A Question Hive Mind Influence

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So, as a Hive Mind, does your empire have the Influence resource? I'd really like an answer from the devs on this one, if it hasn't already been given elsewhere. Influence is a measure of your political pull, the ability to smooth the wheels of government to make changes happen. With a hive mind, there is no government, just the will of the Hive. Realistically if the hive wants to colonize that planet on the other side of the galaxy, it's going to. It doesn't have to convince anyone but itself, so unless Hive influence is a representation of you talking yourself into doing things(which, don't get me wrong, that would be hilarious) I don't see why they would have it. If they want better mineral quotas on a planet, they'd simply mine harder there.
Any Devs willing to sate my curiosity 4 days before I can find out for myself?
 

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So, as a Hive Mind, does your empire have the Influence resource?
yes. you even have +1 bonus to it. and also can pick another +1 from civics.
but you'll have no factions so you will not gain\loose influence from them
 

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As was said:
1 point/month is the basic income of every empire, afaik.
You get +1 from hivemind government, but that is all you get to offset the lack of Factions.
And a 3rd you can get from a Hivemind Civic choice (similar to Cuthroath Poliics in non-Hivemind Empires).

Every tech that used to give Influence income now only increases the (maximum?) Influence income from factions. So it is likely useless for Hiveminds.

I have the saying "Every Mechanic you dodge, is a Mechanic you can not master". You dodge Factions, Happiness and Ethics. But in turn you can not master it to gain influence.
 

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On the other hand, every mechanic you dodge is a mechanic you can ignore.

You dodge factions, so every 10 years you can tailor your policies to perfectly match the diplomatic preferences of the neighbor you are trying to woo. Because you have no factions to piss off so these policies are likely to have a minimal effect, if any.

You dodge happiness, you can skip a wealth of habitability technologies and drop your people on any world with a crap 40% habitability. And if they starve all that means is they aren't growing.

You dodge ethics. Which means you're not automatically opposed to anyone.
 

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On the other hand, every mechanic you dodge is a mechanic you can ignore.
Ignoring them is the reason you dodge them. If there was no reason to dodge them, the question was moot. You would loose Influence without gaining anything.

You dodge factions, so every 10 years you can tailor your policies to perfectly match the diplomatic preferences of the neighbor you are trying to woo. Because you have no factions to piss off so these policies are likely to have a minimal effect, if any.
But in 1.5 that is no longer as static. You can change your "Loyalist" Factions as the gameplay develops. It is a problem, but a manageable problem.

You dodge happiness, you can skip a wealth of habitability technologies and drop your people on any world with a crap 40% habitability. And if they starve all that means is they aren't growing.
Habitability is the same less-concern for the others too. You may still get unrest, but "10% under base" unrest should be manageable. The old Rebel Factions have been turned into unrest. The new Factions work nothing like them.

You dodge ethics. Which means you're not automatically opposed to anyone.
As Kiwibaum said, there is a base penalty for being Hivemind and them not being.
And in 1.5 you can change Ethics. Unless you are a hivemind.