anonymous4401 said:
Wow, anonymous, was that really necessary?
I've been here since Page 4, and all I can say is:
Best. AAR. Ever.
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Wow, anonymous, was that really necessary?
I've been here since Page 4, and all I can say is:
Best. AAR. Ever.
Joe,
You do realise that my AAR is going to finally overtake you on total views if you stop now. As it is I was 18 short this morning but you've pulled away again. If you kept going you would probably stay ahead as I am also very close to finishing and mine is starting to get boring but if you stop now ....
You do realise that my AAR is going to finally overtake you on total views if you stop now. As it is I was 18 short this morning but you've pulled away again. If you kept going you would probably stay ahead as I am also very close to finishing and mine is starting to get boring but if you stop now ....
Wow. Is there any more that can be said? I've been following this AAR since before I joined the forums or even owned the games and I can sincerly credit you with getting me involved with both!
Burke said:
No, they're literally competing in different circles. Yogi's AAR is actually a rich alternate history/XLG-type novel, while hobotnicajoe is a more traditional type of AAR. If it were in the category of Gameplay AARs this would be in the first running, but WritAAR of the Year? Over all the other writers? Including Yogi?
I'm not going to argue. If I was joe I'd be insulted and wouldn't see any need for that comment to be there in the first place, what, with all the praising going on. You can worship Yogi in his AARs.
If he does turn out to be like what you would be if you were him, which I do not believe in the least, for from what I've seen he has acted with grace, then I will lose all my respect for him. I think his AAR is good. All I said was that I don't think that it's the Best AAR Evar or even of the year. There are a lot of AARs written in this past year, did you know that? I know that 'competing in different circles' can be taken to mean that the quality is highly disparate, but I did not mean it that way, just that they were two completely different styles, and I clarified as such, and further added that in the realm of this style of AARs, this is one of the best.
AARland is starting to get too dramariffic for me. One more ridiculous outburst and I'm out of here.
AARland is starting to get too dramariffic for me. One more ridiculous outburst and I'm out of here.
WTH? Why are you guys ruining a spectacular end of a spectacular AAR with this ridiculous arguing?
Anyway, final victory at last! A pleasing experience indeed, especially gripping was the hectic years of the formation of the CESA, when Hungary was fighting both a powerful Axis and shortly a powerful ally. Impressive.
Sad, though, that Greece and Portugal would stand out as sores in the great map of Europe! And Scotland!
Anyway, final victory at last! A pleasing experience indeed, especially gripping was the hectic years of the formation of the CESA, when Hungary was fighting both a powerful Axis and shortly a powerful ally. Impressive.
Sad, though, that Greece and Portugal would stand out as sores in the great map of Europe! And Scotland!
hobotnicajoe said:stnylan: Yep, backstabbing and intrigues made Hungary great
exactly, I wouldn't be able to bring my brave Czechoslovak boys into Moscow without few treacheries, lots of intrigue and well coordinated aggression
sad, but true.excellent AAR, as we say here, for a little money lots of music
looking forward to your next AAR! a good middle-weight can anytime beat a heavy-weight.
Poor show Anonymous, sours the once sweet aftertaste of this AAR, I do have to agree however that Yogi and Joe's AAR's are completley different ( majority story based, gameplay based) but I suppose we will just have to wait untill the Q4 Awaards to find out who's really the best
Alright, I now realize that my comment was out of line, only made infinitely worse by someone pointing it out. Sorry. It really is a well-executed gameplay-driven AAR. It's just that I associate 'writing' with its more traditional forms, and while this is well-written, there's really no way to tell from it whether its author will be able to craft rich exposition, characterization, and plot. Who knows, maybe he can, but not here, with the style's limitations. But not everyone has the same opinion as I of what makes a 'WritAAR of the Year', which I immediately associate with 'He Could Submit This To An AltHist Publisher And They'll Accept'.
And besides, I was under the distinct impression that this was not the Grand Farewell Gala For This AAR During Which It Would Be Terrible To Say Bad Things About It, because there's still at least one more update to go. So was it out of line?
And one more thing:
If there's one thing I've grown to hate especially over these few months, it's people on the internet who are so enamored with a work that they are blind to its flaws to the point of hostility. Never accuse me of being one of these people. I can see flaws in everything I love, and I can point them out for you, even in The Empire of Fu Manchu.
And besides, I was under the distinct impression that this was not the Grand Farewell Gala For This AAR During Which It Would Be Terrible To Say Bad Things About It, because there's still at least one more update to go. So was it out of line?
And one more thing:
Burke said:
If there's one thing I've grown to hate especially over these few months, it's people on the internet who are so enamored with a work that they are blind to its flaws to the point of hostility. Never accuse me of being one of these people. I can see flaws in everything I love, and I can point them out for you, even in The Empire of Fu Manchu.
