A Great Game...But!!!!

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I'am new to this game( just bought the other day) and it just maytbe one of the best strategy gane I ever played. But there are some thing missing. Small things. The first thing is the lack of specialist units, the people on the Balearic Islands were known for from their skill as slingers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baleares. a other unit is The German Guard, Julius Caesar and Augustus had a personal bodygaurd of cavalrymen from the germanic tribe of Batavi. Or the Praetorian Guard, In the book Nero's Killing Machine by Stephen Dando-Collins, he states that Mark Antony recruited former legionaries for a new Praetorian Guard in 44 BC, And speaking of Mark Antony, is'nt he missing from one or two scenarios...or is it just me.. But it is still a damn good game.

 

[comagoosie]

Mark Anthony is in the game. He is under the name of Marcus Antonius.

 

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I don't thin the Pretorians come along untill after the republic.

 

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I don't thin the Pretorians come along untill after the republic

True in a sort of way, the Praetorians didn't come on to the battlefield until approx. 27BC

 

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I tried to play Antony's side in the last scenario, the war with Octavian. But almost as soon as I started Antony died, which kinda took the fun out of it.

 

[Surt]

I tried to play Antony's side in the last scenario, the war with Octavian. But almost as soon as I started Antony died, which kinda took the fun out of it.

Try starting again, it man's nature to die at inopportune points of time.

 

[Van Diemen]

The first thing is the lack of specialist units.

Well, the game should have had at least one extra unit type (quadriremes and maybe some sort of true heavy cavalry instead of using the cataphracts NI), but more would not be necessary and especially not divisions into velites, archers, slingers etc, that would be more a Total War approach. This game is about Grand Strategy.

 

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i'm still unable to find Marcus Athonius in the caesar's Gallic War scenario, but it is a small thing, perhaps i just going blind . Maybe i'm wrong but was'nt he Caesar's 2ic though the gallic wars ??

And it IS a Great grand strategy game, the best so far.

 

[comagoosie]

The file of Marcus Antonius.txt and it does mention the Gallic wars.

name = "Marcus Antonius"
military = 5
charisma = 6
finesse = 4
birth_province = 93
add_trait = assertive
wealth_change = 500
loyalty_change = 75
popularity_change = 50
culture = roman
religion = roman_pantheon
employer_country = ROM
family_name = "Antonii"

father = {
	id = 100516
	idtype = 44
} # Marcus Antonius Creticus
mother = {
	id = 100624
	idtype = 44
} # Julia Antonia

