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Around the time of the fall of Rome- indeed, a partial cause of it- there were a series of great migration from Central Asia, across the steppe, into Eastern Europe. The early Khazars were a Turkic tribe that participated in this movement of peoples. They worshipped the shamanistic gods of their Turkic peoples, primarily Tengri, Lord of the Sky, but also Umay, the fertility goddess, Kuaru, god of thunder, Erlik, god of death, and many others. A Khagan, or ruler, who performed poorly, was ritually put to death. These early Khazars also had strong cultural influences from Confucian China, including a belief in a Mandate of Heaven. The Khazars themselves claimed descent from Kozar, son of Togarmeh, son of Japheth, son of Noah; however, this was likely introduced only after the Khazars' exposure to the Hebrew bible.

By the 7th Century, the Khazars had become a force to be reckonned with, controlling much of the Caucasus and having conquered Crimea from the Goths. Allying themselves to the Eastern Roman Empire, they overran Georgia and helped Byzantium oppose the last Zoroastrian dynasty in Persia, the Sassanid. In 650, the Umayyad Caliphate's forces were defeated by the Khazars after a terrible battle at Balanjar. A close alliance between Khazaria and Byzantium was solidified in the 700's by marriage ties- Leo III's wife, Tzitzak, was Khagan Bihar's daughter, and their son, who reigned as Leo IV, was known as Leo the Khazar. Tzitzak also started a fashion craze in Constantinople for her Khazar robe, known as the tzitzakion.

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Expansion of the Khazar state

Peace with the Caliphate was brief; the Second Arab-Khazar War broke out in the 710's and lasted until 758. In 737 the Arabs briefly occupied the Khazar capital of Atil. They were, however, repulsed; and the victorious Khazars adopted Judaism as their state religion, perhaps as a sign of independence from the Christian Greeks and the Muslim Arabs. In one account, the Kuzari by Spanish rabbi Judah Halevi, the Khazar Khagan, hearing a rabbi, priest, and imam debate, picks Judaism upon learning that it preceds and is foundational to the other two Monotheistic religions, and as such is held in some regard by both of them. Other scholars have recited economic or nationalistic motives.

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A Khazar silver coin in the style of the Caliphate's; the Arabic inscription read "Moses is the prophet of God"

Regardless, the Khazar state reached its high point in the 800s. In the West, it occupied Kiev and the Crimea; in the north it controlled the Bulgars, in the South it dominated Georgia and reached the forbidding peaks of the Caucasus, and in the East it stretched as far into Central Asia as the Sea of Aral.

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Khazaria in 850

The first Khazar khagan to convert to Judaism was called Bulan, meaning elk, but took the Hebrew name Sabriel upon his conversion. St. Cyril, the famous missionary to the Slavs, visited the nation in the time of the Khagan Zechariah and failed to convert it. The Khazars corresponded actively with the Jews of the Islamic world; some of the correspondence between the Khagan Joseph and the Hasdai ibn Shaprut, the Jewish foreign secretary to Abd ar-Rahman III, Caliph of Cordoba, still exist. Persian Jews, especially, believed that the Khazars would fulfill the ancient prophecy of Isaiah 48:14, "he LORD hath loved him: he will do his pleasure on Babylon, and his arm [shall be on] the Chaldeans", Babylon taken to mean Baghdad and the Caliphate. In the commentary of Egyptian rabbi Saadia Gaon on the verse, "this refers to the Khazars, who will go and destroy Babylon".

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A Khazar engraving depicting the Star of David

Eventually, however, the Khaganate fell on hard times. Pressured by both Islam and Byzantine and Rus Christianity, and the movement of new steppe peoples like the Pechenegs into the region, the Khazars also suffered a serious internal revolt, the Kabar Rebellion, and lost the vassalage of first the Magyars, then other tribes. Between 967 and 969 CE, Sviatoslav I Rurikovich, who had made the Kievan Rus the largest state in Europe through constant warfare and conquest, sacked Atil, thus destroying the empire and breaking the back of Khazar power. In 972 Sviatoslavl was slaughtered by the Pechenegs; their khan made his skull into a drinking chalice.

