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cuchulain

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you should do "acceptall" to slovakia over their province. i mean it's more realistic that the germans would given hungary that one area instead of setting up a new government and as a reward for helping in the war(s)
 

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now why would you make naval bombers? :confused:
Because, as I defined my goals in my first post, my third priority is get a port and build a small fleet. Since it's very likely that it's gonna be a very small fleet, it'll need strong air support. On the other hand I got the blueprints from zee Germans, so it was relatively quickly researched. And I am an aircarft fan - I was sooo happy to see the air force stregthened in the latest patches of HOI2.

@Earth's Savior
: Actually, the stupidest thing happened: just for fun, I demanded territory from Czechoslovakia back in 1937 and I succeded getting Zilina! It really was lucky, because it was my first try in this game (I very rarely try it, since the percentage is usally 0 or 1 and it's very expensive). But then the most annoying thing happened after some months: the game crashed! :mad: !!! I had to reload, I've lost 4-5 months (I rarely save). When I reloaded, of course I could not get Zilina any more, I tried several times since. The other annoying thing is that Japan and Germany actually signed the Anti-Commitern pact in the original game, which was not the case after the reload.

@stabsoffizie
r: I got +15 IC from the provinces of Slovakia, so I had a total of 38 base IC by the spring of 1936. The rest 9 base IC was build in 1936-1937. My total IC was increased by researching the right advances, and setting the right ministers and domestic policy.

@Darks63
: Thanks!

@bluelotus: Thanks! Actually, I fear that I'm already on the edge on resources for my relatively huge IC. Currently, it's fine, but if I go to war, almost all my over-seas trades will be cancelled, and I'm in trouble, especially because of rares. The lucky thing is that I'm getting a lot of energy from Germany for free (30-40 per day), so currently I'm gaining resources in general. Check out my oil reserves :p

@cuchulain
: I never use "acceptall", 'cause I think of it as cheating. But you're totally right, it's very stupid to have a Slovakia which has nothing else than 4 metal/day (no IC, whatsoever). But one sometimes gains because of AI stupidity, sometimes suffers. I consider this more or less fair.
 
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hobotnicajoe said:
Because, as I defined my goals in my first post, my third priority is get a port and build a small fleet. Since it's very likely that it's gonna be a very small fleet, it'll need strong air support. On the other hand I got the blueprints from zee Germans, so it was relatively quickly researched. And I am an aircarft fan - I was sooo happy to see the air force stregthened in the latest patches of HOI2.

heyhó fasza! Magyar AAR...:)
In one of my Hungary games I managed to build up a large battleship/battlecruiser stack, big and modern enough to take on the english mediterran fleets.
If I remeber right you'll have 2 naval leaders(horthy and some other guy) at your disposal, so you can build a large SS fleet and a smaller BB/CA fleet.
you will need to help the italian navy, and army in north africa to ensure victory there.
 

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This AAR is very good. I like it. Are you going for Croatia as your coat of arms suggests?

And I like the pictures you make. :)
 

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Invasion of Yugoslavia: Preparations (January-March 1940)


The first domestic actions were to move towards Hawk Lobby and appoint a new Intelligence Minister, Sándor Csia.

Sándor Csia, the new Intelligence Minister - 1st January, 1940​

In January, Hungarian diplomats reported that the all independence guarantees for Yugoslavia had expired. This was an excellent opportunity to retrieve the southern territories lost after the Treaty of Trianon, without provoking a major international incident.

The General Staff was ordered to develop an invasion plan against Yugoslavia in just a week. The target’s terrain and numerous rivers made it extremely difficult to conquer Yugoslavia from the north. And having victory points in Skopje and Dubrovnik meant that virtually all provinces had to be occupied.

The rough terrain and main rivers (with their names) of Yugoslavia​

The Staff was aware that Germany would immediately join the war. The concern was that the Germans would immediately attack Slovenia (Ljubljana and Maribor) from Austria and break into Croatia. Hungary wanted to prevent this, because it insisted on occupying Croatia itself and not let the Germans do it. The idea of attacking Slovenia directly from Győr was dropped due to a huge natural obstacle - the Drava River. Instead, it was decided that a fast mobile corps will be set up, which would sweep through northern Croatia from Szeged through Újvidék(Novi Sad) - Eszék (Osijek) – Bjelovar – Maribor. This fast corps wil be supported from the other side of the Drava River – from Pécs and Győr.

