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This is my first attempt at an AAR. I've been playing EU2 for a long time, but only recently been on the forums. I'd gotten bored with EU2 because it was too easy and had stopped playing for several months, but when version 1.06 came out I figured I'd go for a challenge (perhaps exhibiting some delusions of grandeur).

Some background:
Why Mecklemburg? I wanted to try WC with a one province minor with version 1.06. I was born in Luebeck, so that made my choice easy for sentimental reasons. I don't think playing any different German one province minor would have made a big difference, although the income boost of having a COT to start certainly helped.

Difficulty/Aggressive Level:
Playing at very hard with a normal computer aggressiveness level; I find it normal AI aggressiveness the hardest level because at higher AI aggressiveness levels, the AI doesn't seem to do much research and often self-destructs. I find it hard to get into wars at normal aggressiveness, which should make expansion much harder.

Exploits:
I allow myself alliance-switching, armies of whatever make-up suits my purpose and of course my background knowledge of upcoming events. I will not reload any old save games (except the autosave on the few times my game crashed to desktop). Peace treaty proposals must be answered as soon as the are offered. I will not intentionally turboannex. I will not use an other exploits intentionally.

Modifications:
I edited the game files for Mecklemburg prior to starting. In an act of extreme hubris, I renamed Mecklemburg the "Kirstein Empire" and created a new monarch file. I added a leader file with one leader (3 for skills across the board) for the game. I will not make any further modifications.
 

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Lübeck is nice to play as with the COT, and I admit that when I play Holstein and I've pacified the Danish to the North, Mecklenburg is my next aim. :D

Born in Lübeck? How did you end up in Ontario?
 

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Chapter #1

Florian took over the throne in 1419 at the early age of 14. His father launched a coup d'etat in 1414 and was eventually killed in a revolt launched in the fall of 1418. He died New Year's Day 1419. Florian took over as monarch and would prove to be an excellent military leader (3 movement, 3 shock, 3 fire, 3 siege). His first steps were to move to a more land-based focus (land +1, Stability -1 ) and to rebuild the army there being only 2000 infantry left after the revolt. He immediately spent the proceeds of the treasury recruiting 7000 cavalry

The Teutonic Order declared was on Pskov on Jan. 3, 1419. Florian dishonoured his alliance with the rest of the Hanseatic League feeling he had to get the domestic situation under control(and that neighbours were there for expansion, not alliances).

The next 20 months were spent planning for eventual war and in Oct. 1420 the Kirstein Empire (ie. Mecklemburg) joined an alliance with Poland, Lithuania and Bohemia and their war on Pommern, Prussia, Holstein, Bremen and the Teutonic Order. The Army was split in two half besieging Hinterpommern and the other half guarding Mecklemburg.

In January 1421 Denmark annexed Holstein. We gained control of Hinterpommern in March and moved on to besiege Vorpommern. Unfortunately in July we received the bad news that Poland hadaccepted peace with Pommern for a mere 76 ducats. We received a mere 19 ducats instead the province of Hinterpommern we had been hoping for. Several days later Denmark annexed Bremen, adding the concern of having a new strong northern neighbour.
 

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Denmark still busy in it's seperate wars against Novgorad and the rest of the Hanseatic League, Florian declared war on them in the spring of 1422. Over the next two years the Kirstein Empire took control of Holstein, Bremen, Jyland and Sjaelland as well as Hinterpommern (which Denmark received from Pommern in 1423), while fighting off numerous small landing attempts from Sweden and Norway. In the glorious fall of 1424 the Kirstein Empire grew from 1 to 4 provinces with Denmark ceding Bremen, Holstein and Hinterpommern in exchange for peace.
 

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In 1427 the Kirstein Empire joined Poland and Lithuania in their war against Tver and again in 1428 when Brandenburg (along with Saxony, Hannover, Hessen and Wurzburg) declared on Lithuania (which had annex Pommern in 1425), Bohemia and Poland.

1428 to 1430 were spent repelling offensives from Hannover and Brandenburg into our territory. In the spring of 1430 we launched offensives into Saxony (most of their army having been wiped out in Poland), and we rewarded with the province of Anhalt and military access in Dec. 1431.

We paid off Hannover with 32 ducats in January 1432 and accepted a white peace with Hessen in March 1432. The rest of 1432 were spent occupying Brandenburg and Kuestrin, which paid off with Kuestrin and military access in 1433 increasing our provinces to six.
 

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Poland declared war on Moldovia in 1434 and having our hands busy with revolts (and high war exhaustion) we dishonoured our alliance to focus on domestic issues (aristocracy +1, stability -1) and put down revolts in Bremen, Holstein and Hinterpommern.

The next several years were spent rebuilding our armed forces and watching our surroundings. 1436 saw Burgundy (along with Kleves and Cologne) declare war on Geldre, Oldenburg, Muenster, and the Palatinat. 1437 saw the Palatinat annex Kleves and Burgundy annex Muenster, and the Palatinat make peace with Burgundy.

