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I'll do some testing this week, and change the York and Lancaster files accordingly.

The problem is I never really understood a lot of the syntax - but I shall persevere. :eek:o
 

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using the new ribbon22 HYW file for ENG, i have concluded its a bit more detrimental for FRA. of 10 games tested, Orlenais was lost on all 10 games
1 by HAU
2 by BUR
3 by ENG
4 by LOR

lyonais was also lost 4 times to BUR

But in no games was FRA eliminated and they did form normally ( even though in 1 game they annexed all of BUR)


as an example from the last test (current) , england lost 3 french territories but only regain 2 , two years later ( see text below .........bold)

name = "January 29, 1427 : §YDauphiné had Jean of Orleans Count of Dunois."
name = "February 7, 1427 : Muscovy entered a Royal Marriage with Tver."
name = "March 1, 1427 : §YLithuania had Tver accepts the agreement."
name = "March 1, 1427 : Tver became Vassals of Lithuania."
name = "March 1, 1427 : Tver left the Military Alliance she had with Muscovy."
name = "March 1, 1427 : Tver broke the Royal Marriage she had with Golden Horde."
name = "March 1, 1427 : Tver broke the Royal Marriage she had with Muscovy."
name = "March 2, 1427 : §YCyprus had The Rescue of Janus."
name = "March 2, 1427 : §YMamluks had Cyprus Expedition."
name = "March 2, 1427 : Cyprus became Vassals of Mamluks."
name = "March 2, 1427 : Cyprus left the Military Alliance she had with Order of Saint John."
name = "March 5, 1427 : Dauphiné accepted peace with England on the following terms: Calais to Dauphiné, Gascogne to "
name = "Brittany, Caux to Dauphiné & Normandie to Dauphiné. "
name = "March 15, 1427 : §YDauphiné had Decline of Calais."
name = "March 18, 1427 : Brittany has cancelled the treaty of military access they had in Foix."
name = "March 19, 1427 : §YLithuania had Consequences of the agreement with Tver."
name = "March 19, 1427 : Tver entered a Military Alliance with Lithuania and Poland."
name = "March 19, 1427 : §YTver had Consequences of the agreement with Lithuania."
name = "March 19, 1427 : Tver cancelled the Vassalization she had with Lithuania."
name = "April 17, 1427 : Filips I rose to the throne in Brabant."
name = "April 20, 1427 : §YBrabant went with §WRenounce the Dutch Wittelsbach possessions§Y in Consequence of the death of "
name = "Jan IV."
name = "April 20, 1427 : §YBurgundy had The Dutch Wittelsbach possessions."
name = "April 22, 1427 : §YCastile had The morisco royal guard."
name = "May 6, 1427 : §YEngland went with §WThis campaign is in the interests of the Treaty of Troyes§Y in The push for "
name = "Guyenne."
name = "May 6, 1427 : England declared war upon Dauphiné."
name = "May 6, 1427 : Connaught joined the war on the same side as England in their war against Dauphiné."
name = "May 6, 1427 : Leinster joined the war on the same side as England and Connaught in their war against Dauphiné."
name = "May 6, 1427 : Ulster joined the war on the same side as England, Connaught and Leinster in their war against "
name = "Dauphiné."
name = "May 6, 1427 : Burgundy dishonored a Military Alliance she had with England, Connaught, Leinster, Ulster and "
name = "Brabant."
name = "May 6, 1427 : Brabant joined the war on the same side as England, Connaught, Leinster and Ulster in their war "
name = "against Dauphiné."
name = "May 6, 1427 : Brittany joined the war on the same side as Dauphiné in their war against England, Connaught, "
name = "Leinster, Ulster and Brabant."
name = "May 14, 1427 : Burgundy entered a Military Alliance with Cologne, Mainz and Palatinate."
name = "May 19, 1427 : Guelders entered a Royal Marriage with Cleves."
name = "May 29, 1427 : Adolf VIII rose to the throne in Holstein."
name = "June 2, 1427 : §YBurgundy had Jan Van Eyck."
name = "June 9, 1427 : §YTuscany had Catasto."
name = "June 12, 1427 : Cleves is now granting Brabant military access to their country."
name = "June 13, 1427 : Navarre is now granting Brittany military access to their country."
name = "June 27, 1427 : Oldenburg is now granting Brabant military access to their country."
name = "July 20, 1427 : Djuradj Brankovic rose to the throne in Serbia."
