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Can't say I'm not disappointed. I just hope that Paradox makes a Cold War political type game in the near future. Judging by what they've done for CKII with India, moving back the starting date to 867, and adding some alternative history I'd hope they'd extend the timeline in HOI4, but including all the cold war politics might be hard starting in WW2.
 

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I really hope that indiegogo campaign is legit.... But even then a goal of 480k would be too hard to get. Especially since it is running on indiegogo which is less popular than Kickstarter.

He gets to keep all money even if he doesn't reach his goal, when he uses indiegogo...
 

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Why? They tried hard to make a fun game. They didn't take your money. They didn't get the game to a point where both they and PI would be comfortable releasing it, but trying and failing is not a reason for shame.
Why keep them up, they have nothing to be proud of. All they have are missed dates and a half finished product.
 

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This thread is seriously derailing into personal attacks both on other users and developers etc, as well as the more and more frequent foul language.

If you don't start behaving and showing that you are able to keep a civil discussion and respect for other users, the banhammer is going to be wielded en masse and this thread and forum will be shut down completely!


It's okay to be frustrated and angry over what happened and express your disappointment in a civilized way. This does not mean you are allowed to behave like that!
 

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So this is it.

At this point you consider the game to be too poorly even for an open beta with a donation option, sometimes known as "Early Access".
I highly doubt that Steam really puts some barriers in your way, it isnt the first time they distribute buggy alpha software why would they refuse EvW?
Its no long ago that Steam released the spirital succesor to "Supreme Commander" as "Early Access" for 80€!
Yes thats 80€ for a beta with bugs and unfinished gameplay.
Steam lets almost anyone on board!

I choose not to believe that Steam is the major problem here.

I think that you just dont want the title...enough.
The costs are deemed to great, all of a sudden.
And thousands of man hourse are lost and many many fans severly dissapointed.
Including yours truly.

Were does that leave us in the end?
Your shelf now contains one title less I would have gladly paid full price for.
And I dont exactly feel like throwing money at games that come nowhere near replacing what EvW could have been.
 

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Is there a way paradox can carry the project somehow ? It's a shame no one even tryed to see how much financial support from the community the game could have had.

Even more frustrating, the dev team a few hours ago said there were only polish to be done, hell I was ready to give a lot of money and feedback for this project to happen.

The only decent cold war game that could have existed.
 

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This is stunning to me,

as one of those people who is a history nut, and would have LOVED to buy everything for this game, i really hoped it would have come to light.

i seriously hope something else can be made from the ashes of this, i have no doubt in my mind that we have not seen the last of a Cold War Era game from Paradox/any other company they decide to publish for.

Resquiat in pace, East vs West

You will be missed, and loved.

PS: THANK YOU to Paradox and BL Logic for attempting to bring what could have been a fantastic game to us. Still love you guys and gals who did the best they could to bring the game to light!
 

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there must be something that can be done to save the game...........
 

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He gets to keep all money even if he doesn't reach his goal, when he uses indiegogo...
oh I think it's not very legit.
I just watched the video and what I see he keeps telling and stuff and stuff. If it was legit they had atleast some kind of script how to market it.
As much as I don't want to ruin everyones hopes it seems to be scam
 

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What are you talking about? What money? Who gave who 100 ?
 

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okay so I am seeing infighting within the development team.... guess we know what happened.


this is a real shame because I am pretty sure this project will mark the end of modders making clauzwitz engine games. The great experiment has ended.

Also I would have equally loved to see this game
 

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You obviously have a beta version that doesn't require steam, just give us a link to that
 

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After all the cast iron assurances that this wasn't another MM and within 1-2 weeks of the planned Beta release this is pretty low Pdox. I joined the forums just for this game checking them weekly if not daily for updates for about a year this announcement is, to say the least, disappointing. Is there nothing that can be done? Will the developers still have access to the steam client? If so can't you just add forum members to it as official alpha 'testers' thereby bypassing the need to actually release it but still avoiding the backlash of this blow to one of the most loyal fan bases I have ever seen? Paradox I beg of you, do something! If not a private release to the fans then can you at-least publish the remaining DDs? While I understand that you need to defend your IP and source code can you not release the devs of some parts of their NDAs to allow them to talk more freely?

Also you could make NDA's a requirement. I would totally be willing to sign! As a coder in the games industry (well 3rd year uni, close connections to indy) I have heard of what happens to NDA breakers!
 
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