General_Grant said:
Acctually it don't really matter which nation you play, an AAr is anyway the best way to get attention to a mod. And I'm sure they'll all be interresting.
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Acctually it don't really matter which nation you play, an AAr is anyway the best way to get attention to a mod. And I'm sure they'll all be interresting.
A few cents more
Hi all. OK since the Ottomans are out and I am playing them myself now, I say Qing China for the same reasons. You can have fun with them while we watch how the rest of the world unfolds without your influence changing things too much.
Hi all. OK since the Ottomans are out and I am playing them myself now, I say Qing China for the same reasons. You can have fun with them while we watch how the rest of the world unfolds without your influence changing things too much.
Thats going to be an hard choice:
- Sweden:1
- UK:1
- Qing:1
- Balkan:1 (yeah but wich one?)
- Austria:1
Of course Austria really interest me but I have already written an AAR with them.
As Sweden or any Balkanic nation, I'd be close of the action but still now powerfull enough to influence it very much (wich is a good thing). I never touched the UK very much in any game, it could be fun to try it out... Qing is also nice but a bit dull as its not tweaked yet (too powerfull in my opinion).
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Weygander: i'll think about each of your ideas, i'd be long to tell you my opinion on all of them right now.
- Sweden:1
- UK:1
- Qing:1
- Balkan:1 (yeah but wich one?)
- Austria:1
Of course Austria really interest me but I have already written an AAR with them.
As Sweden or any Balkanic nation, I'd be close of the action but still now powerfull enough to influence it very much (wich is a good thing). I never touched the UK very much in any game, it could be fun to try it out... Qing is also nice but a bit dull as its not tweaked yet (too powerfull in my opinion).
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Weygander: i'll think about each of your ideas, i'd be long to tell you my opinion on all of them right now.
I think it depends on the events. If there are more China events, than the Qing could be a cool country to show off. As it is, however, I think Sweden would be the best choice.
If Qing is controlled by a player, it grows very powerful, the AI doesn't seems to use it's advantages well.
On the other side, they need to be polished
Oh, and sorry, I forgot completely my commitment to this mod. Do you still need ideas for Spain? Well, here goes one, it's a bit silly but, meh:
The King Alfonso XIII (King of Spain in this mod), was also on the line of succession in the legitimist French monarchy branch(To make it clear, He was a descendant from the last "true" King of France, like nowadays King of Spain).
With that on mind, he could provoke a civil war on France(the legitimist side would have the pretender of that time, not Alfonso XIII) , or at least instigate dissent against the Napoleon House. That could be one of the different ways to WWI(Or maybe not, if the legitimist coup and/or civil war triumphs) , with UK and Germany siding with Spain (Even better, Spain could be the "Poland" of this war, they even have the same colour!
) and France and Russia against them.
Well, and now America, in the north, a very oppressive Lindbergh government, could make way for a Mormon uprising, even a Jewish one (Who knows,the promised land of Israel could be anywhere, In any place where a Jewish soul still yearns...), In south America you could have a mad Colombian dictator trying to rebuild the Gran Colombia(If you don't know about this, search in Wikipedia, Gran Colombia was, Colombia+Ecuador and Venezuela), Peru and Bolivia joining again in a confederation, against a possibly emerging Argentina who eats up like sweets the little states of Paraguay and Uruguay, and in the end, a clash between the alliance of the Bogotá-Buenos Aires axis (Argentina and Gran Colombia) vs the American Democratic alliance (Peruan-Bolivian Confederation and Brazil, who would join under the threat of being eaten up by the two dictators).
Oh, and Chile should be scapegoat of this war, the "Poland", as I always say (No offence polish people).
But these are only ideas, I'll try to apply some to events this weekend, if you see them OK.
On the other side, they need to be polished
Oh, and sorry, I forgot completely my commitment to this mod. Do you still need ideas for Spain? Well, here goes one, it's a bit silly but, meh:
The King Alfonso XIII (King of Spain in this mod), was also on the line of succession in the legitimist French monarchy branch(To make it clear, He was a descendant from the last "true" King of France, like nowadays King of Spain).
With that on mind, he could provoke a civil war on France(the legitimist side would have the pretender of that time, not Alfonso XIII) , or at least instigate dissent against the Napoleon House. That could be one of the different ways to WWI(Or maybe not, if the legitimist coup and/or civil war triumphs) , with UK and Germany siding with Spain (Even better, Spain could be the "Poland" of this war, they even have the same colour!