name = "August 12, 1427 : Ak Koyunlu entered a Royal Marriage with Ghazi."
name = "September 6, 1427 : §YBosnia went with §WAlly with Hungary§Y in Heir to the throne."
name = "September 6, 1427 : Hungary entered a Royal Marriage with Bosnia."
name = "September 17, 1427 : Teutonic Order entered a Royal Marriage with Pomerania."
name = "September 18, 1427 : §YHungary went with §WDemand Belgrade from Despot Djuradj of Serbia§Y in Death of Stefan "
name = "Lazarevic."
name = "September 18, 1427 : §YSerbia went with §WReturn the territories as agreed§Y in Emperor Sigismund demands Belgrade."
name = "September 18, 1427 : §YHungary had Despot Djuradj returns Belgrade to Hungary."
name = "September 18, 1427 : §YHungary went with §WWe shall not be blackmailed!§Y in Duke Jeremija refuses to cede Golubac."
name = "September 18, 1427 : §YSerbia went with §WIt is not our problem§Y in Duke Jeremija refuses to cede Golubac."
name = "September 18, 1427 : §YOttoman Empire had Ottomans in Golubac."
name = "September 18, 1427 : §YHungary had Ottomans in Golubac."
name = "October 8, 1427 : Hesse declared war upon Palatinate."
name = "October 8, 1427 : Saxony joined the war on the same side as Hesse in their war against Palatinate."
name = "October 8, 1427 : Cologne joined the war on the same side as Palatinate in their war against Hesse and Saxony."
name = "October 8, 1427 : Mainz joined the war on the same side as Cologne and Palatinate in their war against Hesse and "
name = "Saxony."
name = "October 8, 1427 : Burgundy joined the war on the same side as Cologne, Palatinate and Mainz in their war against "
name = "Hesse and Saxony."
name = "October 16, 1427 : Naples declared war upon Morea."
name = "October 16, 1427 : Papal States joined the war on the same side as Naples in their war against Morea."
name = "October 16, 1427 : Provence joined the war on the same side as Papal States and Naples in their war against Morea."
name = "October 16, 1427 : Siena dishonored a Military Alliance she had with Papal States, Naples and Provence."
name = "October 21, 1427 : §YMilan went with §WNo bargain with Savoy§Y in A pact with Savoy."
name = "October 23, 1427 : §YHungary had Bosnia submits."
name = "October 23, 1427 : Bosnia became Vassals of Hungary."
name = "October 23, 1427 : Bosnia left the Military Alliance she had with Ottoman Empire, Albania and Ak Koyunlu."
name = "November 10, 1427 : Luxemburg is now granting Burgundy military access to their country."
name = "November 23, 1427 : §YWe went with §WIgnore it§Y in Non-enforcement of Ordinances."
name = "December 6, 1427 : Mainz is now granting Palatinate military access to their country."
name = "December 24, 1427 : Cleves is now granting Palatinate military access to their country."
name = "December 24, 1427 : Pomerania is now granting Saxony military access to their country."
name = "January 1, 1428 : Donal VI rose to the throne in Desmond."
name = "January 2, 1428 : §YGolden Horde had Independence of the Uzbeks."
name = "January 2, 1428 : Uzbeks entered a Royal Marriage with Golden Horde."
name = "January 2, 1428 : Golden Horde cancelled the Vassalization she had with Uzbeks."
name = "January 3, 1428 : Morea accepted peace with Albania on the following terms: Full Annexation of Morea by Albania."
name = "January 5, 1428 : Friedrich II der Sanftmütige rose to the throne in Saxony."
name = "January 7, 1428 : §YHussites had Raids to Upper Hungary."
name = "January 7, 1428 : Stettin is now granting Saxony military access to their country."
name = "January 12, 1428 : §YLithuania went with §WDomestic Balance of Power§Y in The Statute of Lithuania."
name = "March 9, 1428 : §YOttoman Empire had Consequences of the Conquest of Constantinople."
name = "March 12, 1428 : §YSerbia had Mines of Novo Brdo."
name = "March 29, 1428 : Cleves is now granting Saxony military access to their country."
name = "April 3, 1428 : Livonian Order now has a trade agreement with Novgorod."
name = "April 10, 1428 : Abkhazia joined the war on the same side as Georgia in their war against Shirvan."
name = "April 10, 1428 : Trebizond joined the war on the same side as Georgia and Abkhazia in their war against Shirvan."
name = "May 7, 1428 : §YMamluks went with §WInstitute royal monopoly§Y in Pepper Monopoly."