Too bad that its ending, this AAR has been one of my favourites. Its sad to see it finishing. In fact, you playing as a minor like Hungary is what inspired me to play as a minor for my first AAR
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Thanks! And I will upload the saves somewhere, after I zipped them. I would be really great if there would be a sequel. Or an alternate path at the beginning of a year...Snake IV said:Too bad you are going to end it. But I see that you want to spot on to top, when there still is action.
It would be fun if you uploaded your save to all your fans. I can see it in front of me, the AAR "In the footspets of Joe the squid, the last year of war" a MP AAR with Hungary, USA, Japan and Nazi Germany under the Führer KuzuX. Oh, and not to forget Azerbaijzan. That would be great. Who's up for it?
stabsoffizier: Yes, south Tyrol should be part of Greater Germany.
Vann the Red: Thanks a lot, Vann!
kramari: Thanks for you words! And thanks for being around for such a long period! I'll make the saves available, so you can finish the job
lifeless: I think you're the only one who replied to each update! A careful reader, indeed! Thanks for that, lifeless.
kenneththegreat: Thanks a lot, Kenneth! But I won't forget that you started this "WriteAAR of the Year" flame... You provocative nordmand!
anonymous4401 and everyone involved in the "Who's the best" flame: Guys, let's just enjoy the AARs and not compete all the time! Sure, it's nice to have all the Awards and votes, but let's not forget why we are here: for having fun and not competition.
GeneralHannible: Thanks a lot, Hannble! And I'm counting on you in my next AAR...
Burke: Thanks a lot, Burke!
Kanitatlan: ... Are you provoking me? ...
Kordo: Wow, thanks! Glad you joined!
AntiochusIII: Thanks a lot! And I just feel good that Greece and Portugal survived. It just makes me feel generous that I could've crushed them any time, but i didn't
Gaarq: Thanks Gaarq! And sorry, but I felt that there were much more important fronts than the Soviet.
Sybot: Thanks, Sybot!
And It's great to see that so many people got inspired by this AAR in some way. I'm really happy for that!
I don't know, have you been provoked? May be I'll do an AAR carrying on your game and invading Americahobotnicajoe said:Kanitatlan: ... Are you provoking me? ...
(I suspect we both realise your current position is a really good place to finish).In truth, I'm fairly sure we both have almost exactly the same readership.
I certainly will support you in this. I would like to read about a CESA invasion of America!Kanitatlan said:May be I'll do an AAR carrying on your game and invading America
Btw, the last update is coming up in a few minutes...
you know what would be fun? a multiplayer game between Kanitatlan and hobotnicajoe!
The Rise of the Hungarians (Summary of the campaign)
Hungary started as a minor country in 1936, seeking for a strong ally right after the start. Joining the Axis was crucial for the survival of the country. Backed by Hitler’s Germany, it was no trouble liberating the Hungarian provinces that were controlled by Czechoslovakia. Unfortunately, Poland interfered, but there was no question about the outcome of the conflict. In only a few months, the Axis won, and the re-claimed northern territories added a huge boost to Hungary’s economy.
The years between 1936 and 1940 passed in relative peace; Germany and Hungary were gathering strength for achieving their strategic goals. It was the spring of 1940 when Hungary finally broke the silence, and decided to take back its former southern territories. War was declared on Yugoslavia. Even though the Hungarians wanted the operation to be solo effort, Germany interfered. Furthermore, it came as a great surprise that Bulgaria and Romania joined the conflict on the Axis side. While the Germans attacked from the north-west, the Romanians and Bulgarians from the east, the quick Hungarian forces managed to occupy most of Yugoslavia. After only one and a half months Yugoslavia surrendered.
After defeating Yugoslavia, Hungary found itself in an awkward situation: its top priority, re-claiming Hungarian inhabited provinces, was suddenly denied when Romania had joined the Axis. The situation seemed hopeless; Hungary was forced towards a more peaceful foreign policy.
In the summer of 1940, it was time for Germany to expand, and Hungary was ready to help. It was payback time for the German assistance against Czechoslovakia back in 1936. The target was the Soviet Union, and the Hungarians were in charge of the southern part of the front. The war went on for many-many months, bringing Axis successes, and the Hungarians topped all expectations. They managed to occupy huge territories of Ukraine, Stalingrad, the Caucasus region and Kazakhstan. In the winter of 1942, with the Soviet campaign unquestionably decided, the Hungarians evacuated their troops.