671.1.1 = { birth = 671.1.1 }
676.1.1 = {
	add_friend = {
		id = 100424
		idtype = 44
	}
} # Lucius Antonius
700.1.1 = { military = 6 } # The Gallic wars
704.1.1 = { popularity_change = 60 } # Tribune of the people
705.1.10 = {
	employer_country = RO2
	add_rival = {
		id = 100382
		idtype = 44
	}
} # Marcus Tullius Cicero
706.1.1 = {
	add_spouse = {
		id = 100597
		idtype = 44
	}
	popularity_change = 70
} # Fulvia Flacca Bambula. Magister Equitum
709.3.17 = { employer_country = ROM } # The Battle of Munda
710.3.15 = {
	add_friend = {
		id = 100379
		idtype = 44
	}
	add_friend = {
		id = 100409
		idtype = 44
	}
	add_friend = {
		id = 100411
		idtype = 44
	}
	add_friend = {
		id = 100458
		idtype = 44
	}
	add_friend = {
		id = 100459
		idtype = 44
	}
	add_friend = {
		id = 100422
		idtype = 44
	}
	add_friend = {
		id = 100423
		idtype = 44
	}
} # Lucius Julius Caesar, Quintus Fufius Calenus, Marcus Aemilius Lepidus, Publius Ventidius Bassus
  # Gaius Sosius, Lucius Cornelius Cinna & Lucius Munatius Plancus
# 710.3.15 - Suffect
711.1.1 = {
	remove_friend = {
		id = 100379
		idtype = 44
	}
	add_friend = {
		id = 100431
		idtype = 44
	}
} # Lucius' and Marcus' alliance don't last long. Publius Alfenus Varus
711.11.26 = {
	add_friend = {
		id = 100419
		idtype = 44
	}
} # Gaius Octavius, the Second Triumvirate
712.10.25 = {
	add_friend = {
		id = 100461
		idtype = 44
	}	
} # Marcus Valerius Messalla
713.1.1 = {
	add_friend = {
		id = 110028
		idtype = 44
	}
} # Cleopatra VII
714.1.1 = {
	remove_spouse = {
		id = 100597
		idtype = 44
	}
}
714.1.1 = {
	add_spouse = {
		id = 100614
		idtype = 44
	}
} # Octavia Thurina Minor
716.1.1 = {
	add_friend = {
		id = 100416
		idtype = 44
	}
} # Publius Cornelius Dolabella
717.1.1 = {
	add_friend = {
		id = 100457
		idtype = 44
	}
	military = 5
} # Defeated by the Parthians. Gnaeus Domitius Ahenobarbus
# 719 - Consul
719.1.1 = {
	remove_friend = {
		id = 100423
		idtype = 44
	}
	add_rival = {
		id = 100423
		idtype = 44
	}
} # Lucius Munatius Plancus
719.5.1 = { military = 6 } # Armenia is conquered
722.4.1 = {
	employer_country = RO2
	remove_spouse = {
		id = 100614
		idtype = 44
	}
	remove_friend = {
		id = 100419
		idtype = 44
	}
	add_rival = {
		id = 100419
		idtype = 44
	}
	remove_friend = {
		id = 100461
		idtype = 44
	}
	add_rival = {
		id = 100461
		idtype = 44
	}
	add_friend = {
		id = 100439
		idtype = 44
	}
	add_friend = {
		id = 100425
		idtype = 44
	}
} # Gaius Octavius and Marcus Antonius become bitter enemies. Lucius Gellius Publicola and Gaius Asinius Pollio
723.8.1  = {
	remove_friend = {
		id = 100457
		idtype = 44
	}
	add_rival = {
		id = 100457
		idtype = 44
	}
} # Gnaeus Domitius Ahenobarbus ally with Octavian
723.9.2 = { military = 5 } # The Battle of Actium
723.10.1 = {
	remove_friend = {
		id = 100458
		idtype = 44
	}
} # Gaius Sosius is pardoned by Octavian
724.9.3  = { death = 724.9.3 }

 

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The file of Marcus Antonius.txt and it does mention the Gallic wars.

name = "Marcus Antonius"
military = 5
charisma = 6
finesse = 4
birth_province = 93
add_trait = assertive
wealth_change = 500
loyalty_change = 75
popularity_change = 50
culture = roman
religion = roman_pantheon
employer_country = ROM
family_name = "Antonii"

father = {
	id = 100516
	idtype = 44
} # Marcus Antonius Creticus
mother = {
	id = 100624
	idtype = 44
} # Julia Antonia

