a new update for victoria 2 EVER or victoria 3

[Will Steel]

Vicky3 will happen. The only question is when.

Right after HoI4 I hope.

If there isn't a champion, all fans should group up and rebel, drag the dev gods from their eternal palaces to the computers and give them the title of champions, whether they want it or not.

 

[IconOfEvi]

So...rise up and gutter crown Paradox? Sounds like a plan!

 

[grommile]

as somebody said, that is just a stupid lie - theres no way out of paradox nobody wants to make V3

Where I live, accusing someone of lying is libel/slander unless you can back it up with evidence.

Now, the rumour I've seen on these forums is that there is indeed someone at PDS who wants to write Vic3 and has big ideas for it, but they're busy.

 

[Will Steel]

Where I live, accusing someone of lying is libel/slander unless you can back it up with evidence.

Now, the rumour I've seen on these forums is that there is indeed someone at PDS who wants to write Vic3 and has big ideas for it, but they're busy.

In that case, fetch your pitchforks and knives, because rebellion is the only option then.

We shall raise the red-n-black flag high and put it on all over Sweden until Vicky3 comes out.

 

[Mikalos]

Where I live, accusing someone of lying is libel/slander unless you can back it up with evidence.

Now, the rumour I've seen on these forums is that there is indeed someone at PDS who wants to write Vic3 and has big ideas for it, but they're busy.

and where i live, i can call somebody a liar and my government won't care if yours doesn't like me for it. We've even had somebody yell YOU LIE right at our own leader and he sure isn't in jail for libel.
oh and, "The person who can head V3 is busy" =/= "there is no champion for V3", so by default, they lied when they said that.

 

[grommile]

We've even had somebody yell YOU LIE right at our own leader and he sure isn't in jail for libel.

In my book, the politician who sues someone for shouting "you lie" - even if he has grounds for doing so - is a damn fool.

 

[Naselus]

In my book, the politician who sues someone for shouting "you lie" - even if he has grounds for doing so - is a damn fool.

I seem to recall Robert Maxwell tried to sue Have I Got News For You (a satirical British TV show) for calling him a 'greedy lying s**t', and lost. Which meant that, in the eyes of the law, pretty much everyone was entitled to refer to Maxwell as a greedy lying s**t.

 

[Rio]

I seem to recall Robert Maxwell tried to sue Have I Got News For You (a satirical British TV show) for calling him a 'greedy lying s**t', and lost. Which meant that, in the eyes of the law, pretty much everyone was entitled to refer to Maxwell as a greedy lying s**t.

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Perhaps the view of that court was, then, that he was - which obviated it having to do its proper work.

Of course it little profits even the idle to sue others for something as ubiquitous as slander. Unless the slandered is one overly endowed with vanity (a particularly virulent if pathetic form of ego) anyone who has far too many other more momentous things to do with their finite mortal coil will simply be making a wise time-efficiency choice by choosing away from time-consuming nonsense. (Just as I have probably made a bad one by reading and commenting here. ) ]

On Topic

As a V2 addict I would like to say I would take any work on the series positively, but advances in code and third party tech make using the old code as anything other than an occasional reference pointless.

As a customer support and beta tester of another developer with similar choices, I can only suggest the developers want to use new code even MORE than the consumers want them to. It is only a question of the accountants' view, or whether the dev's still have that camera footage of the last 'naked laser tag' in the accounting office...

 

[Mikeboy]

The lack of additional scenarios is simply because you can't make them functional, tbh. Adding a start date in Vicky isn't like adding a start date to EU. You can't just check who owns what and then paint the map differently; that way leads to a borderline unplayable scenario because the economy tanks instantly. While I know some players like to think that it would have been simple because the scenario existed in V1 so 'the research had been done', the truth is that the research doesn't matter remotely - it's the balance work which needs to happen after everything's in place which takes forever in V2. The more scenarios you add, the harder it is to balance everything else - just by having two start dates, you've basically removed half the tools you can use to balance it because now changing goods prices or production output has to work in two wildly different economic set-ups.

Clearly the way to deal with this is to make your new scenario start on September 4, 1929.

 

[Chad Johnson]

I still think they should expand V2 instead of thinking ahead to a V3. Namely, they should make the code more moddable for the likes of PDM. V3 might as well ask the PDM creators to volunteer as (lay) co-developers on the project from start to finish.

**cough**Manga Mundi and East vs West**cough**
I forget if we are allowed to mention those or not.

 

[Naselus]

**cough**Manga Mundi and East vs West**cough**
I forget if we are allowed to mention those or not.

There's also examples of modder-made successes like Arsenal of Democracy and Darkest Hour (which was itself made by the team behind EvW). Besides, there's a big difference between signing me on as a contractor under Paradox management and just handing the IP over to me to make the whole game. Quite a few of the Paradox scripters were modders before they were hired, so technically HOI3 is a modder-made game to pretty much the same extent that me working on V3 would be. So are all V2's expansions, since both Wiz and Dark were modders before they signed up and both contributed to various parts.

Anyway, while modder-made games have a pretty bad hit rate which has gotten worse in recent years, it's not really that much worse than the general level of cancellations in the games industry. Until very recently, the majority of all computer games were cancelled before they were even announced, either killed off early in the design stages or else just not funded. Crowd sourcing has changed that, which is why proper, talented, fully-qualified professional games developers can release things like Godus without a publisher intervening to prevent it.

 

[austrianemporer]

Clearly the way to deal with this is to make your new scenario start on September 4, 1929.

**cough**Manga Mundi and East vs West**cough**
I forget if we are allowed to mention those or not.

There's also examples of modder-made successes like Arsenal of Democracy and Darkest Hour (which was itself made by the team behind EvW). Besides, there's a big difference between signing me on as a contractor under Paradox management and just handing the IP over to me to make the whole game. Quite a few of the Paradox scripters were modders before they were hired, so technically HOI3 is a modder-made game to pretty much the same extent that me working on V3 would be. So are all V2's expansions, since both Wiz and Dark were modders before they signed up and both contributed to various parts.

Anyway, while modder-made games have a pretty bad hit rate which has gotten worse in recent years, it's not really that much worse than the general level of cancellations in the games industry. Until very recently, the majority of all computer games were cancelled before they were even announced, either killed off early in the design stages or else just not funded. Crowd sourcing has changed that, which is why proper, talented, fully-qualified professional games developers can release things like Godus without a publisher intervening to prevent it.

it seems no matter what i'm doing rebels are going to kill sicily, any advices how to avoid rebellions? (i'm not putting any high taxes or traffit, i even announced liberal government)

THIS IS NECROMANCY, STOP PERFORMING IT PEOPLE.

This thread has been dead for more than 6 months when Mikeboy decided to perform necromancy on this thread. Please do not perform necromancy.

 

[Laexio]

how profitable was victoria 2 for paradox, compared to similar titles?

i see similar numbers of people currently playing hoi3 and victoria 2 on steam

 

[austrianemporer]

how profitable was victoria 2 for paradox, compared to similar titles?

i see similar numbers of people currently playing hoi3 and victoria 2 on steam

Don't post on this thread which Paradox Forum rules should be dead.

 

[Laexio]

Don't post on this thread which Paradox Forum rules should be dead.

eh?

 

[austrianemporer]

eh?

This thread was dead for more than six months and then some people decided to revive it which is against site rules. How they even found this, I have no idea.

 

[Laexio]

This thread was dead for more than six months and then some people decided to revive it which is against site rules. How they even found this, I have no idea.

i don't care; it's an interesting thread