By the end of January the General Staff had come up with a plan consisting of 2 phases.

In the first phase a major force would rush from Szeged towards the west, and when reaching Maribor, turn to the south towards Rijeka to shut the door before the Germans. A smaller force will secure Becskerek (Zrenjanin) and Eszék (Osijek) having the Sava and Danube rivers helping them defend from the south. Another major force (consisting of mountain units) would move southwards, down to Mostar, do cut off all western Yugoslavian units from the capital, Belgrade. This second force would be protected from the east by the Drina River, and the rough terrain would help it defend from the west. The most risky part of the first phase is the crossing of the Sava River when advancing towards Mostar.

By the end of the first phase the Sava, Una and Drina rivers will be the natural defenses against possible Yugoslav counter-attacks.

In phase one, the air force's task is to interdict forces in Croatia, and to keep Yugoslav planes on the ground by making air superiority missions in Serbia (especially above Belgrade) and Croatia.

The Plan for the Invasion of Yugoslavia: Phase 1​

In phase two, the western Yugoslavian units would be encircled and destroyed, and then the Hungarian Army would turn to the east to occupy Serbia and Macedonia.

The air force's task - hopefully already having full air superiority - was to aid the destruction of Yugoslav forces in Croatia and then re-basing to Belgrade to help the offensive there.

Phase 2 was not as well-defined as Phase 1 simply because of the unanticipated events that may have happened.

The Plan for the Invasion of Yugoslavia: Phase 2​

The reason for taking care of the eastern part later, is that Germany would rush into Yugoslavia from the west, which would’ve meant gray Croatia instead of brown.

Now, the question was when to attack. Since Germany would immediately join the hostilities, it would probably re-organize some of its troops from the Russian border. Luckily, the SU was still waging war in Finland. It was probable that they would not DOW Germany before they make peace with the Finnish. So, Hungary had to invade Yugoslavia before SU and Finland make peace. But it was still winter, and snow covered the North of the Balkans.

The other problem was that the fast, mobile corps was not ready yet. The first Turán medium tank division would have been completed by no sooner than the beginning of March. And having a tank division for the offensive in the Northern-Croatian plains was crucial. So, the start of invasion was anticipated for the middle or end of March - depending on the weather.


The Turán I, a Hungarian medium tank based on the Skoda T-21*​

A major army re-organization took part during the beginning of March. 2 armies were created, led by General Dálnokfalva and General Gorondy-Vovak. The General Staff decided that the forces should be very flexible - they were build down to division level. This ensured that they would have been quickly reorganized if things would not go as planned.

The order of battle was:

1. Magyar Királyi Hadsereg - General Dálnokfalva (skill 1/exp 0)**
I. Gyalogos hadtest - General Dálnokfalva​
1. Gyalogos hadosztály ('39 Infantry + Field Artillery) - General Dálnokfalva​
2. Gyalogos hadosztály ('39 Infantry + AT Artillery) - MjGen. László (2/0)​
3. Gyalogos hadosztály ('39 Infantry + AA Artillery) - MjGen. de Dálnok (2/0)​
II. Gyalogos hadtest - LtGen. Bajnóczy (2/31)​
4. Gyalogos hadosztály ('39 Infantry) - LtGen. Bajnóczy​
5. Gyalogos hadosztály ('39 Infantry) - MjGen. Ternegg-Ratz (2/0)​
6. Gyalogos hadosztály ('39 Infantry) - MjGen. Náday (2/0)​
IV. Huszár hadtest - General Sonyi (1/0)​
10. Huszár hadosztály (SM Cavalry + Engineer) - General Sonyi​
11. Huszár hadosztály (SM Cavalry + Engineer) - MjGen. Vörös (1/0)​
12. Huszár hadosztály (SM Cavalry + Engineer) - MjGen. Sztojay (2/0)​
VII. Páncélos hadtest - LtGen. Szombathelyi (2/37)​
19. Motorizált hadosztály ('40 Mot Infantry) - LtGen. Szombathelyi​
20. Motorizált hadosztály ('40 Mot Infantry) - MjGen. Heszlényi (2/0)​
28. Páncélos hadosztály (Bas Med Tank) - MjGen. Veress (2/0)​