) and France and Russia against them.Well, and now America, in the north, a very oppressive Lindbergh government, could make way for a Mormon uprising, even a Jewish one (Who knows,the promised land of Israel could be anywhere, In any place where a Jewish soul still yearns...), In south America you could have a mad Colombian dictator trying to rebuild the Gran Colombia(If you don't know about this, search in Wikipedia, Gran Colombia was, Colombia+Ecuador and Venezuela), Peru and Bolivia joining again in a confederation, against a possibly emerging Argentina who eats up like sweets the little states of Paraguay and Uruguay, and in the end, a clash between the alliance of the Bogotá-Buenos Aires axis (Argentina and Gran Colombia) vs the American Democratic alliance (Peruan-Bolivian Confederation and Brazil, who would join under the threat of being eaten up by the two dictators).
Oh, and Chile should be scapegoat of this war, the "Poland", as I always say
(No offence polish people).But these are only ideas, I'll try to apply some to events this weekend, if you see them OK.
The idea regarding the royal families and the possibility of a legitimist coup seems unprobable... Spain have interests into remaining quiet, it have to needs to annoy an imperialist France.
The reason why I made Spain as a monarchy is than the 1917 crisis (wich did not removed the king but weakened him) and all the stuff with Primo de Riveira never happened. But a Republican uprising is still possible and a short civil war may end into a triumph for France (Alphonso could have traded the full sovereignty of his country in exchange of a full alliance with France and their support against the rebels?...). I see very well France getting out of this with Catalonia annexed, and Spain proper as a puppet... then Alfonson could be betrayed as Napoléon IV would probably seek to get rid of a Bourbon. Then Alfonso would flee to a British-backed Portugal than may join the Great War when it begins.
That was my vision for Spain, as a Spanish you probably can tell me if its realistic?
I was already thinking of a large scale South-American conflagration, with Brazil and Argentina as local alliance leaders. But wich side would Brazil join? And Argentina? As the war starts every South American nation could join in by pressing its claims on its neighbor. But then the USA would certainly intervene...
The reason why I made Spain as a monarchy is than the 1917 crisis (wich did not removed the king but weakened him) and all the stuff with Primo de Riveira never happened. But a Republican uprising is still possible and a short civil war may end into a triumph for France (Alphonso could have traded the full sovereignty of his country in exchange of a full alliance with France and their support against the rebels?...). I see very well France getting out of this with Catalonia annexed, and Spain proper as a puppet... then Alfonson could be betrayed as Napoléon IV would probably seek to get rid of a Bourbon. Then Alfonso would flee to a British-backed Portugal than may join the Great War when it begins.
That was my vision for Spain, as a Spanish you probably can tell me if its realistic?
I was already thinking of a large scale South-American conflagration, with Brazil and Argentina as local alliance leaders. But wich side would Brazil join? And Argentina? As the war starts every South American nation could join in by pressing its claims on its neighbor. But then the USA would certainly intervene...
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If I would choose, I would go for Argentina joining the Central Powers, considering her close relations with Germany. The Falkland Islands might cause a problem, but I am sure Argentina would be prepared to give up claims on them in exchange for dominating South AmericaGeneral_Grant said:
Rekjavik said:
I have already tough about it, Brazil will be with the CP (on the side of Germany, Britain and Portugal) and Argentina will be with the entente (with France, Spain and against the Brits). Argentina also have an important Italian influence if I remember well.
I for one would like to suggest that Sweden might gain some more "might". I found it very likely that Russia will just chew them up in a few weeks and Swedens part in the war would be pointless.
Maybe for some flavor there can be an early conflict in Scandinavia where Sweden gain some power (intervention into an Norwegian conflict or maybe an Scandinavian Union)
Quite ahistorical but might be fun.
Maybe for some flavor there can be an early conflict in Scandinavia where Sweden gain some power (intervention into an Norwegian conflict or maybe an Scandinavian Union)
Quite ahistorical but might be fun.
