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Fernando Torres said:
Which AI are you working on ? Do you need some help ?

I'll test the new Russian and French AIs when I'll get the time, then I'll say what adjustement (if there is any) need to be done.

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While unbeleivably wasting 3 hours per day in bus to go to college, I'm begining to try to set-up some kind of post war storyline. I'm currently thinking about droping thw W.H.T.O. (since it does nothing at all anyway) and replacing it by an 'Internationale Socialiste', an off-map country leader of the socialist alliance that would get annexed by any major country (France, Germany, UK, Russia) to experiment a succesfull revolution, thus giving the said country the lead of the socialist gang. Any opinions?


I'd need some ideas for the following scenarios:

France, Russia & co victory

Germany, UK & co victory
 

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Interesting idea, I'm gonna start thinking of ideas for different victories by different alliances. And nice move in dropping the W.T.H.O., it's pretty much useless.

An idea for the Central Powers victory would consist of Germany getting the Baltic countries and Russia going into complete chaos with a civil war going on. France would lose Alsace-Lorraine and Nice, which would spark complete unrest and a communist coup. Unrest in India would continue and a possible new uprising could occur.

Now an idea for an Entente victory would be different, I suppose Germany would lose East Prussia to the Russians and its colonies in Africa to France. You could give Germany's Chinese holdings to Russia as well, but that's all up to you (it is anyway). The UK would be broken up into independent nations (a united Ireland, Scotland, Wales and England). There's a possibility in England become communist. Romania would be a major player in the Balkans along with Greece (which would control Turkey as well). The Middle East could be split up into independent nations ranging from being Absolutist to even being communist.
 
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Hi guys,

Congratulations on a great mod! I downloaded it yesterday and played about an hour into it up to 1937. The map changes are fantastic. Are you planning to do any more?

Cheers,

T.
 

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General_Grant said:
France, Russia & co victory

Germany, UK & co victory

Interesting thing, but we have to be quite careful about that. Remember, this is WWI just happening in 1930s-1940s, so I think there won't be huge territorial changes in Europe. Of course Germans would split Russia into small parts (Ukraine, White Ruthenia, United Baltic Duchy...) but I think nothing like putting Germany into two parts if they lose or pushing Russia back to the Asia. For example Germans and UK would get some small coastal provinces as naval bases from North America (we could add provinces for that...), as well as map of Africa would be drawn again.

By the way, how about adding some battlescenarios (like Qing China vs. Warlords)
 

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Miihkali said:
For example Germans and UK would get some small coastal provinces as naval bases from North America

meh, I'm still lobbying for Britain to get anything worthwhile in the peace treaties.

Currently they get Somalia and Afghanistan, and to add insult to injury, Germany puppets Belgium

Poor UK, "its ok Belgium, we'll go to war to defend you", then fight more aggressivly then Germany, and on the larger scale, finally prevail, and get some worthless provinces, and the nation they sacrificed for ends up being puppeted anyway :p

:( Its quite annoying as Britain ... seems abit of a waste :p, Maybe I shouldn't be complaining and get off my ass and do something about it :eek:o ... Its on my list

edit: Oh, and Russias' IC! AH! 398?! Thats more then Germany, the USA and Britain + Commonwealth. Maybe relax it abit, Germany struggles enough, adding a mega monster IC bear on his doorstep doesn't help.
 

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Maybe this have been noticed already, but I've had a few strange things happening to me while I'm playing as Russia. In one of the naval program events, the event had a description that suggested that it was an event for UK, however it gave me some boats, and 1 IC in St. Petersburg. The strange thing is that Ireland got 1 IC in Belfast as well.

Also I'm attacking Persia. They got a surrender event, but the follow-up event that I got, was called "Swedish defeat" and it triggered an event for Sweden.
 

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Carlito Gambino: I'll consider your suggestions.