2. Magyar Királyi Hadsereg - General Gorondy-Vovak (skill 1/exp 0)
III. Gyalogos hadtest - LtGen. Jány (2/2)​
7. Gyalogos hadosztály ('39 Infantry) - LtGen. Jány​
8. Gyalogos hadosztály ('39 Infantry) - MjGen. R.-Rüdiger (2/0)​
9. Gyalogos hadosztály ('39 Infantry) - MjGen. Maguarossy (2/0)​
V. Hegyi hadtest - LtGen. Horváth (1/0)​
13. Hegyi hadosztály ('36 Mountain + Engineer) - LtGen. Horváth​
14. Hegyi hadosztály ('36 Mountain + Engineer) - MjGen. Henneyey (2/0)​
15. Hegyi hadosztály ('36 Mountain + Engineer) - MjGen. Lakatos (2/0)​
VI. Hegyi hadtest - General Gorondy-Vovak​
16. Hegyi hadosztály ('36 Mountain + Engineer) - General Gorondy-Vovak​
17. Hegyi hadosztály ('36 Mountain + Engineer) - MjGen. Tapody (0/0)​
18. Hegyi hadosztály ('36 Mountain + Engineer) - MjGen. Beregffy (2/0)​

The Air Force: Magyar Királyi Légierő
I. Bombazó század - Air MjGen. Rapaich (1/0)​
1. Vadászbombázó osztály (Bas Tac Bomber)​
2. Vadászosztály (Bas Interceptor)​
II. Vadász század - Air MjGen. Justy (3/37)​
3. Vadászosztály (Bas Interceptor)​
4. Vadászosztály (Bas Interceptor)​

5. Vadászosztály (Bas Interceptor) - Air MjGen Újszászy (1/0)​

By the middle of March the re-organization was complete and Hungary was ready for the invasion. The II. Infantry Corps was in Győr, the I. Infantry and IV. Cavalry Corps in Pécs, the V. and VI. Mountain, and VII. Mobile Corps was in Szeged, and finally the III. Infantry Corps took position in Debrecen. Now, it was just sitting and waiting for the weather to improve...


Ready for the Invasion - 15th March, 1940​


* Photo borrowed from www.bibl.u-szeged.hu.
** In HOI2 terms General Dálnokfalva would've been overstacked, but I was moving the divisions so that this would never happen.
 
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Zaku said:
heyhó fasza! Magyar AAR...:)
In one of my Hungary games I managed to build up a large battleship/battlecruiser stack, big and modern enough to take on the english mediterran fleets.
If I remeber right you'll have 2 naval leaders(horthy and some other guy) at your disposal, so you can build a large SS fleet and a smaller BB/CA fleet.
you will need to help the italian navy, and army in north africa to ensure victory there.

Yeah, a Magyar AAR :) I saw very few of them here in the forum, that's why I started one. There was one promising, but it went silent after a few posts -I think it was yours, right? :)

I'm actually nowhere regarding Naval Research, so I fear that I will not be able to build a big fleet. A few ships will do, just for fun...

@Funkatronica: Thanks! It's great to get positive feedback. Sometimes I'm wondering whether it's worth putting so much effort in writing AARs. After such messages, I know it is! ;)

@Singleton Mosby: Thanks a lot! And I guess your question is answered in my previous update :)
 
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Nice plans and nice maps man :) But as I look at the maps you only made moves for the Hungarian armies. Is this means that you won't grab a few german divisions to help you?
 

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bluelotus said:
Nice plans and nice maps man :) But as I look at the maps you only made moves for the Hungarian armies. Is this means that you won't grab a few german divisions to help you?

Thanks! I'm a map-maniac when it comes to strategy :) .

And yes, the invasion will be a solo operation by Hungary - meaning I will not take control of foreign troops. This actually is a problem, because I have to compete with Germany for western Yugo - I want to occupy Croatia for Hungary. Greedy, I know... :D

@sainte-therese
: Thanks!

@Finnish Torpedo: Thanks! I was afraid that people would find it too detailed. Good to know that some like it this way. I plan to document my future offensives similarly detailed.
 

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This is really nice aar,keep it up!I like your way to write this.Im not fan of long dialogues,I want to see action.
 

