A Paradox Christmas Carol

[jamhaw]

Cultures are not cast in Stone at the moment so I really can't comment on the specifics. What I can say is no matter what we do it probably won't be enough .

Flag and names work like this. There is a default flag that is uses and then we can define additional ones for each government form. If we do not define a name or a flag it will just use the defualt one. So if Cuba has no communist flag defined it keeps the current one.

How are you planning to handle the different flags used by the supporters of the Bonapartes and the Bourbon supporters? Will there be any way to insure that they use different flags (and maybe different names like Empire of France and Kingdom of France perhaps) or will it be like in Vicotoria I?

 

[DarthJF]

How are you planning to handle the different flags used by the supporters of the Bonapartes and the Bourbon supporters? Will there be any way to insure that they use different flags (and maybe different names like Empire of France and Kingdom of France perhaps) or will it be like in Vicotoria I?

Last dev diary shows a different flag for a fascist British Republic, so my guess is that at least for major nations there will be a number of alternate flags in case of a reqime change.

 

[Markusw7]

Last dev diary shows a different flag for a fascist British Republic, so my guess is that at least for major nations there will be a number of alternate flags in case of a reqime change.

I think he means will there be different flags depending on whether the monarchists are Bourbons or Bonapartists.

 

[DarthJF]

One can hope.

 

[Filou]

[...] should Quebec be independent (I am not sure if it is even a revolter at the moment)

That would be quite a shame if it's not.
In all the time frames covered by PI, this is the one where there was an actual constitution drafted, a political party that made demands to the Crown via the parliament, and finally took action on the ground to act on seceding which was put down militarily.

Granted the chances of success were rather slim. If Britain would have been tied down somewhere maybe there would have been less troops to oppose the rebellion. But all in all I feel that it would be rather disappointing that the UK gets a free ride in Canada regarding possible revolting nations.

 

[GregoryTheBruce]

Will arabs have a pan arab state, while the varying existing arab states today will be the aforementioned "regional states". I think Pan Arabism was common at the time. Likewise will their be a religious version of it called "the Caliphate"?

Or perhaps a Caliphate would get cores on all Muslim lands as well?

Pan-Arabism didn't exist as a political philosophy until the 20th century. The first real movement was the Ba'ath Party, founded in 1940. Nevertheless, it would make sense to me to have a large Arab culture group, including Maghrebi, Egyptian, Mashreqi, and Bedouin or something. It kind of depends on how Paradox decides to do states with weak national identities. Should there be a difference in culture between, say, Jordan and Syria? Syria and Lebanon? They should certainly be closer than Syria and Morocco, which would imply either multiple culture groups or larger cultures (like the ones I listed).

A pan-Islamic state wouldn't work with the culture-group model outlined here.

 

[JoeGiavani]

Ok, but let's say there is a socialist rebellion in India. Is not more logical that they try to proclaim their independence from the UK (in a 'pan-national' basis) rather than turn it socialist?

Socialism is a democratic ideology. So it would be an independant democratic india with a ruling socialist party.

 

[Kanil]

But culture groups are linked to tags. So if we want a country to form, say Romania which did, then we need to tie that tag to a culture group. Any culture inside the culture group can then form the country. Another upshot of this is that Italy can't form, but they will be able to become Romania so it isn't all bad.

Rome would make a good capital for Romania, would it not?

 

[unmerged(183381)]

Will there be a jewish culture group? COnsiting of Ashkenazi Sephardim and Mizrahi (not in Vicky 1 lumped together with Sephardim but quite different histories) Or will they all just be lumped into one Jewish Ethnic Group? will there even be a jewish ethnic group or just pops of lets say North Germans with Judaism as their religion?

I hope you keep Jewish Ethnic groups and maybe an option to create an Early Israel. Zionism was conceived during the Victoria Time Frame.

Even more you wouldnt put the different jewish groups lets say Ashkenazi with a German or Slavic culture group or a Sephardic with an Arab or Iberian?

 

[King]

How are you planning to handle the different flags used by the supporters of the Bonapartes and the Bourbon supporters? Will there be any way to insure that they use different flags (and maybe different names like Empire of France and Kingdom of France perhaps) or will it be like in Vicotoria I?

