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I have owned this game since the day it was released in sweden, strangely enough I have barely plated it at all. I'm going to try get into the game this week and would like to know if there are ny interesting minors to play, and why you find them interesting.
 

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Well, the technology thing is kind of weighted against minor countries, though some are interesting. Basically, you want someone relatively isolated, with a lot of low-IC provinces (which you can upgrade a bit, possibly doubling your IC by the outbreak of war if you play the '36 scenario.)

The countries that most fit that description are Australia, Brazil, Mexico and Canada.
 

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Finland or Sweden
Both have extra resources, especially Sweden, so you can trade up good stockpiles for when the war starts.
Both have decent technology, especially Finland, to start with.
Both have some industrial capacity so you can do some research and build some infantry.
You will not be able to dominate the world, but you know what is coming from the east. Finland knows that is and Sweden will of course help out her brotherland...
 

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Brazil or Argentina: you are big, you are far from any major, you can eat some little countries......

Turkey: you are the key to middle east and its oil fields.

:) Luxembourg: did anyone try a game with it?
 
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Romania. Decent size, can build quite large army. Next to Russia, can help ze Germans when it comes time for Barbarossa. Few minors within reach, so you can grab some extra land too.

really like romania.. only problem i have with them is that it seems impossible to take over
any of the other close minors withouth germany or italy DOW you. Usually research tech
until i can ally with germany and then go on a DOW spree :cool:

anyone know any tricks to DOW them other minors withouth you entering the axis alliance and have germany/italy NOT DOW you ?

nappy
 

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Luxembourg only has 10 manpower and gets .3 monthly : ( I tried a game but could only build a few militias.

Luxemburg survives on the whim of Germany. If you can ally with Germany you can survive, without that, you perish. I managed to get an alliance with them (long time ago). I had no army until my paratroopers were deployed in 1940. Germany invaded France though my country so I ended up with most of France, then Spain and Portagul. I built some ships and invaded Canada and then the US.
 

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Ratrick said:
Luxemburg survives on the whim of Germany. If you can ally with Germany you can survive, without that, you perish. I managed to get an alliance with them (long time ago). I had no army until my paratroopers were deployed in 1940. Germany invaded France though my country so I ended up with most of France, then Spain and Portagul. I built some ships and invaded Canada and then the US.
haha now that's funny.
 

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Ratrick said:
Luxemburg survives on the whim of Germany. If you can ally with Germany you can survive, without that, you perish. I managed to get an alliance with them (long time ago). I had no army until my paratroopers were deployed in 1940. Germany invaded France though my country so I ended up with most of France, then Spain and Portagul. I built some ships and invaded Canada and then the US.

Yes, that is the only change of doing so...I tried that too, but the Germans didn't want to ally with me, and just overrun me before anything else(even Poland hold out longer)
 

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nappy said:
really like romania.. only problem i have with them is that it seems impossible to take over
any of the other close minors withouth germany or italy DOW you. Usually research tech
until i can ally with germany and then go on a DOW spree :cool:

anyone know any tricks to DOW them other minors withouth you entering the axis alliance and have germany/italy NOT DOW you ?

nappy

Get Military Access from them. If they grant MA, thay can't DoW you. In a game with Nat. Spain I used that trick heavily. With MA from Italy, France, UK, USA and Japan, I conquered virtually every neutral country in the world, exept Tibet. It works like a charm.
 

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Try Yugoslavia. First do some conquering than become part of any major alliance.
Tips (if I may) :D
DoW Albania, annex it; then Hungary...
Finish the conquest of Balkans with Greece and then decide which side you wanna play for.
 

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Ratrick said:
Luxemburg survives on the whim of Germany. If you can ally with Germany you can survive, without that, you perish. I managed to get an alliance with them (long time ago). I had no army until my paratroopers were deployed in 1940. Germany invaded France though my country so I ended up with most of France, then Spain and Portagul. I built some ships and invaded Canada and then the US.

How do you get more manpower other than the .3 monthly Luxembourg starts getting? Do they have a minister to give them some from occupied provinces? Or does capturing a capital give you manpower as well as rescources?
 

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I'd always go with Turkey simply because of its superb strategic position. Go east and you can invade Europe, west through Persia and onto British India, north for an invasion of the USSR (a border that's easy to maintain with a few forts in the mountains) and moving south you can occupy the largest oil reserves in the world.

