A Helping Hand (Geat Project) Event

[Damedius]

This seems like a waste of money to me. What's the point of this is or is it just not balanced?

It frequently costs more to hire the guy then I would save by hiring him. It seems to scale as well. I just got the event and it was 5197 Ducats to hire him. Seems like a waste of ducats.

 

[Richard-monagha]

It will always scale up and cost you half a years income to get a 25% discount (I think this discount is for all great projects you own for 5 years?). If you have many great projects that you are able to upgrade then it could save you some money maybe? But with it costing you 5.2k then your yearly income is 10.4k? spending money on upgrading any great projects you have won't be a problem anyways. I always tend to get this event when I've already started upgrading them or when I don't have the money for them earlier in the game...

 

[Damedius]

It will always scale up and cost you half a years income to get a 25% discount (I think this discount is for all great projects you own for 5 years?). If you have many great projects that you are able to upgrade then it could save you some money maybe? But with it costing you 5.2k then your yearly income is 10.4k? spending money on upgrading any great projects you have won't be a problem anyways. I always tend to get this event when I've already started upgrading them or when I don't have the money for them earlier in the game...

Yeah my income is 856 ducats a month. Comes out to just under 10.3k per year.

 

[Astalic]

With this rule (6 month for -25%) Price to upgrade are 1000, 2500 and 5000 so a reduction of 25% is -250, -625 and -1250.

This event become useless once your monthly income is more than 41, 104 and 208. Over this you pay more than the reduction.

 

[beaver79]

Does it also give you 25% off the manpower or ducats to hurry buy it? I always assumed it did, but even so I've never accepted it.

 

[heliostellar]

I always get the event in the very early years when I start a new game long before I'm even considering any upgrades to my Great Projects.

 

[LukasYork]

Does it also give you 25% off the manpower or ducats to hurry buy it? I always assumed it did, but even so I've never accepted it.

nope, it doesn't

 

[Dominion]

The timeframe is way too short to make any sense. Nobody sits around waiting for the event to pop before upgrading anything.

Also, nobody has enough cash saved up to make use of it and going into massive debt will offset the benefits you would gain from it.

I have never taken it and can't see myself ever doing so. It's a dead event.

 

[Nostalgium]

Pretty useless, yeah. The only times I've taken it is when I'm making infinite money anyway, and upgrading Great Projects is just idle passtime.

I think it ought to come additionally with a 3-star advisor with reduced cost, since you're ostensibly hiring... you know, a great advisor to help with the project.

 

[The_Boominator]

It is a niche event. Really only practical for countries with small economies (so the scaling doesn't kill you) with large amounts of irregular income, like Spain with treasure ships or Prussia pillaging its larger neighbors. This income will not factor into the scaling cost of the guy, so you can save money on T2 and T3 upgrades. I think the point of the event is to encourage people with a lot of money stockpiled to upgrade their monuments. The event doesn't really have a downside; It's not like the 2 unrest in your capital ever comes to anything.

 

[Dominion]

Personal idea to fix it: Increase the MTTH, then slap a multiplier on it which drastically reduces the MTTH at 1000, 5000 and 10000 saved ducats.

Move it away from "ugh, why am I getting this" into "I wasn't planning on doing that, but now I might be" territory.

This would also motivate people who accumulate coin to engage with the great projects under their control.

 

[heliostellar]

Personal idea to fix it: Increase the MTTH, then slap a multiplier on it which drastically reduces the MTTH at 1000, 5000 and 10000 saved ducats.

Move it away from "ugh, why am I getting this" into "I wasn't planning on doing that, but now I might be" territory.

This would also motivate people who accumulate coin to engage with the great projects under their control.

+1

There are few incentives to actually save up money in the game as it is. This is a small, but decent incentive.

 

[currylambchop]

Remove the event, it’s literally just an unrest event or a forced loan event

 

[Kapi96]

It's a terrible event. Not once have I been in a position to actually save money from it, the amount required is just too high. Plus it only ever seems to fire for me when I don't have enough money on hand to pay for it anyway, so it'd be take a loan to get the event and then have to take more loans just to upgrade a monument. Would've spent more on the event than I saved on the upgrade and would lose a bunch to interest too.