name = "May 10, 1428 : §YVenice went with §WPay up§Y in Pepper Monopoly."
name = "May 14, 1428 : Cologne is now granting Brabant military access to their country."
name = "May 23, 1428 : Muscovy has cancelled the treaty of military access they had in Tver."
name = "June 22, 1428 : §YStettin went with §WPunish the traitors harshly§Y in Unrest in Stettin."
name = "July 5, 1428 : §YBurgundy had Treaty of Delft."
name = "July 5, 1428 : §YEngland had Failure in the Low Countries."
name = "July 19, 1428 : Candar entered a Military Alliance with Karaman and Ghazi."
name = "September 15, 1428 : §YScotland had The Arrest of the Lord of the Isles."
name = "September 20, 1428 : Bremen is now granting Saxony military access to their country."
name = "October 6, 1428 : Ottoman Empire has cancelled the treaty of military access they had in Albania."
name = "November 11, 1428 : Denmark declared war upon Bremen."
name = "November 11, 1428 : Sweden joined the war on the same side as Denmark in their war against Bremen."
name = "November 11, 1428 : Norway joined the war on the same side as Denmark and Sweden in their war against Bremen."
name = "November 11, 1428 : Stettin joined the war on the same side as Denmark, Sweden and Norway in their war against "
name = "Bremen."
name = "November 11, 1428 : Novgorod joined the war on the same side as Denmark, Sweden, Norway and Stettin in their "
name = "war against Bremen."
name = "November 11, 1428 : Mecklenburg joined the war on the same side as Bremen in their war against Denmark, "
name = "Sweden, Norway, Stettin and Novgorod."
name = "November 11, 1428 : Mecklenburg cancelled the Vassalization she had with Stettin."
name = "November 11, 1428 : Holstein joined the war on the same side as Mecklenburg and Bremen in their war against "
name = "Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Stettin and Novgorod."
name = "November 11, 1428 : Holstein broke the Royal Marriage she had with Denmark."
name = "November 27, 1428 : Oldenburg is now granting Saxony military access to their country."
name = "December 9, 1428 : Muscovy entered a Royal Marriage with Tver."
name = "December 26, 1428 : Stettin is now granting Sweden military access to their country."
name = "January 1, 1429 : Aleksandr IV rose to the throne in Pskov."
name = "January 1, 1429 : Muhammad IX the Left-handed rose to the throne in Granada."
name = "January 1, 1429 : Wilhelm der Siegreiche rose to the throne in Hanover."
name = "January 1, 1429 : §YDenmark went with §WIssue the war taxes§Y in Erik issues war taxes in Sweden."
name = "January 1, 1429 : §YSweden had Erik issues war taxes."
name = "January 1, 1429 : Boleslaw IV rose to the throne in Masovia."
name = "January 2, 1429 : §YGranada had The Banu al-Sarraj Triumph."
name = "January 5, 1429 : §YDenmark went with §WIssue the war taxes§Y in Erik issues war taxes in Norway."
name = "January 5, 1429 : §YNorway had Erik issues war taxes."
name = "January 7, 1429 : §YHungary went with §WOffer the Crown§Y in Meeting in Lutsk."
name = "January 9, 1429 : §YScotland had Rebellion in the North."
name = "January 10, 1429 : §YPoland went with §WSay NO to the Kingdom of Lithuania§Y in Meeting in Lutsk."
name = "February 1, 1429 : Castile entered a Military Alliance with Portugal."
name = "February 2, 1429 : Ottoman Empire has cancelled the treaty of military access they had in Serbia."
name = "February 8, 1429 : §YGhazi went with §WWe join the Ottoman state (End Game)§Y in The will of Yakub Bey."
name = "February 8, 1429 : §YOttoman Empire had Inheritance of Germiyan."
name = "February 8, 1429 : Ottoman Empire annexed Ghazi."
name = "February 11, 1429 : Dulkadir entered a Military Alliance with Mamluks."
name = "February 11, 1429 : Aden entered a Military Alliance with Mamluks and Dulkadir."
name = "February 20, 1429 : Cosimo il Vecchio rose to the throne in Tuscany."
name = "February 25, 1429 : §YPapal States went with §WForbid sending the crown§Y in Meeting in Lutsk."
name = "March 1, 1429 : Holstein is now granting Mecklenburg military access to their country."
name = "March 19, 1429 : Tlemcen entered a Military Alliance with Tunisia."
name = "March 22, 1429 : England accepted peace with Dauphiné on the following terms: Caux to England & Normandie to "
name = "England. "