General_Grant said:The reason why I made Spain as a monarchy is than the 1917 crisis (wich did not removed the king but weakened him) and all the stuff with Primo de Riveira never happened. But a Republican uprising is still possible and a short civil war may end into a triumph for France (Alphonso could have traded the full sovereignty of his country in exchange of a full alliance with France and their support against the rebels?...). I see very well France getting out of this with Catalonia annexed, and Spain proper as a puppet... then Alfonson could be betrayed as Napoléon IV would probably seek to get rid of a Bourbon. Then Alfonso would flee to a British-backed Portugal than may join the Great War when it begins.
That was my vision for Spain, as a Spanish you probably can tell me if its realistic?
If a Strong France had "bullied" a even weaker King Alfonso, he would have surely ceded all the necessary territory and sovereignty , he was described as a feeble (That's why Franco didn't restore him as King) and impotent King, a very weak leader.
And France should Get both Catalonia and Euskadi (Basque Country), as both of then have been French at some point in the history.
France would surely annex Spain, (they would have learned the lesson from the Napoleonic wars, in which they installed one of Napoleon's familiars as King), and the King Alfonso XIII, or maybe his son, Juan III, would set up for a resistance movement in Spain, recalling the Napoleonic era where Spain was also occupied by the French and was largely liberated by Spanish guerrillas.
If you want, you can also make a different country named "Napoleonic Spain" or Espagne, and make an event where the player must choose to annex Spain and keep it, or setup this with a member of the Napoleon house as HoS.
Out of curiousity how will the balance of power at sea play out? Is it likely to be a challenge for the Royal Navy?
DarkReborn: I had just in mind a simple puppet you know... making a new country is complex. In what would it be different from the original SPA tag?... What would be its flag (I have an idea than have nothing to do with Napoleon)? If you can provide me with some more infos maybe I could begging setting that up.
If I understand you agree than Alfonso was weak enough to accept his country to be puppeted and some parts to be sceded. At least we can beging to make events for the short civil war (where France will directly intervene and certainly get out of it with the control of Spain).
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Regarding the Royal Navy it probably won't be a challenge... the French navy will be powerfull, but with the Germans on your side you have little to fear. Only the Mediterranean may be more difficult to control with the France/Italy duo than will condemn you to prudence.
If I understand you agree than Alfonso was weak enough to accept his country to be puppeted and some parts to be sceded. At least we can beging to make events for the short civil war (where France will directly intervene and certainly get out of it with the control of Spain).
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Regarding the Royal Navy it probably won't be a challenge... the French navy will be powerfull, but with the Germans on your side you have little to fear. Only the Mediterranean may be more difficult to control with the France/Italy duo than will condemn you to prudence.
Some playtest results
Hi all. I have played a game as the Ottomans, my first one. I did real well and ended up with Greece and all of Saudi Arabia. They can do well and should be real fun for players. Imagine my surprise when my next game as AH saw the Ottomans collapse while at war with the Greeks. I did well against the Russians when the war broke out but, the German AI was getting creamed so eventually the Russian numbers took me out. So next I am playing a game as Germany to see if I can stop the Russians. I have less than a year until the war starts but, I have Spain, Rumania, England as allies and I should also get Argentina and Japan real soon. I think that may be the key to stopping the Russians because there numbers are huge. I will let you know how the war goes. The first time you play a country is often the best because you do not know what will happen and you cannot play the system to do better.
Hi all. I have played a game as the Ottomans, my first one. I did real well and ended up with Greece and all of Saudi Arabia. They can do well and should be real fun for players. Imagine my surprise when my next game as AH saw the Ottomans collapse while at war with the Greeks. I did well against the Russians when the war broke out but, the German AI was getting creamed so eventually the Russian numbers took me out. So next I am playing a game as Germany to see if I can stop the Russians. I have less than a year until the war starts but, I have Spain, Rumania, England as allies and I should also get Argentina and Japan real soon. I think that may be the key to stopping the Russians because there numbers are huge. I will let you know how the war goes. The first time you play a country is often the best because you do not know what will happen and you cannot play the system to do better.
General_Grant said:
This one, Spain's actual flag with the Napoleon Coat of Arms instead of Bourbon's one. Oh, and if you have no use for it, you could use the EUS(Euskadi) tag.
I made this a long time ago, maybe with replacing Portugal's CoA in the middle to the Napoleonic one it could be used somewhere?
I know than this is very 'Carlist' but maybe they could have a role in the story too?
I know than this is very 'Carlist' but maybe they could have a role in the story too?