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Nice AAR indeed. I am actually playing with Hungary myself and I must say that it is a country with great possibilities.
 

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Invasion of Yugoslavia: It Begins... (25th March – 30th March, 1940)


On 20th March Hungarians addressed an ultimatum to Yugoslavia. The Yugoslavs rejected the territorial demans. It was 25th March, 1940 when it all started: at 02:00 Hungary declared war on Yugoslavia.

The Night of the Declaration of War - 25th March, 1940​


25th March – day 1

The invasion began at dawn – the V., VI. and VII. Corps attacked Újvidék (Novi Sad) from Szeged. The Yugoslav army was caught by complete surprise: the 3 defending infantry divisions retreated towards Eszék (Osijek) just after 1 hour of fight. The first victory came very rapidly.

In the meanwhile the Hungarian Royal Air Force started bombimg Belgrade, and Hungarian interceptors ruled the skies of Serbia and Croatia.


Germany mobilized its forces very soon in Austria and initiated an attack on Ljubjana. This was much sooner than the Hungarians anticipated: the race for Croatia seemed to be in favour of Germany.

But the biggest shock came in the evening: Rumania and Bulgaria joined the Axis and the war against Yugoslavia! Now, it was just a matter of time when Yugoslavia would be torn to pieces. 4 countries attacking from all sides – the Yugoslav government and army was paralyzed.

With Rumania and Bulgaria joining the war, the Hungarian „we’ll take care of Serbia later” plan was demolished. But, the government decided not to change the attack plan: focus on Croatia, and let Rumania and Bulgaria invade the eastern part.


26th March – day 2

10:00 in the morning was a historical moment for Délvidék*: 28. Páncélos Division arrived in Újvidék (Novi Sad), where they were greeted as liberators.

This day brought the first air victory for Hungary - the II. Vadász század defeated a squadron of Yugoslav bombers above Belgrade.

In the east, Bulgarians were somewhat struggling: they won a battle in Nis, but lost in Stip.

North of the Balkans after the Liberation of Újvidék - 26th March, 1940​


27th March – day 3

At dawn an offensive was launched against Eszék (Osijek). VII. Corps attacked from Újvidék (Novi Sad), and IV. and I. Corps were giving support from Pécs in the north. The battle lasted for only 3 hours: the 3 defending Yugoslav divisions retreated towards Zenica.

During the evening the V. and VI. Mountain Corps arrived in Újvidék (Novi Sad) and Germany occupied Ljubjana in the west.


28th March – day 4

This day brought a Yugoslav counter-attack against the 28. Páncélos Division that had just arrived in Eszék (Osijek). The counter-attacks came from Becskerek (Zrenjanin), Belgrade and Bjelovar. This was an excellent chance to flank the Yugoslav divisions: the III. Infantry Corps attacked Becskerek (Zrenjanin) from Debrecen, and with a support from the V. and VI. Mountain Corps from Újvidék (Novi Sad) they achieved a victory in 1 hour. Bjelovar was flanked from Győr by the II. Infantry Corps. The Yugoslav counter-attack was broken, and the 28. Páncélos Division was relieved.

At noon, the IV. Huszar Corps arrived in Osijek and then making an excellent maneuver, immediately attacked the 2 divisions in Belgrade that were completely exhausted because of the counter-attack earlier that day. This was against the original plan, but Gereral Sonyi took the chance. He was right – at midnight he was victorious in Belgrade!

The Yugoslav counter-attack flanked in Bjelovar - 28th March, 1940​


29th March – day 5

Germany won a battle in Maribor, with support of the Luftwaffe and the Hungarian Royal Air Force, which was now bombing western Yugoslavia.

In the evening Bjelovar was occupied by the VII. Mobile Corps.


30th March – day 6
The General Staff made a summary for the first 6 days of battle: Újvidék (Novi Sad), Eszék (Osijek), Bjelovar were occupied and Hungarian troops were marching towards Belgrade and Becskerek (Zrenjanin). Although the southern offensive towards Mostar was slower than anticipated, The Hungarian Royal Army, in general, performed superbly, so far.

The loss in manpower was 1.16 in the first six days.

At the gates of Belgrade - 30th March, 1940​

* "Délvidék" is the Hungarian name for the southern part of Pannonia.
 
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