name = "March 23, 1429 : Shirvan accepted peace with Trebizond on the following terms: Full Annexation of Shirvan by "
name = "Trebizond."
name = "April 3, 1429 : §YHussites had Prokop the Great's offensive."
name = "April 4, 1429 : §YDauphiné went with §WA sending from God!§Y in The Meeting at Chinon."
name = "April 4, 1429 : §YDauphiné had The Epic of Joan."
name = "April 5, 1429 : §YDenmark had The Sound Due."
name = "April 5, 1429 : The Center of Trade in Mecklenburg have disappeared."
name = "April 5, 1429 : A new Center of Trade has opened in Sjælland."
name = "April 7, 1429 : §YBurgundy went with §WLet Charles be Crowned§Y in Joan's Advance."
name = "April 13, 1429 : §YLithuania went with §WJagiello is being forced to back down, Lithuania wil receive no crown§Y in The "
name = "last chance for the Crown of Lithuania."
name = "April 28, 1429 : §YDauphiné had The Consecration of Charles VII."
name = "April 28, 1429 : Charles VII rose to the throne in France."
name = "May 1, 1429 : Lorraine is now granting Burgundy military access to their country."
name = "May 4, 1429 : Bosnia entered a Military Alliance with Hungary, Austria, Romanist Bohemia and Wallachia."
name = "May 7, 1429 : §YEngland had Normandy is Laid to Waste."
name = "May 10, 1429 : Brittany is now granting Burgundy military access to their country."
name = "May 23, 1429 : §YSerbia had Income from estates in Hungary."
name = "June 1, 1429 : Brabant is now granting Burgundy military access to their country."
name = "June 1, 1429 : Hesse is now granting Saxony military access to their country."
name = "June 1, 1429 : §YSerbia went with §WWe must turn to defense for now§Y in Despot and Prince of Rashka and Albania."
name = "June 13, 1429 : Stettin is now granting Denmark military access to their country."



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So, I am pleased at this point, but do not know what other players results are .....and also do not know if this will upset the french "fans":rolleyes:
 
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It seems fine to me, if France can recover all the provinces before 1450 or at least before 1500-1520. Otherwise, England will keep French provinces almost for sure and it becomes a problem for Reformation because AI England will always return to Catholic Faith (because of too much Catholic provinces). Not really wanted.
 
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So, I am pleased at this point, but do not know what other players results are .....and also do not know if this will upset the french "fans":rolleyes:
They have fans? :p