Small Jewish Khazar princes and rulers continue to be mentioned in sources of the time for decades afterward. And in 1066, nearly 100 years after the fall of the state, Isaac Kuzari broods alone in old Atil.

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The blood of the Bulanid Khagans runs in his veins; but Khazaria is weak. Still, much has changed in the last century, and perhaps some of it can be exploited. The Rus have broken into numerous squabling principalities; the Bulgars, ancient enemies, have embraced Islam, and the Alans, once friends and vassals, have adopted Christianity. A new Turkish dynasty, the Seljuk, has occupied Persia and established a protectorate over the Abbasid Caliphs; and the old powers, the Romans and the Fatimid Caliph in Egypt, quiver in fear before it. The Kipchaks have driven the Pechenegs from the steppe, the Pechenegs have driven the Magyars from the Danube Basin, and the Magyars, in turn, have formed the Christain Kingdom of Hungary. Divide and conquer is the only reasonable strategy to restore the lost Khazar glory; even so, Khazaria is the single weakest state on the Pontic Steppe, and all the others covet the strategic and still wealthy city if Atil at the mouth of the Volga.

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"And God will spread you out unto all the nations--from one end of the world to the other--and there you will worship other gods of wood and stone whom neither you nor your ancestors knew" (Deuteronomy 28:64). In all nations of the Earth, the Children of Israel cry out unto the Lord, forced to worship the Kaba Stone in Mecca or Christ the man-god with and his wooden Holy Cross. The blood of Isaac, the last Khagan, boils at the iniquities of the heathen, but his resolve is shaken as he realizes how scattered and powerless are the worshippers of the one God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, against the heathen enemy.

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And so Isaac must put his faith in the Lord, as his people have done for three thousand years and, if necessary, will for another three thousand. But Isaac is a descendant of the Khazars, a pragmatic and worldly people who have long known that heaven helps those who help themselves. The path will be long and treacherous, but Isaac or his descendants will recall the Exiles and return to Jerusalem, or like Simon Bar Kochba in his final, futile rebellion against the Romans almost one thousand years earlier, they they will fall gloriously in the attempt.
 
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Hasdai's Letter to King Joseph

I, Hasdai, son of Isaac, son of Ezra, belonging to the exiled Jews of Jerusalem in Sepharad [Spain], a servant of my lord the King, bow to the earth before him and prostrate myself towards the abode of your Majesty from a distant land. I rejoice in your tranquillity and magnificence and stretch forth my hands to God in heaven that He may prolong your reign in Israel....

Praise be to the beneficent God for His mercy towards me! Kings of the earth, to whom his [ Abd-ar-Rahman's ] magnificence and power are known, bring gifts to him, conciliating his favor by costly presents, such as the King of the Franks, the King of the Gebalim, who are Germans, the King of Constantinople, and others. All their gifts pass through my hands, and I am charged with making gifts in return. Let my lips express praise to the God of Heaven, who so far extends His lovingkindness towards me, without any merit of my own, but in the fullness of His mercies!

I always ask the ambassadors of these monarchs who bring gifts about our brethren the Israelites, the remnant of the captivity, whether they have heard anything concerning the deliverance of those who have languished in bondage and have found no rest.

At length mercantile emissaries of Khorasan told me that there is a kingdom of Jews which is called al-Khazar. But I did not believe these words for I thought that they told me such things to procure my goodwill and favor. I was therefore wondering, till the ambassadors of Constantinople came with presents and a letter from their king to our king, and I interrogated them concerning this matter,

They answered me: "It is quite true, and the name of that kingdom is al-Khazar. It is a fifteen days' journey by sea from Constantinople, but by land many nations intervene between us; the name of the king now reigning is Joseph; ships sometimes come from their country to ours bringing fish, skins, and wares of every kind. The men are our confederates and are honored by us; there is communication between us by embassies and mutual gifts; they are very powerful; they maintain numerous armies with which they occasionally engage in expeditions." When I heard this report I was encouraged, my hands were strengthened, and my hope was confirmed. Thereupon I bowed down and adored the God of heaven.