671.1.1 = { birth = 671.1.1 }
676.1.1 = {
	add_friend = {
		id = 100424
		idtype = 44
	}
} # Lucius Antonius
700.1.1 = { military = 6 } # The Gallic wars
704.1.1 = { popularity_change = 60 } # Tribune of the people
705.1.10 = {
	employer_country = RO2
	add_rival = {
		id = 100382
		idtype = 44
	}
} # Marcus Tullius Cicero
706.1.1 = {
	add_spouse = {
		id = 100597
		idtype = 44
	}
	popularity_change = 70
} # Fulvia Flacca Bambula. Magister Equitum
709.3.17 = { employer_country = ROM } # The Battle of Munda
710.3.15 = {
	add_friend = {
		id = 100379
		idtype = 44
	}
	add_friend = {
		id = 100409
		idtype = 44
	}
	add_friend = {
		id = 100411
		idtype = 44
	}
	add_friend = {
		id = 100458
		idtype = 44
	}
	add_friend = {
		id = 100459
		idtype = 44
	}
	add_friend = {
		id = 100422
		idtype = 44
	}
	add_friend = {
		id = 100423
		idtype = 44
	}
} # Lucius Julius Caesar, Quintus Fufius Calenus, Marcus Aemilius Lepidus, Publius Ventidius Bassus
  # Gaius Sosius, Lucius Cornelius Cinna & Lucius Munatius Plancus
# 710.3.15 - Suffect
711.1.1 = {
	remove_friend = {
		id = 100379
		idtype = 44
	}
	add_friend = {
		id = 100431
		idtype = 44
	}
} # Lucius' and Marcus' alliance don't last long. Publius Alfenus Varus
711.11.26 = {
	add_friend = {
		id = 100419
		idtype = 44
	}
} # Gaius Octavius, the Second Triumvirate
712.10.25 = {
	add_friend = {
		id = 100461
		idtype = 44
	}	
} # Marcus Valerius Messalla
713.1.1 = {
	add_friend = {
		id = 110028
		idtype = 44
	}
} # Cleopatra VII
714.1.1 = {
	remove_spouse = {
		id = 100597
		idtype = 44
	}
}
714.1.1 = {
	add_spouse = {
		id = 100614
		idtype = 44
	}
} # Octavia Thurina Minor
716.1.1 = {
	add_friend = {
		id = 100416
		idtype = 44
	}
} # Publius Cornelius Dolabella
717.1.1 = {
	add_friend = {
		id = 100457
		idtype = 44
	}
	military = 5
} # Defeated by the Parthians. Gnaeus Domitius Ahenobarbus
# 719 - Consul
719.1.1 = {
	remove_friend = {
		id = 100423
		idtype = 44
	}
	add_rival = {
		id = 100423
		idtype = 44
	}
} # Lucius Munatius Plancus
719.5.1 = { military = 6 } # Armenia is conquered
722.4.1 = {
	employer_country = RO2
	remove_spouse = {
		id = 100614
		idtype = 44
	}
	remove_friend = {
		id = 100419
		idtype = 44
	}
	add_rival = {
		id = 100419
		idtype = 44
	}
	remove_friend = {
		id = 100461
		idtype = 44
	}
	add_rival = {
		id = 100461
		idtype = 44
	}
	add_friend = {
		id = 100439
		idtype = 44
	}
	add_friend = {
		id = 100425
		idtype = 44
	}
} # Gaius Octavius and Marcus Antonius become bitter enemies. Lucius Gellius Publicola and Gaius Asinius Pollio
723.8.1  = {
	remove_friend = {
		id = 100457
		idtype = 44
	}
	add_rival = {
		id = 100457
		idtype = 44
	}
} # Gnaeus Domitius Ahenobarbus ally with Octavian
723.9.2 = { military = 5 } # The Battle of Actium
723.10.1 = {
	remove_friend = {
		id = 100458
		idtype = 44
	}
} # Gaius Sosius is pardoned by Octavian
724.9.3  = { death = 724.9.3 }

Alrightythen, he most be there somewhere????!!!!!

 

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Historically, Antony didn't join Caesar in Gaul until 54 B.C., the fifth year of the war. If anybody could be considered Caesar's second-in-command at the time it would have been Labienus.

 

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Okay, I has wrong....

 

[Star_Wolf]

The pretorian guard were introduced after Octivans Caeser became emperor. they became the official "Elite" and guard units of the emperor. only that those Pretorians in the following centruies began to interfere increasly in the emprie agenda. helping userpes to claim the title Emperor if they were guaranteed money. the emperor Septimius savross ceased their exsitnce once he took the empire.

 

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well, apparently that depends on the source. And my source says that Mark Antony created the PG in 44 BC. And perhaps the definition of when a unit can be called praetorian guard or what a praetorian guard unit is

 

[Battlecry]

The pretorian guard were introduced after Octivans Caeser became emperor. they became the official "Elite" and guard units of the emperor. only that those Pretorians in the following centruies began to interfere increasly in the emprie agenda. helping userpes to claim the title Emperor if they were guaranteed money. the emperor Septimius savross ceased their exsitnce once he took the empire.

Actually praetorian guards existed long before Octavian. They were instituted as generals' bodyguards (from the term praetorium which refers to a general's tent), and first mentioned in the early third century BCE. Octavian vastly expanded their role, and their size expanded accordingly.

 

[CHAINSAW]

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Alrightythen, he most be there somewhere????!!!!!

A little off-topic: when replying to long messages with game scripts or coding please don't quote the whole darn thing - you are causing me to wear off highly valuable skin cells from my mouse-wheel spinning index finger!

 

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Praetorians

True in a sort of way, the Praetorians didn't come on to the battlefield until approx. 27BC

And then the Praetorians rarely came onto any battlefield !

The Praetorian Guard existed to guard the Emperor and rarely left Rome. They didn't go on campaign and only fought in and around Rome. If / when the Emperor left Rome he would take along the German Guard Cavalry and leave to Praetorians to ensure stability and loyalty back in Rome.

Praetorians = overpaid thugs in gaudy uniforms.