In the spring of 1942, Hungary’s only chance of expansion was towards the northern industrial territories of Italy. Even though the Italian army significantly outnumbered the Hungarian, the excellent maneuverability of the Hungarian Royal Army and Air Force proved to be decisive. The Italian mainland fell in only 2 months. The peace negotiations guaranteed the northern Italian territories for Hungary. The value of victory was increased by the fact that the Axis troops did not interfere: Hungary succeeded it on its own.
June 1942 was an important period of Hungary’s history: the Hungaro-Croatian Kingdom was proclaimed. The new country now became a considerable power of Central-Southern Europe. The main priority for the rest of the year was the modernization of the Hungaro-Croatian Army.
By 1943, even though the Soviet campaign was decided, Stalin was determined to fight till the end. To achieve victory faster Germany asked for Hungarian special mountaineer units in the battlefields of Mongolia and Eastern Soviet Union. The Hungarians sent several divisions to the region, and by the summer of 1943 the Soviet Union was annexed.
Now, in the middle of 1943, after 3 years, the Axis was at peace again. The Hungaro-Croatian Kingdom, after realizing that it can’t achieve its territorial claims against Romania inside the Axis, decided to leave the alliance. It was just in time, because in July 1943 the Allies declared war on the Axis. Hungary steyed neutral in the conflict.
Until the summer of 1944, the battle raged on between the Axis and the Allies. The war brought Allies success due to the over-expansion of Germany in the east. In July 1944, Horthy decided that it was time for Hungary to reclaim it’s national provinces in Romania. The Hungaro-Croatian Kingdom declared war on the Axis.
Hitler was completely unprepared for the backstabbing attack, so the Hungarians managed to occupy and annex Romania, Bulgaria and liberate the Czech Republic, Poland, Belorussia and the Ukraine. In this period, having huge influence on the governments of these new countries, Hungary created a new military alliance called the “Central European Strategic Alliance (CESA)”*.
By the end of 1944 the Axis were virtually defeated: Germany was occupied by the Allies and the CESA. However, Hitler’s country still existed, and was governed from Moscow. But from this time on, the Axis was no military threat to anyone.
By the beginning of 1945 the Allies felt threatened by the rise of the CESA. The conflict peaked when the two sides could not decide about the future of occupied Germany: the CESA wanted to liberate a democratic Germany as a bump zone in the middle of Europe. The Allies denied this request, which eventually led to war.
The hostilities started when the CESA declared war on the Allies on 1st February 1945. The war took the Allies by complete surprise. Its eastern borders were poorly defended and their troops were tired of the war against Hitler. These things brought unexpectedly quick victories for the inferior CESA forces in West Germany, the Netherland, Belgium and France. Luckily, even after having their troops reorganized, the Allies could not turn over the outcome of the war. The CESA achieved victory on the continent and liberated the Federal Republic of Germany and Flanders.
To beat the Allies decisively , the CESA needed full control of the Mediterranean. In the autumn of 1945 the invasion Spain, Gibraltar and Italy took place. These operations were quick and successful. After the invasions, the two countries joined the CESA, which gave the alliance a significant naval force. This allowed the CESA to wage a successful war in North Africa for Suez.
By the spring of 1946, the CESA armies occupied the previously Allied owned Northern Africa and a huge part of the Middle East. The last invasion, against Great Britain, was launched in May 1946. In only two months, the country was occupied, and Scotland got independence. The CESA became the strongest alliance in the world.
One would wonder about what happened in Europe after this. There were a lot of questions to be solved, and in the next five years several referendums were held to solve territorial problems**. Northen Ireland, England, Slovenia, Serbia (including Montenegro and eastern Bosnia), Romania (without Transylvania) and Albania (having Kosovo and western Macedonia) declared independence inside the CESA. Vichy France re-claimed its previous provinces except for Lotharingia and some northern territories which stayed within Flanders. And finally, by aquiring Luxembourg, Lotharingia, South Tyrol, Suedenland and Austria, the Federal Republic of Germany became the most powerful state inside CESA.
THE END
The new order of Europe – 1950
* This was the first time I took military control of my allies. I consider this fair, because Hungary created/liberated these countries.
** This is an imaginary scenario about what happened after the game ended.
Wow, what an idea! I definitely like it - shame I don't have the time for it. At least not now...lifeless said:you know what would be fun? a multiplayer game between Kanitatlan and hobotnicajoe!
Yes, no matter how many wars they lose, the Germans always come out the strongest in the end. Just like in real life...lifeless said:germany overshadowing hungary in their own alliance?! this is not acceptable!
Whoa!
I'd never imagined the new Europe like that.
As for the WritAAR of the Year flamewar, jadda jadda jadda. Wasn't my fault that DCP and anny responded like that.
I'd never imagined the new Europe like that.
As for the WritAAR of the Year flamewar, jadda jadda jadda. Wasn't my fault that DCP and anny responded like that.