Tegetthoff: unless I find somebody with the ability to mod the map there won't be more, as I don't have the talent/time/tools required to make this. But it would be great and I am sure that eventualy it will becomes even better. :)

Miihkali: Thats sure, and your suggestions fits well what happens in the post-war events. However what I am mostly needing is storylines for the post-war years (1943-44 onwards).

About battlescenarios: they seems nice, but are time-consuming. And time is precious. Also: if you win the war as Qing or the Warlords in a battle scenario, thats nice. But if you did it in the real scenario, then you will have the possibility to play with your victorious country trough the later years. Thats why I consider investing energy in the main scenario worth it much more.

Gigalocus: do you have anything to suggest Britain could win during the war? Considerating the UK's embitions are colonials (not going to give a piece of France proper to the Brits), the only countries it could get spoils from are Italy and France. I may consider destroying the French colonial empire a little bit more to give Britain some aditional spoils. Also some events like 'Churchill press for a totally free Belgium' or something along those lines, It'd be realistic.

Each version I am giving more and more severe penalties to Russia, I am not sure where to remove ICs now. Wich difficulty are you playing btw?


Comrade Kalle: Fixed the events, thanks for reporting. :)

Gigalocus: I changed it so the event can be triggered if France does not control Paris (instead of Germany controls Paris), so any country at war with France may fulfil that consdition (be it Germany, the UK, Austria, Spain, Italy, Sweden, Turkey or whatever).
 

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Gigalocus: do you have anything to suggest Britain could win during the war? Considerating the UK's embitions are colonials (not going to give a piece of France proper to the Brits), the only countries it could get spoils from are Italy and France. I may consider destroying the French colonial empire a little bit more to give Britain some aditional spoils. Also some events like 'Churchill press for a totally free Belgium' or something along those lines, It'd be realistic.

Defiantly an issue on Belgium.

But I would suggest a reversal of French ambitions at Fashoda, a link with the Red Sea and the Atlantic, France failed, and Britain didn't need to due to Cape to Cairo ambitions, but with an allied Germany in the way, Britain might price to unite Nigeria, with Sudan and its far western colonies.

New Caledonia, possibly to Australia, Tahiti, possibly to New Zealand.

And Vietnam, I know you like it going to Germany, but if Britain or Japan are the one struggeling for it, why should Germany get it?

And Madagascar, Britain claimed it early in the 1830s', and thought about it over later periods, possible given to Britain.

edit: Also, with Russia out of the way, another expedition into Tibet is highly likely.

Each version I am giving more and more severe penalties to Russia, I am not sure where to remove ICs now. Wich difficulty are you playing btw?

Normal/Agressive

Gigalocus: I changed it so the event can be triggered if France does not control Paris (instead of Germany controls Paris), so any country at war with France may fulfil that consdition (be it Germany, the UK, Austria, Spain, Italy, Sweden, Turkey or whatever).

Good, should make it easier for me :p

Also, when Afghanistan refues Russian claims, shouldn't it join the German alliance?

And is there even an event that asks for India back? I said I would give it up after the war, but noone seems to care about my promise
 
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Talking about the Chinese warlords, I know that there's no purpose on playing them, but, some victory events could be done for them. As we all know, in is a common Chinese "tradition", to imperial dynasties to be born out of great uprisings or civil wars (except the Republican uprising in 1911, of course). I'm thinking of a generic post-warlords conflict event, which triggers once you annex Qing, that lets you form:

- Republic of China (was CHC, I think. It would be a very dictatorial government)

-Restore Qing, under the Warlord's terms (this means as HoS a puppet Manchu Emperor, and as HoG the warlord in question, yet this option is very unlikely to happen, in my opinion)

-New whole dynasty, for this, it would be needed to use another country's tag, or an unused one, name the country "Imperial China", or something along these lines, dot its minister file with all the ministers of all the warlord's cabinets and use the country change effect.

