A law change my ruler likes... but he can't vote yes.

[Secret Master]

So, I've been trying to do two things at once in my Greater Armenia game: get myself to imperial government form, and move my noble obligations to 100% tax.

Obviously, I can't vote on new laws every five seconds, so I've been focusing on removing council power. I've got them down to nothing but the ability to vote.

Five minutes after I call a council vote on a change (by extending favors), another vassal will call in my favor and demand a vote... on moving noble obligations towards taxes. Normally, I'd be blocking such a move, but in this case, I want the law change. But I can't seem to vote yes on the law change, because my vassal used a favor on me to get the council to vote.

Am I just missing a "vote yes on proposition 3" button for the liege? Or is the game just assuming that my ruler, by definition, would vote against a law change? I know I'm voting no, because I'm on the no list. But I'd really like
the law to pass.

Help?

 

[Alliegorical]

I believe that once a vote is cast (as yours was cast automatically), it cannot be changed. This is something I'm betting they'll improve in an upcoming patch. A quick popup asking how the ruler feels about the law wouldn't be a bad idea.

 

[DukeDayve]

If a vassal called a favour on you to bring the vote you should already be voting yes automatically. One of my vassals did the same to me - called a favour to start a vote - and I was automatically voting yes on his side, which I couldn't change. Can't remember the law though.

 

[Secret Master]

If a vassal called a favour on you to bring the vote you should already be voting yes automatically. One of my vassals did the same to me - called a favour to start a vote - and I was automatically voting yes on his side, which I couldn't change. Can't remember the law though.

Weird.

I wonder if my "no" vote was on the table, because I had three vassals still under the "council support to ruler because they owe him a favor" effect from the law change I executed. All of them were voting no to the proposed law change.

And the law failed to pass twice last night, starting the cooldown both times so I couldn't do what I wanted with it. :shakes tiny fist:

 

[bigbabybowser]

Weird.

I wonder if my "no" vote was on the table, because I had three vassals still under the "council support to ruler because they owe him a favor" effect from the law change I executed. All of them were voting no to the proposed law change.

And the law failed to pass twice last night, starting the cooldown both times so I couldn't do what I wanted with it. :shakes tiny fist:

It was! You can count them by looking at the see who voted button. My vassal called in a vote to levy focused nobles (something I wanted) but I auto vote no. Now when the law gets reject (it would've passed if I got to vote) there's even going to be a penalty cooldown before *I* can call the vote -_- This is silly. Not to mention any favors you call in will also vote against it - not for it. There's nothing you can do but smack your forehead and watch. (Or I suppose you could quickly make your councillers angry so they'll vote "against" you. But I haven't tested it)

 

[josefrees]

What did the councilor who used a favor on you vote for?

Maybe he got the favor and used it to bring up a vote on something just to block you from becoming absolute

 

[Secret Master]

What did the councilor who used a favor on you vote for?

Maybe he got the favor and used it to bring up a vote on something just to block you from becoming absolute

I'd love to tell you, but since I posted this thread back in February, I have no idea.

This is why thread necromancy is problematic.