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So, I reformed the Romuva faith and created a Custom Empire.


Well, there have been a few Great Holy Wars, and the are two other Romuva kingdoms, both are ruled by my family members. Also, most of my vassals are part of my family. Originally, Romuva characters were relatively rare, and my family war pretty large, so they were my main candidates for vassalage.

Well, I am very protective of my titles. So, I have married my children to cousins and half siblings for many generations.

I started the game in 769, and it's 1066 now, very few characters have the Inbred trait.

Anyway, now my family members are marrying themselves to other members of my dynasty, without my matchmaking skills ;)

I'm not complaining, the less amount of foreigners who have claims on my titles, the better!


But two questions,

1: Will my dynasty, which is floating around 150 characters currently, eventually crash and burn?
2: Is the A.I. programmed to do this?
 

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So, I reformed the Romuva faith and created a Custom Empire.


Well, there have been a few Great Holy Wars, and the are two other Romuva kingdoms, both are ruled by my family members. Also, most of my vassals are part of my family. Originally, Romuva characters were relatively rare, and my family war pretty large, so they were my main candidates for vassalage.

Well, I am very protective of my titles. So, I have married my children to cousins and half siblings for many generations.

I started the game in 769, and it's 1066 now, very few characters have the Inbred trait.

Anyway, now my family members are marrying themselves to other members of my dynasty, without my matchmaking skills ;)

I'm not complaining, the less amount of foreigners who have claims on my titles, the better!


But two questions,

1: Will my dynasty, which is floating around 150 characters currently, eventually crash and burn?
2: Is the A.I. programmed to do this?
If you are monopolizing titles and land in your dynasty, where else are the AI offspring going to find their equal in prestige and power? For example, how many other characters outside your realm/dynasty are a relative of an emperor? Anything less is a prestige hit when it comes to marriage or political considerations.
 
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If you are monopolizing titles and land in your dynasty, where else are the AI offspring going to find their equal in prestige and power? For example, how many other characters outside your realm/dynasty are a relative of an emperor? Anything less is a prestige hit when it comes to marriage or political considerations.

They should go to Africa to find their wives.
 
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I've had that happen before. The AI prefers same culture, same religion spouses with high ranking relatives. If nearly all of the nobles of your religion and culture are part of your dynasty, then your vassals will tend to marry within the family.
 
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If you are monopolizing titles and land in your dynasty, where else are the AI offspring going to find their equal in prestige and power? For example, how many other characters outside your realm/dynasty are a relative of an emperor? Anything less is a prestige hit when it comes to marriage or political considerations.
Even if you are not monopolizing it seems that your kinsmen acquire other titles by marrying heiresses (whose little brothers seem to die in a suspicious accident a lot of times). I guess dynastic prestige is also a factor in this.
 
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Doesn't the prestige hit apply at two levels of difference in rank (emperor -> duke; or king -> count)?
My current wife as a king is the daughter of a grand mayor (non-Italian doge), who himself is related to an empress regnant (they're second cousins of the same dynasty). I still took a prestige hit for marrying his daughter, who was apparently categorized as a courtier.
 

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Well, I'm and emperor with a SINGLE king vassal. That vassal is the same religion and culture as me, however they're in a different dynasty.

Yet, my foreign relatives marry my Duke level family members. Why not the king?
 

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My current wife as a king is the daughter of a grand mayor (non-Italian doge), who himself is related to an empress regnant (they're second cousins of the same dynasty). I still took a prestige hit for marrying his daughter, who was apparently categorized as a courtier.

I think it only counts close relatives (parent, child, sibling, grandparent, grandchild, aunt/uncle, nephew/niece, cousin). A second cousin already registers simply as "kinsman" so it wouldn't count. And his daughter even less so.
 

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My current wife as a king is the daughter of a grand mayor (non-Italian doge), who himself is related to an empress regnant (they're second cousins of the same dynasty). I still took a prestige hit for marrying his daughter, who was apparently categorized as a courtier.
I believe there is also a prestige hit associated with marrying a republican character (or relative of one) when playing as a feudal character.
 

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I think it only counts close relatives (parent, child, sibling, grandparent, grandchild, aunt/uncle, nephew/niece, cousin). A second cousin already registers simply as "kinsman" so it wouldn't count. And his daughter even less so.
Yeah, I figured the relation to the Khatun of Sacz wouldn't count there, but I thought the grand mayor part might. It wasn't a problem, I had more than enough prestige to absorb a -293 hit, but it was mildly confusing.

I believe there is also a prestige hit associated with marrying a republican character (or relative of one) when playing as a feudal character.
I guess that makes sense. If nothing else, it looks like children of republican rulers, even the one at the top, don't count as "related to a duke" or "related to a baron" despite that being what the game ranks doges and patricians.
 

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after so much (and strong) dynasty members, i'm pretty sure the a.i will hook up to inbreeding because prestige and political factor (and probably the "prefer matrilineal marriage things" factor).