I pray for the health of my lord the King, of his family, and of his house, and that his throne may be established for ever. Let his days and his sons' days be prolonged in the midst of Israel!

King Joseph's Reply

* THE LETTER OF JOSEPH THE KING, SON OF AARON THE KING-MAY HIS CREATOR PRESERVE HIM TO THE HEAD OF THE ASSEMBLY, HASDAI, THE SON OF ISAAC, SON OF EZRA


....I wish to inform you that your beautifully phrased letter was given us by Isaac, son of Eliezer, a Jew of the land of Germany. You made us happy and we are delighted with your understanding and wisdom.... Let us, therefore, renew the diplomatic relations that once obtained between our fathers, and let us transmit this heritage to our children.

You ask us also in your epistle: "Of what people, of what family, and of what tribe are you?" Know that we are descended from Japhet, through his son Togarmah. I have found in the genealogical books of my ancestors that Togarmah had ten sons. These are their names: the eldest was Ujur, the second Tauris, the third Avar, the fourth Uauz, the fifth Bizal, the sixth Tarna, the seventh Kozar, the eighth Janur, the ninth Bulgar, the tenth Sawir. I am a descendant of Kozar, the seventh son.

I have a record that although our fathers were few in number, the Holy One blessed be He, gave them strength, power, and might so that they were able to carry on war after war with many nations who were more powerful and numerous than they. By the help of God they drove them out and took possession of their country. Upon some of them they have imposed forced labor even to this very day. The land in which I now live was formerly occupied by the Bulgars. Our ancestors, the Khazars, came and fought with them, and, although these Bulgars were as numerous as the sand on the shores of the sea, they could not withstand the Khazars. So they left their country and fled while the Khazars pursued them as far as the Danube River. Up to this very day the Bulgars camp along the Danube and are close to Constantinople. The Khazars have occupied their land up till now.

After this, several generations passed until a certain King arose whose name was Bulan. He was a wise and God-fearing man, trusting in his Creator with all his heart. He expelled the wizards and idolaters from the land and took refuge in the shadow of his wings . . . After this his fame was spread broadcast. The king of the Romans and the Arabs who had heard of him sent their envoys and ambassadors with great riches and many great presents to the King as well as some of their wise men with the object of converting him to their own religion.

But the King-may his soul be bound up in the bundle of life With the Lord his God-being wise, sent for a learned Israelite. the King searched, inquired, and investigated carefully and brought the sages together that they might argue about their respective religions. Each of them refuted, however, the arguments of his opponent so that they could not agree. When the King saw this he said to them: "Go home, but return to me on the third day…"

On the third day he called all the sages together and said to them. "Speak and argue with one another and make clear to me which is the best religion." They began to dispute with one another without arriving at any results until the King said to the Christian priest "What do you think? Of the religion of the Jews and the Muslims, which is to be preferred?" The priest answered: "The religion of the Israelites is better than that of the Muslims."

The King then asked the qadi: "What do you say? Is the religion of the Israelites, or that of the Christians preferable?" The qadi answered: "The religion of the Israelites is preferable."

Upon this the King said: "If this is so, you both have admitted with your own mouths that the religion of the Israelites is better Wherefore, trusting in the mercies of God and the power of the Almighty, I choose the religion of Israel, that is, the religion of Abraham. If that God in whom I trust, and in the shadow of whose wings I find refuge, will aid me, He can give me without labor the money, the gold, and the silver which you have promised me. As for you all, go now in peace to your land."