Also, it would be cool to have Tibet(I was going to write Mongolia here, but an aggressive Mongolia would make the mod too Kaiserreichish, even if here's no Crazy Baron) something more to do than sitting there, maybe an aggressive and reformist Lama wants his country to take part in any near conflict, including but not limited to the Qing-Warlords conflict and the Great War, falling upon British India or expanding his domains at expense of the Tsar's lands. I know, a crazy idea, but we need a crazy HoS to compensate no Hitler or Stalin :p .
 

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I'd like to add that playing as Russia is quite challenging... In my game I stayed in France's alliance, and I built 3x20 IC before I started to produce infantry. I had no idea when there would be a war since it's my first time playing this mod, and I was lucky enough to deploy my troops and have them organize just in time :rofl:

Anyway, Romania, Italy, Greece, and Serbia joined our alliance, while Bulgaria joined the germans. Spain got eaten alive by UK (to start with) and later also France, once we went to war with Germany. As a result, Germany was allied with Austria, Bulgaria, Sweden and the Ottomans. I had taken Persia, so my border to the Ottomans wasn't well guarded, just a few mountain divisions, which couldn't put up a successful defense and found themselves to be pushed back. I eventually managed to stop the ottomans, and I took some provinces from Germany, only because I had the numbers on my side. That nasty -20 org thing hurts pretty much, I could tell you :p

So I had taken Königsberg, Elbing and Torun so I decided to stay and defend there while I built more troops and meanwhile advanced quite far into Austria, reaching Bratislava, Budapest and down towards the Adriatic sea before winter.

Sweden didn't put up much resistance, I had built 4 tactical bombers which helped a lot since I hadn't deployed more than ~4-5 divisions in Finland. Bombed the advancing troops to dust, but I couldn't break their defenses.

Further to the south, Austria (first) and Germany eventually crumbled to dust, my 45 divisions in Austria got redeployed back to St. Petersburg, which wasn't that bad because it meant I could use them against Germany ;)
The germans couldn't stop us anylonger, and soon after, they had lost all their positions on the european continent. That's when I got a CTD :mad:
Hadn't saved the game since the war started, so I turned off my computer and went to watch a movie instead :(
 

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General_Grant said:
Tegetthoff: unless I find somebody with the ability to mod the map there won't be more, as I don't have the talent/time/tools required to make this. But it would be great and I am sure that eventualy it will becomes even better. :)

Is Hannibal_Barca (I think it was him, wasn´t it) really completely out of the picture?

In any case, I am currently pushing for the 1914 mod to wake up and join in the effort of map-making (or of making suggestions for map changes). We are really working on the same map, just in a separate time-frame.

The changes to the A-H empire map layout really improves the feel of the game in this area. The main remaining problems are the German provinces of Metz and Thorn.
 

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Comrade Kalle: Well, I hope you still enjoyed your game. However, the best way to protect yourself from unexpected CTD (wich happens with any mods anyway) is to turn the 'autosave' option on.

Tegetthoff: Not really, but I doubt he will have the time to spare for this during the following months. Maybe I'll post an 'advertisment' thread just to ask if some peoples would be interested into helping me modding the map.
 

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Comrade Kalle said:
The chinese civil war was fun to watch as well, with all warlords vs Qing and yunnan. Qing won of course :/

I've played around 10 games with this mod now and the Quing's always wins the CCW, as they should :)
 

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Karaya said:
I've played around 10 games with this mod now and the Quing's always wins the CCW, as they should :)
I tried one game as Sichuan, I annexed Xibei and Yunnan, so I had abour 75 divisions when Qing finally decided to attack. I was somewhat successful first, but it didn't take long until they... well, smashed me :cool:
It's kind of boring though, that they are so powerful. I think that their IC could be lowered a bit so the CCW could at least be a little bit interesting... No need to do anything with the warlords though, they are crappy enough anyway, even without lowering their IC ;)
 

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in this mode dose germany still controle north east papa newgine and the group of pasific Ilands arond it seeing that they wode not have lost them to Australian forces During WW1 the same for its african colanys that wher lost to the uk france porchagle and south africa (i am not 100% positve about south africa) :confused:

sorry for the bad spelling