"A Formal Request"

[Xnaop]

"A Formal Request" is just plain baloney. I, the Lord Protector of the great Qara Koyunlu, stretching from the Adriatic to the Indus and beyond, and Caliph of all Shiitedom, do not care even one whit what provinces some pissant upstart Christian from some filthy little backwater European sewer, whose ass I just kicked not once, not twice, but three times in the past two decades, including once just a few months ago, thinks are part of his pathetic little self-styled "empire". Why on earth should my nation take a stability hit?

 

[Nunn45]

There are some rather silly events in this game, thats all i got to say.

 

[unmerged(487181)]

"A Formal Request" is just plain baloney. I, the Lord Protector of the great Qara Koyunlu, stretching from the Adriatic to the Indus and beyond, and Caliph of all Shiitedom, do not care even one whit what provinces some pissant upstart Christian from some filthy little backwater European sewer, whose ass I just kicked not once, not twice, but three times in the past two decades, including once just a few months ago, thinks are part of his pathetic little self-styled "empire". Why on earth should my nation take a stability hit?

It shouldn't. Just use the console command to give yourself stability and prestige back unless you know how to mod the event out altogether.

 

[ZomgK3tchup]

This is fixed for 5.2, IIRC. You don't get the formal request event if you're not Christian.

 

[ywhtptgtfo]

This is fixed for 5.2, IIRC. You don't get the formal request event if you're not Christian.

I recommend modding out Formal Request entirely, as it messes up the A.I. as well. I tried one game with it left alone and I saw France spitting out and reannexing Liege for the nth time.

 

[ZechsMerquise73]

Yeah, its a miserable and annoying event. I conquered all Europe as the Golden Horde and had to give it back because the Emporer said so.

 

[WGPower]

A) provincial decision to leave the empire
B ) disband the HRE.

I agree it's a foolish event. How would my hero Frederick have held onto Silesia with such a silly event??

 

[ywhtptgtfo]

A) provincial decision to leave the empire
B ) disband the HRE.

I agree it's a foolish event. How would my hero Frederick have held onto Silesia with such a silly event??

He ate the unlawful territory modifier.

 

[WGPower]

He ate the unlawful territory modifier.

He must've gained cores from mission there was no stab hit just 100% infamy cost

 

[unmerged(80402)]

IMO just any land taken from emperor in a war, while being part of hre, should get some modifire that prevent getting unlawfull teritory - because the HRE himself granted you this land in a peace deal.

 

[unmerged(487181)]

Honestly, the HRE mechanics should just be eliminated outright. They're totally ahistorical. Only things I can think of right away that would make sense to keep would be the Emperor being called into a war to defend Empire states and the ability to inherit with cores on Imperial territory. But there's no reason why being in the HRE would make you a super-duper magical tech god (-10% technology cost) or why being elected Emperor would magically make your land be able to support several times their normal troop count (Emperor force limit bonus) or allow you to conscript double or more men to serve in your army (Emperor manpower bonus)... and the fact that apparently a third of a province's fighting men disappear when the Emperor demands it back, and that your entire country is destabilized (Unlawful Imperial Territory event), is just ludicrous.

 

[Mixxer5]

"A Formal Request" is just plain baloney. I, the Lord Protector of the great Qara Koyunlu, stretching from the Adriatic to the Indus and beyond, and Caliph of all Shiitedom, do not care even one whit what provinces some pissant upstart Christian from some filthy little backwater European sewer, whose ass I just kicked not once, not twice, but three times in the past two decades, including once just a few months ago, thinks are part of his pathetic little self-styled "empire". Why on earth should my nation take a stability hit?

Why would anyone able to wage war against HRE care about what "emperor" says? It should be hard to conquer HRE, not to keep their provinces.

 

[Taylor]

Fixed (mostly) in 5.2. Still I agree it's a bit crazy. Cheapest solution is just to disband the HRE... it's not very hard to do, esp if you're an enormous empire.

 

[unmerged(375644)]

Adding: for the event to fire you need to be at peace. Note that also wars with horde/steppe nomad nations don't count officially as wars.