time they were historically created...i tried doing it via creating a new faction but then at 1225 i ended up with two teutonic orders...thats not gonna work so i just need to figure out what all i need to edit to make the existing teutonic order show as playable at the specific time i'm aiming for...all help is much appreciated...and imo there aren't enough tutorials written by the ones with the knowledge so as to help those that haven't acquired the knowledge yet accomplish these things without asking a million questions...just sayin