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I didn't believe that this was possible! The Abbasids in my game were rather weak, and they went for the Steppes instead of their de jure territory, but I still can't believe this.

No, I'm not responsible for this, I am responsible for that huge Tan Romuva Blob though.....

I did make the Catholic MA tank a lot, the Fraticelli Papacy took over most of De Jure Italy, and a bunch of Franks went Iconoclast before the Schism.

Have you ever seen this before?
 
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Damn... definitely never seen that in all my 1000hrs. I'm going to go out on a limb and assume what must have happened is that the Abbasids failed (or was at least down for the count for a period of time) and then by some miracle the Byzantine AI decided to holy war the Levant instead of its age-old obsession with Persia and the Steppes. Then I would think somewhere in there a Byzantine vassal in Italy was able to take Rome because the Papacy was out of the picture due to the Fraticelli heretics.

Closest I've ever seen was a game I had ages ago where a random Lombard-turned Italian dynasty usurped Lombardy and then inherited Byzantium. They managed to grab Rome and I think Antioch, but never went deeper into the Levant to get Jerusalem or into Egypt to get Alexandria.
 

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Damn... definitely never seen that in all my 1000hrs. I'm going to go out on a limb and assume what must have happened is that the Abbasids failed (or was at least down for the count for a period of time) and then by some miracle the Byzantine AI decided to holy war the Levant instead of its age-old obsession with Persia and the Steppes. Then I would think somewhere in there a Byzantine vassal in Italy was able to take Rome because the Papacy was out of the picture due to the Fraticelli heretics.

Closest I've ever seen was a game I had ages ago where a random Lombard-turned Italian dynasty usurped Lombardy and then inherited Byzantium. They managed to grab Rome and I think Antioch, but never went deeper into the Levant to get Jerusalem or into Egypt to get Alexandria.

I watched the entire thing unfold. It's quite similar to what you said.


Muslim Side:
Abbasids lost ALL of Persia before 800....
They lost Mesopotamia soon after.
They put all of their resources into North Africa and the Steppes.
Soon, they lost the Empire to the Muhallabids, who somehow lost the Caliphate.
The Muhallabids lost the entire Arabian Peninsula, but captured Nubia. The Muhallabids stretched themselves too thin with the annexation of Nubia, and so they lost the steppes. Their steppe empire was HUGE, like half of De Jure Russia and De Jure Tataria.
But, then the Muhallabids lost the Empire to a Decadence revolt, which made a bunch of people in Palestine and Levant to leave the Empire.
The new Emperors (Forgot their name) had a ridiculous amount of Decadence, and so they had very little troops.
You know the rest.

Byzantine Side:
The Byzantines had a good start, the Slavs in Croatia were annexed before 900. The Serbians, however were a problem. They had made a kingdom that stretched from Serbia to Bulgaria! They converted to Catholicism, and were a problem. The Byzantines SOMEHOW annexed them. I'm not sure how?

Anyway, with the Balkans secured, the byzantines smashed Lombardy and captured all of De Jure Sicily.

They then attacked Armenia, and won easily.

I think they must have fabricated a claim on Rome, because they annexed it in the mid 900s.

They kept expanding further into Armenia, and secured Antioch by 1000.

About then, the Muhallabids took charge, the Byzantines turned North. They annexed Crimea.

They lost Rome, and didn't gain much land until the collapse of the Muhallabids.

They went berserk and destroyed the entire Levant and Jerusalem before 1050.

After that, the Byzantines and the Abyssinians attacked the Empire from the North and South. Abyssinia secured Nubia, the Byzantines, Egypt.

The Empire's few Syrian provinces were ripped apart by their fellow Muslims.

The Byzantines captured Pannonia, (AKA the southern half of Pannonia), and then they attacked Rome again. (They used Holy War against the Fraticellis.)


I still can't believe it...
 

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WOW that is really awesome! I too never seen this before in my games. Nice recap of the events, it's very interesting! Some much to the stable Muslim blobs ;)
 

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can you show the political map mode?

Here ya go...

The Star of the Show:

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Fraticelli Papacy:

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Central Italy fell to an Independence revolt, those counts all went Fraticelli and conquered Rome. The Fraticelli Pope launched a Crusade for italy the same time Italy was being attacked by Western Romuva.
Francia:

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I'm surprised that this area isn't just Border Gore. Aquitaine is actually ruled by the Capets too!

Spain:

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Spain has been Muslim for the entire game, they converted to Christianity like, 2 years ago because Sunni MA was literally 0.0

North Africa:

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The two Islamic nations here are plagued by the Zikiri Heresy....

Arabia:

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Idyani was part of Abyssinia for 20 or so years, seems like a Zikiri Revolt Liberated them very recently.

Middle East:
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Uqaylids are the regional Muslim powerhouse, the Empire title is gone.

Steppes:

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These are the steppes, the Fakhourids and Bajanids are the Muslim super powers up here, These lands were once part of the Empire, and truly led to it's downfall.

Europe:

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I'm responsible for Romuva, Western Romuva, Ruthuva, and Rusuva....
 
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Huh, I didn't think that was even possible. I know for a fact that the AI can't form the Roman Empire - as being a human player is a requirement for it and I thought that was the same with mending the schism.

That's a shame because the Byzzies are only a few duchies away from being able to create the empire too.
 
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I had an observer game going a while back (saves are gone because of mistakes I made :() where the schism was so close to being mended, but the Byzies never expanded into Italy before they saves were lost. I wasn't sure if they could actually take the decision, it's cool that they can.
 

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This is really unique. You've got a treasure of a game there.
 
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Mk, keep in mind that it's not Iron man, (How else was I supposed to reform Romuva?!? :p)

How exactly would I go about doing this?
Uh what? Romuva is probably the easiest religion to reform. I've seen the AI reform it more than any other religion.

Also you did do this, by your actions against the Catholics and other religions. Since you've heavily hurt the ERE enemies and allowed them to spread while leaving them untouched, you have stacked the deck in their favour.
 

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being a human player is a requirement for it
And what's the point of such requirement, I wonder ?
 

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And what's the point of such requirement, I wonder ?

I imagine that if they they got that large, giving them Imperial Reconquest CB's on the rest of Europe that aren't reciprocated (like holy wars), is pretty game breaking. In early starts, AI Byzzies expanding to this size isn't out of the realm of possibility as seen here.

Though if anyone, human or AI, is large enough to reform the empire it's GG anyway. Not much is going to challenge that.