Shortly following Burgundy's annexation of Oldenburg in the summer of 1438 we joined the alliance with Geldre and the Palatinat embroiling ourselves in the war. Unfortunately Hessen, Hannover, Saxony, Brandenburg and Wurzburg declared war on the Palatinat a short time later putting us in a multi-front war. Just a disturbing was that they were all one province countries and as such not worth annexing militarily [way too many BB points].

We achieved peace with Hessen in the fall of 1439 only to see Burgundy annex Geldre [making it 3 countries in 4 years annexed by Burgundy]. Within a month the alliances of the Papal States, Venice, Albania and Aragon and of Tuscany, Athens and Genoa declared war on Burgundy.

Burgundy was unable to fight off the combined armies of the various alliances attacking them. In 1442 we obtained Oldenburg and Muenster in exchange for peace.
 

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The next 8 years saw multiple alliances changes and multiple wars concluded early by alliance leaders depriving the Kirstein Empire a chance to expand its territory.

In 1450 Florian, having been forced to retire from active military status since 1437, decided to take a new approach....

1450 Summary:
8 provinces (all German culture) - Mecklemburg, Holstein, Bremen, Hinterpommern, Anhalt, Kuestrin, Oldenburg and Muenster

Census Taxes 89
Monthly Income 19
Land Tech 3
Naval Tech 2
Trade Tech 2
Infrastructure Tech 2
 

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Looks good so far. I wonder how long it'll take till badboy wars trigger? :D

And I agree with you that normal AI aggressiveness is harder, because in that case the AI countries mostly wait till they are ready before they launch a war.
 

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Yeah Florian, you're doing great but, as a n00b I find normal aggresiveness easier. I can't handel all the wars when I expand too much. Although you're right about the waiting till they're ready thing. In my Bavarian AAR Wuertemberg DoWed me while my government ust fell. (I had annexed Wuertemberg earlier) and I could easily retake them (don't read it, I quit anyway).
You seem to do fine, but why didn't you take more provinces from Denmark? The sound due is probably imposed already so you can get a lot of money from Sjilland (or something like that).
Or don't you want scandinavian provinces yet...
well, you're the expert. Good luck in the future.
 

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I only have 8 BB points since most of the provinces were taken in defensive wars. Make of that what you will with respect to the BB wars.

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There are several reasons why I didn't try to take anymore provinces from Denmark. Firstly I had no navy, so I couldn't get to the rest of Denmark, and to build one would have taken years. Secondly you're right I didn't want any Scandanavian provinces yet. Thirdly it was an offensive war and a 6 BB hit was enough to start.
 

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Sorry quick correction. The war with Denmark actually cost me 7 BB; one for DOW with a CB, 6 for taking 3 provinces in an offensive war (2BB points per province).

My other BB points were one each for taking Muester, Oldenburg and Anhalt in defensive war and 2 for taking Kuestrin in what became an offensive war. The total is 12 BB points and I lost 4 (one every 8 years) due to time leaving me with a total of 8.
 

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Looking OK so far Florian, but I'm surprised you haven't force vassalised any minors around you yet, particularly Brandenburg, when you should have had enough war score after taking Kustrin. If you managed to occupy the other HRE minors you were at war with, you should have vassalised them too.

I have a WC with Muenster under my belt on 1.05, but it'll be interesting to see if you can keep war exhaustion low enough when you hit the BB wars under 1.06.

Oh, and is your 3-3-3-3 leader dead now? 3 siege is a massive bonus. Are you imagining that he has his own personal siege train that he carries around wherever he goes?
 

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Unfortunately my leader died in 1437. Since I usually play minors I seldom have any good leaders and you're right that plus 3 siege bonus was extremely useful. In a way I'm sort of glad he died because having him almost felt like cheating.
I haven't force vassalized any minors (ie.Brandenburg) because I needed military access more than a vassal. Brandenburg got annexed in 1445 by Poland, so it turns out vassalizing them wouldn't have done much good.

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I'd be happy to post some screenshots if someone can tell me how to do this.
 
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I've always been drawn to Mecklemburg...if for no other reason than they have the best Shield in the game. That and German culture. Any nation almost feels too easy with German as a state culture. :D
 

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Just so you know, military access is unneccesary if they are your vassal, since you have access through all your vassals' provinces. MA is only worth taking at all if you think they might cancel the vassalisation.
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Unfortunately my leader died in 1437. Since I usually play minors I seldom have any good leaders and you're right that plus 3 siege bonus was extremely useful. In a way I'm sort of glad he died because having him almost felt like cheating.
I haven't force vassalized any minors (ie.Brandenburg) because I needed military access more than a vassal. Bradenburg got annexed in 1445 by Poland, so it turns out vassalizing them wouldn't have done much good.