The fact that Turkey is more advanced than France and has a better starting army than most nations helps too :)
 

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Ethiopia and Poland: try to survive - it's possible btw.
NL: give the Germans a good fight
Romania: help Germany (and get angry when bitter peace fires); Btw. to help annex some surrounding minors, use the mil access exploit (ask for mil access, move your troops to the VP provinces, then cancel mil access and DOW one week later, annexation should be possible before the SOI-events fire) to get some extra ICs (it's an exploit, but you could call it alternate history for balkan unification or so ;) ).
 

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I say that the best country is Ireland. I mean by 1936 you should have 7 solid divisions, a tansports and if your lucky one of them pretty crusiers. You play a small but important supporting role. Its actually pretty fun.
 

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Ratrick said:
Luxemburg survives on the whim of Germany. If you can ally with Germany you can survive, without that, you perish. I managed to get an alliance with them (long time ago). I had no army until my paratroopers were deployed in 1940. Germany invaded France though my country so I ended up with most of France, then Spain and Portagul. I built some ships and invaded Canada and then the US.

LOL. That's gotta be a record for the highest ratio of end/start VPs ever!
 
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someone here suggested trying turkey... so i thought id give it a shot....
started out nice enough. did some research whilst having a few IC on constructing new units as well. scuttled mostof my fleet and build industries
in some of my provinces.

All went well until 1940, when i finaly could declare war on someone.
having looked at the map i decided to take iraq first cause of the nice oil fields.
so...what do u think happends when i declare war on iraq ??????
80% dissident hit :eek:

after having conguered them by using the filty disgusting tactic of using military access then declare war i used almost 1 1/2 year to get it down to 0 again.
by that time the germans still haddent declared war on russia. the frensh
still had a foothold i europe (they had taken back almost half of france) and the english had invaded bulgaria.

i looked at the map, my tech, my 11 inf units and 6 planes... looked at the map...let it run for a few days to get the feel of the battle.. saw that the germans declared war on russia.. waited some more.. saw that italy was conquered by the english..the german attack on russia was halted just barely outside poland...and basically decided the quit the game.....

net result.. sh*t load of oil, steel and coal. lousy tech and few units..
conclusion ? no more turkey for me.

(using 1.06c and CORE)

nappy

did some thinking.. maybe just maybe i could pull it off if i joined the axis in
1940 to avoid the dissident hit...problem is the large amount of provinces i have to guard against possible beach landings.....hmm..maybe if i joined the allies..hmmmmm
 
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I'm in the middle of fun game as India with CORE. I started as the UK and released India. Then, I went into the save game file and moved a few generals and admirals from the UK to India. As India, I had ~100 IC and all the technology of the UK. There was an event in CORE that brought me into the Allies a few days after independence, so I was able to take advantage of some tech transfers. I built up a small fleet (a battleship, a battlecruiser, a trio of pocket battleships, a half dozen destroyers, and a bunch of subs) and an army of about a dozen infantry divisions.

It's 1942 now. My army did well in North Africa, helping the British take Tripoli. The army was out-teched by the Italians, but quantity is a quality of its own. My navy gained control of the South China Sea for a while, until the Japanese transferred a half-dozen capital ships there. My subs and destroyers are at the bottom of the ocean and my cruisers (ie pocket battleships) and battleships are being repaired in Indian ports.

The Japanese, however, are about to burst through the frontier. They've finally taken Nationalist China and are tearing through Burma. Within a month or so, they should reach the border of India. Unfortunately, I've spent most of my IC building my nice fleet (I've got two more battlecruisers and four destroyers under construction now) and my army in India amounts to only about six divisions, which is outnumbered something like 5:1, and I imagine the Japanese have a technological advantage over me. It's going to be a while before more units are completed so I'm going to have to bring my forces back from Africa. But, the Med. is crawling with Italian warships, so I'll have to send my fleet to escort the transports back to India. What's worse, is that I only have 4 transports, which means I'll have to make three trips.

Also, as if the situation couldn't get any worse, my economy's going to tank soon. I wasn't able to stockpile enough coal prior to the outbreak of war and I've only got two months supply left. I'm considering staging a raid on Rome to capture Italian coal. If I don't get more stockpile, my production and trading will only cover about half my IC.

So, it's been a fun game. High-tech, moderate IC, and an army and navy built from scratch has made this a very interesting game.