From that time on the Almighty helped Bulan, fortified him, and strengthened him. He circumcised himself, his servants, attendants, and ail his people. Then Bulan sent for and brought from all places wise men of Israel who interpreted the Torah for him and arranged the precepts in order, and up to this very day we have been subject to this religion. May God's name be blessed and may His remembrance be exalted for ever!

Since that day, when my fathers entered into this religion, the God of Israel has humbled all of their enemies, subjecting every folk and tongue round about them, whether Christian, Muslim, or pagan. No one has been able to stand before them to this day [about 960]. All of them are tributary.

After the days of Bulan there arose one of his descendants, a king Obadiah by name, who reorganized the kingdom and established the Jewish religion properly and correctly. He built synagogues and yeshivot, brought in Jewish scholars, and rewarded them with gold and silver. They explained to him the Bible, Mishnah, Talmud and the order of divine services. The King was a man who revered and loved the Torah. He was one of the true servants of God. May the Divine Spirit give him rest!

He was succeeded by Hezekiah, his son; next to him was Manasseh, his son; next to him was Hanukkah, the brother of Obadiah; next Isaac, his son; afterwards, his son Zebulun; then his son Moses; then his son Nissi; then his son Aaron; then his son Menahem; then his son Benjamin; then his son Aaron II; and I, Joseph, the son of Aaron the King, am King, the son of a King, and the descendant of kings. No stranger can occupy the throne of my ancestors: the son succeeds the father. This has been our custom and the custom of our forefathers since they have come into existence. May it be the gracious will of Him who appoints all kings that the throne of my kingdom shall endure to all eternity.

You have also asked me about the affairs of my country and the extent of my empire. I wish to inform you that I dwell by the banks of the river known as the Itil [Volga]. At the mouth of the river lies the Caspian Sea. The headwaters of the river turn eastward, a journey of four months distance.

Alongside the river dwell many tribes in cities and towns, in open as well as fortified places.... Bear in mind that I dwell at the delta of the Itil and, by God's help, I guard the mouth of the river and do not permit the Russians who come in ships to enter into the Caspian so as to get at the Muslims. Nor do I allow any of their enemies who come by land to penetrate as far as Derbend. I have to wage war with them, for if I would give them any chance at all they would lay waste the whole land of the Muslims as far as Baghdad. . .

You have also asked me about the place where I live. I wish to inform you that, by the grace of God, I dwell alongside this river On which there are situated three capital cities. The queen dwells in one of them; it is my birthplace. It is quite large, built round like a Circle, the diameter of which is fifty parasangs.

Jews, Christians, and Moslems live in the second city. Besides these there are many slaves of all nations in it. It is of medium size, eight square parasangs in length and breadth.

In the third I reside with my princes, officers, servants, cupbearers and those who are close to me. It is round in shape and its diameter is three parasangs. The river flows within its walls. This is my residence during the winter. From the month of Nisan [March-April] on we leave the city and each one goes forth to his vineyards, fields and to his work....

You mention in your letter that you yearn to see my face. I also would very much like to see your pleasant countenance and the rare beauty of your wisdom and greatness. Would that it were according to your word. If it were granted me to be associated with you and to behold your honored, charming, and pleasant countenance then you would be my father and I your son. According to your command would all my people be ruled, and according to your order and discreet counsel would I conduct all my affairs. Farewell.
 

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1.05, Latest Beta.
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Muslims-Pagans (and Jews) playable mod, obviously.
No cheats or reloads.
Plus my own modifications- I have made Cumans Turkish, and have reassigned the Cuman tag as "Khazar", and introduced a series of Jewish names (tried very hard not to be anarchronistic with these, most are biblical).
If possible, I would also like to change the last names of random courtiers and the titles of Jewish leaders (Khagan for king, Elteber for Duke, Tudun for count). If anyone knows how to do these things, please let me know. I would like to implement these of possible before I really get cracking, but I have played a couple of test games and know that there is a lot of fun to be had with this nation.
 
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Ooh! Khazaria! :eek:

I've always wanted to see something about them! Fascinating bit of history there. And impressive use of MS Paint!
 

