A Forumite's Preview of Victoria 2

[Colon]

Bit of a shame we've had to go down the path of mockery, because I haven't seen a good reason why you wouldn't go down the path of accuracy re South Carolina (it's more understable re the dwarf states). I normally favour playability but I don't see it would be enhanced in this case. It's silly to yammer on about it, but it's also silly to insist on this design choice if it doesn't make it a better game.

Saying players can mod it themselves is an awful cop out. The question is whether it's a bad design choice and modability isn't an excuse for a bad design choice. I don't buy games so I can then spend hours correcting mistakes (or at least what I feel them to be).

 

[Prinz Wilhelm]

Bit of a shame we've had to go down the path of mockery, because I haven't seen a good reason why you wouldn't go down the path of accuracy re South Carolina (it's more understable re the dwarf states). I normally favour playability but I don't see it would be enhanced in this case. It's silly to yammer on about it, but it's also silly to insist on this design choice if it doesn't make it a better game.

Saying players can mod it themselves is an awful cop out. The question is whether it's a bad design choice and modability isn't an excuse for a bad design choice. I don't buy games so I can then spend hours correcting mistakes (or at least what I feel them to be).

South Carolina is only 2 provinces, double that of Connecticut, Vermont, etc. Not really that much to warrant a state either.

 

[KAding]

I'm confused. Pretty much the only thing that happens in a 'state' game-wise is that factories are placed there, no? Or is there more to a state than that? You can still have two countries each owning part of the state? It's not like they made one big province out of Georgia and SC.

 

[Colon]

No, it's just a matter of flavour.

 

[Andrelvis]

I'm confused. Pretty much the only thing that happens in a 'state' game-wise is that factories are placed there, no? Or is there more to a state than that? You can still have two countries each owning part of the state? It's not like they made one big province out of Georgia and SC.

It's also important for events; for example, in V1, the command for raising POPs' had effect per state.

 

[unmerged(75409)]

King mentioned that with the new "war goal" system you will have an option to claim states (rather than provinces). This would be to stop the "splattering" when countries conclude peace treaties where they get provinces that don't even border each other.

 

[RELee]

Whatever they do with the map, I'm assuming that the final will be set for game play purposes, taking into consideration peace treaties, immigration, population density, etc, etc.

So, I'm going to relax and see what we wind up with.

Ommm, mani, padme, hummmm ...

 

[Andrelvis]

King mentioned that with the new "war goal" system you will have an option to claim states (rather than provinces). This would be to stop the "splattering" when countries conclude peace treaties where they get provinces that don't even border each other.

That might result in we getting states that don't border each other though. It could simply give us bigger chunks of spread territory, while not solving the problem.

 

[PANGI]

oh...still the same problem with the map -> they have correctly prepare provinces but they choose the wrong ones for set borders...or ottomans and montenegro already made a war and treaty in 1836?

 

[OHgamer]

oh...still the same problem with the map -> they have correctly prepare provinces but they choose the wrong ones for set borders...or ottomans and montenegro already made a war and treaty in 1836?

Considering that in V1 the entire area represented by Montenegro was one province (2 if you want to count Kotor) in V1 and is now represented by 5 provinces, it might not be such a surprise that the political ownership of some of the new provinces might be off in these early alpha screenshots, unless there is a Montenegrin history specialist among the actual developers.

 

[PANGI]

Considering that in V1 the entire area represented by Montenegro was one province (2 if you want to count Kotor) in V1 and is now represented by 5 provinces, it might not be such a surprise that the political ownership of some of the new provinces might be off in these early alpha screenshots, unless there is a Montenegrin history specialist among the actual developers.

Despite of that this problem was typical for every Paradox product, i'm giving my confidence into developers team.

 

[perhat]

Can you answer the questions please:
1.Will there be a Bosniak state?
2.Will there be Croats and Serbs in Bosnia n' Herzegovina?
3.How are you gonna represent the Italian minority in Istria and Dalmatia?
4.How will you represent the Croatian national revival(before the revival it was shameful to speak Croatian)

Thanks

 

[Evans]

Excellent

 

[Nikolai]

You evil man... I thought we got a new preview...

 

[JoeGiavani]

thread bumping like this is against the rules.

 

[OHgamer]

Thread closed as this thread is about a six-month old preview of the game, much has likely changed since that time.