That is beyond us. Empire of France could not be a consitutional monarchy, or even and absolute monarchy. Although we could make a presidential dictatorship.

 

[King]

Will there be a jewish culture group? COnsiting of Ashkenazi Sephardim and Mizrahi (not in Vicky 1 lumped together with Sephardim but quite different histories) Or will they all just be lumped into one Jewish Ethnic Group? will there even be a jewish ethnic group or just pops of lets say North Germans with Judaism as their religion?

I hope you keep Jewish Ethnic groups and maybe an option to create an Early Israel. Zionism was conceived during the Victoria Time Frame.

Even more you wouldnt put the different jewish groups lets say Ashkenazi with a German or Slavic culture group or a Sephardic with an Arab or Iberian?

As far as I am concerned Juidaism is a religion not a culture.

 

[King]

That would be quite a shame if it's not.
In all the time frames covered by PI, this is the one where there was an actual constitution drafted, a political party that made demands to the Crown via the parliament, and finally took action on the ground to act on seceding which was put down militarily.

Granted the chances of success were rather slim. If Britain would have been tied down somewhere maybe there would have been less troops to oppose the rebellion. But all in all I feel that it would be rather disappointing that the UK gets a free ride in Canada regarding possible revolting nations.

The number of countries that make it in depend on two things. Firstly time to set them up properly and secondly performance. Even inactive countries still use up CPU, people complained about the performance of HoI3 and let me tell you POPs are not cheap on CPU either. So we may be forced to cut countries to improve perfromance.

 

[Dark Knight]

As far as I am concerned Judaism is a religion not a culture.

Yes, but he wanted to know what cultures would exist specifically for Jewish POPs. For example, Victoria 1 had Jews in Russian Poland be of Ashkenazic culture, since it wouldn't make sense to label them culturally Polish or Russian.

 

[unmerged(91061)]

The Pan-Arabism question is an interesting one, because if you go from Morocco to Baghdad to Muscat the incremental changes in culture from country to country would not seem significant enough to warrant excluding one from the other's unified nation, but when you reach the end you realise that including every Arab culture under the one nation is a bit of a stretch.

The solution in my mind is to make all Arab cultures part of the same Culture group, making Pan-Arabism possible but highly unlikely without the Ottoman Empire falling to pieces, which is also quite unlikely.

 

[SA_Avenger]

Interesting surprise dev diary, thx King
One thing, let's say Prussia has the decision to form Germany, will it's name switch to Germany without a choice (new name from the culture tag) or will it be called something like "Big empire of Prussia"? (name from the country who launched the switch)
Asking because if it just becomes germany no matter who creates it, aren't we losing the flavor of making it happen differently (if bavaria or austria create germany you won't see any difference once it's done?)

 

[King]

Interesting surprise dev diary, thx King
One thing, let's say Prussia has the decision to form Germany, will it's name switch to Germany without a choice (new name from the culture tag) or will it be called something like "Big empire of Prussia"? (name from the country who launched the switch)
Asking because if it just becomes germany no matter who creates it, aren't we losing the flavor of making it happen differently (if bavaria or austria create germany you won't see any difference once it's done?)

If you form a Union Tag your tag will change and thus your name. So no matter who forms Germany you will be Germany.

 

[SA_Avenger]

k thx for answer

 

[CatalanNation]

I was just reading the thread, and I think we owe a big THANKS to King for the amount of time he's spending from his vacations to answer our questions almost at the hour. That's what makes Paradox so great.

 

[Sute]{h]

Ok, but let's say there is a socialist rebellion in India. Is not more logical that they try to proclaim their independence from the UK (in a 'pan-national' basis) rather than turn it socialist?

I think you will see a difference between the pan-national rebels and the independance seeking rebels. Odds are that the rebels spawning in India will be independance seeking rebels rather than ideological socialists rebels. Of course these rebels might spawn from a socialist POP.

 

[unmerged(91061)]

I was just reading the thread, and I think we owe a big THANKS to King for the amount of time he's spending from his vacations to answer our questions almost at the hour. That's what makes Paradox so great.

Quoted for Truth,
I've been spending time on other GameDeveloper's forums and Paradox really is the best for community relations. They answer questions, take complaints seriously and know when to stick to their guns.