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Looks very good, any chance of you posting your list of Khazar characternames ?

Sadly enought you can't mod the jewish titles, they are hardcoded to be count, duke and king. Only, Pagans, Muslims, Turks, Catholic and Orthodox have specific titles. So the jews get the catholic titles. You can find the titles in

Crusader kings/config/text.csv file.

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One advice, screenshots are dumped as .bmp files, if you open them with a program like Paint or Irfanview you can then save them as a .jpg file and then upload them on to your site. The screenshots now are very large memory wise.
 

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Anonymous: MS Paint... what a fun program. Maybe the Khagan can use it to activate a sheep weapon to conquer Central Asia.

Veldmaarschalk: Thanks for the advice! I notice that there are hardcoded titles called "Archduke, Archduchess" and "Lady, Lord"... can they be stolen? Alternatively, is there a way to appropriate the Turkish titles and give them the Arabic?

At your request, I've posted the Khazar names in the Mod forum. See:
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5396431#post5396431
 

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General Dayan said:
Anonymous: MS Paint... what a fun program. Maybe the Khagan can use it to activate a sheep weapon to conquer Central Asia.

Veldmaarschalk: Thanks for the advice! I notice that there are hardcoded titles called "Archduke, Archduchess" and "Lady, Lord"... can they be stolen? Alternatively, is there a way to appropriate the Turkish titles and give them the Arabic?

At your request, I've posted the Khazar names in the Mod forum. See:
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5396431#post5396431

Archduke and so on are left overs from the development stage of the game, no one has yet found a way to use them, so I doubt they can be used.

I don't know if it is possible to use the Turkish titles, since the titles for the Jews are determind by their religion not theit culture. So given them the turkish titles would mean that they no longer can be Jews.
 

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A very interesting start. I will be watching.
 

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OK, so bad news guys. This was an awful time to start an AAR... I'm leaving the country tomorrow, and I won't be back till the beginning of June. This AAR will probably continue then.

I think you'll enjoy the Alan War, though. The Khagan is taking the advice of a northern tradesman he encountered, Pyotr Eppsn: when in doubt- go for the throat...
 

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That's too bad; I was looking forward to seeing a Jewish Khazar-dominated Central Europe! I'm sure the Alan War will be a fun read, though.

BTW, where are you going, Gen. Dayan?
 

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What a shame !

But it is good to know, that you 'will be back' :cool:
 

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I concur. We'll be waiting.
 

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That's too bad; I was looking forward to seeing a Jewish Khazar-dominated Central Europe! I'm sure the Alan War will be a fun read, though.

BTW, where are you going, Gen. Dayan?

To Israel, appropriately enough. Don't worry, the Khaganate will return.

Small gripe with the game: there's a massive prestige hit for breaking truce with heatherns in 1.05. What's up with that?
 

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General Dayan said:
To Israel, appropriately enough. Don't worry, the Khaganate will return.

Small gripe with the game: there's a massive prestige hit for breaking truce with heatherns in 1.05. What's up with that?

You get a -100 prestige hit everytime you break a truce. It doesn't matter if it is a truce with someone of your own religion group or with a religious enemy.

The truce ends when one of the rulers who was in the war dies.

It is there to prevent people from declaring war over and over again on religious enemies. Since you could defeat them without conquering there lands and wait till they offer you there treasury and then immediately declare war and take their lands, without negative effects.
 

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Very nice, this should be very interesting.
 

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OK, so bad news guys. This was an awful time to start an AAR... I'm leaving the country tomorrow, and I won't be back till the beginning of June. This AAR will probably continue then.

I think you'll enjoy the Alan War, though. The Khagan is taking the advice of a northern tradesman he encountered, Pyotr Eppsn: when in doubt- go for the throat...

you back yet General Dayan!!
 

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He last logged on three days ago.
 

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I wouldn't know about that. invertigo2004's AAR has been dead a year and he's been logging in all the time. :(