The longer you have to work on a plan, the better you can perform it. Maps, sand tables, enemy dispostion, etc.
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A new interview with Johan about HOI4.
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The longer you have to work on a plan, the better you can perform it. Maps, sand tables, enemy dispostion, etc.
Yeah, pretty much the same way you can order hasty attacks and planned attacks (or whatever they're called) in War in the East. I like this, personally, if there is one thing I would like to see explored more in games like this it's devs experimenting with taking away some of the player's "omnipotence" and "omniscience". Having to let your troops plan before you actually execute maneuvers is an interesting example of this.
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...And what if the manual plan is also something I have been planning and preparing for a long time? For example, manually placing my divisions right where I want them on the eve of invasion, clearing supply lines and ordering my industry to focus on incoming heavy casualties? And tweaking my plan for over a month or two to maximise potential and minimise casualties?
Isn't that the same thing, but done manually, like in HoI Darkest Hour and to some extent HoI3? If so, those bonuses are unreasonable...
Isn't that the same thing, but done manually, like in HoI Darkest Hour and to some extent HoI3? If so, those bonuses are unreasonable...
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...And what if the manual plan is also something I have been planning and preparing for a long time? For example, manually placing my divisions right where I want them on the eve of invasion, clearing supply lines and ordering my industry to focus on incoming heavy casualties? And tweaking my plan for over a month or two to maximise potential and minimise casualties?
Isn't that the same thing, but done manually, like in HoI Darkest Hour and to some extent HoI3? If so, those bonuses are unreasonable...
Making a battleplan is the way that you tell your troops about your plans. All what you described(and more) is basically being abstracted into making a battleplan and waiting for the planning to finish. If you don't do that you can still do your invasion, but at a reduced efectiveness because your generals and armies didn't have time to prepare for it. Think about D-day. How many years of preparation did it take to do the landings?
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...And what if the manual plan is also something I have been planning and preparing for a long time? For example, manually placing my divisions right where I want them on the eve of invasion, clearing supply lines and ordering my industry to focus on incoming heavy casualties? And tweaking my plan for over a month or two to maximise potential and minimise casualties?
Isn't that the same thing, but done manually, like in HoI Darkest Hour and to some extent HoI3? If so, those bonuses are unreasonable...
Just by placing unit on the front line doesnt automaticaly mean they are planing to do X Y Z. The battle planer, and bonus, is something you set for futrure operations. If you plan on using these 2, 4, 10 divisions to attack on this front, and to advance to this point, you should allow the AI to take this idea and give you the bonus. Giving you a better chance for success.
Your "manual plan" is something you, not the AI, are planing. Thus no bonus. You are not using the bonus built into the game mechanics.
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Thanks, guys. I guess it can be counted as an overall heavily abstracted depiction of the situation.
Now, it makes me wonder what happens if we fight completely without battle plans. Since AI spies cannot discover something that doesn't exist and cannot prepare for it, I hope it is intelligent enough to know that if Germany has put millions over millions on the border with Soviet Union but hasn't invaded, it doesn't mean there won't be an invasion and it can relax and send troops away..for example.
Now, it makes me wonder what happens if we fight completely without battle plans. Since AI spies cannot discover something that doesn't exist and cannot prepare for it, I hope it is intelligent enough to know that if Germany has put millions over millions on the border with Soviet Union but hasn't invaded, it doesn't mean there won't be an invasion and it can relax and send troops away..for example.
Tech support is for people that can't get it to run, not for people that found a bugWhy don't you knock it off with them negative waves?
Why don't you dig how beautiful it HoI4 is ? Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful about there being no CTDs or game breaking bugs?
For the most part it's issues with the users PC not the game.
as for saying things about the game...
Tech support is for people that can't get it to run, not for people that found a bug
For the most part it's issues with the users PC not the game.
as for saying things about the game...
Ok. Amended, right a propa now
Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves?
Why don't you dig how beautiful it HoI4 is ? Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful about the fourth coming getting closer every day?
I guarantee that every day that passes brings the release of HOI4 one day closer.
Good enough?
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I need to go see my local tarot card reader and invoke the blessing of the gods and goddesses.
So you're guaranteeing the world won't end between now and HoI4's launch? I'm good with that, although I'm now even more in awe of your powers
.Cheers for posting the interview @afghanrabbit, an interesting read
. The supply situation sounds right odd (it's almost in complete contradiction of what we were told vis-a-vis fleets in the supply DD) but I think it's best to wait and see at this point.- 2
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If you want manual control, just build army's of 2 -5 division and give them all there unique plan. That way you do manage a lot yourself, and you can get the bonus from preparing.
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To have to do that is even more micromanaging than HOI3 in some respects, and not possible for less powerful countries when you have to 'pay' to get more generals to lead them. :/
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That would be even more micromanagement I think. Instead of having your entire army under AI command, you have to create and manage little command groups everywhere, rebuild their plans every few minutes...
Imagine playing HoI3 as Soviet Union in 1943-44, and putting all your divisions under AI command (not the corps or above, just divisions) one by one. And issuing them all new targets and attack/defend/prepare priorities and having to pause every few seconds. And carry out every small expedition and frontier-management in the next 6 hours to progress a few months.
It would be too tedious.
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This is true. Just like anything that hits water becomes a little wetter.
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If it does, I don't think anyone will remember...
water hitting water does not become a little wetter.
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The main thing is. It's happening. We will blink and we'll be refreshing for the download.