A frustrating tale : Why is it impossible to leave an Awakened Empire federation

[Arizal]

I was playing a rather successful game, when I saw that the Awakened empire above me had 600k, and he was growing.

Listening to my "courage", I thought that, since he saw me more or less as an equal since the Unbidden, I could form a federation with him, while I integrate my vassals.

The only problem with this "strategy" is that the button to leave the federation was greyed out and I couldn't leave diplomatically (as well as militarily). Well, turns out it is greyed out as long as there isn't a third member of the federation. Then, you can leave the federation at will.

Except when you are playing with a friend and are both in the federation with no AI. When it's the case, you can both go in federation with the awawened empire, but you cannot both leave. With a friend, I managed to find a loophole about this. The player who left the federation can vassalize the other, making him leave the federation as well.

But, frankly, wouldn't it be better if you could just leave the awekened federation? So, add a "leave federation" button to the awekened empire's diplomatic options, please.

 

[SolarGuy]

Once it's your turn as the federation president, I think you can dissolve the federation? That should work as far as I know.

 

[Azuraal]

FE and AE shouldn't be able to be part of a federation, it's a bug.

 

[Diezy]

At first I thought you offered to be their vassal, as that was the only way I view Awakened Empire "Federations". :O
I don't recall there being such an option, for other diplomacy, only some Trade Deals, that they totally won't accept.

I think it's a very weird bug, and you were never meant to make a Federation with them in the first place!

 

[Emraldis]

At first I thought you offered to be their vassal, as that was the only way I view Awakened Empire "Federations". :O
I don't recall there being such an option, for other diplomacy, only some Trade Deals, that they totally won't accept.

I think it's a very weird bug, and you were never meant to make a Federation with them in the first place!

No, you totally can, it's part of what happens when a fallen empire awakens due to a crisis. They look to make alliances with others in the galaxy, to help stop the crisis.

 

[Rogers773]

A bit off topic but speaking of AEs, if the War in Heaven event happens does that stop other end game events? It seems this one is the most common event for me, and more often than not it is super lame--tho I did have one that put my rather large empire on it's heels (the war was a complete disaster for me, my home world occupied, lost several planets, maybe 50 years of warfare before a stalemate finally occurred and then the cycle would repeat after everyone rebuilt their fleets). Seems the only way I get other events is to start a game w/ no FEs (which kinda sucks, I think the FEs are interesting).