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What followed was no ordinary war. It was a concerted and sustained effort by Germany and Russia to destroy not only the Polish state, but the Polish nation itself. And although full-blown military operations would end in 1945, it would not be over for Poland until September 1989, almost exactly fifty years after it began.
Poland: A History by Adam Zamoyski

I know it’s just a game, and I’ll keep that in mind if Germany steamrolls my army and I’m tempted to reload, but I would like to dedicate this AAR to Poland, the country that, in my humble opinion, was the true loser of the Second World War.

INTRO: On 22 March 1939 Germany delivered an ultimatum to Poland demanding Danzig, which was refused. Great Britain offered Poland an unconditional guarantee of its current territory on 31 March. At the behest of its new allies, Britain and France, Poland delayed mobilisation in an effort to reach a peaceful solution to the crisis, leaving it totally unprepared for what was to come. This AAR is going to take the alternate route that Poland had mobilized. How might the Second World War have gone if when the German blitz arrived at Poland’s doorstep, the Poles had been waiting for them?

1936 start TFH 4.02

House Rules: No cheating, no reloading, and no abusing game mechanics as I see fit. AI willing, everything will go historically as possible until the first shots are fired. Afterwards I’ll try to keep things within what I deem the realm of possibility.



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Józef Piłsudski and Edward Rydz-Śmigły

Edward Rydz-Śmigły inherited the paternity of Poland on 12 May 1935, the day of Józef Piłsudski’s death. The Poland of 1935 was not yet 20 years old. On its Eastern border lay the Soviet Union led by Stalin, who had his eye on the Russian Empire’s old industrial center and was still smarting after having failed to export communism through Poland in 1920. In the West lay a Germany in turmoil led by the ambitious Adolf Hitler at the head of a dangerous fascist party.

The Polish state itself was grinding gears in the Sejm with various German, Ukrainian, and Jewish minorities blocking legislature. Economically there was no clear solution to be found for the polar opposite needs of peasant farmers and factory workers. In early January 1936 the Sejm managed to vote with a consensus and passed a set of economic regulations in favor of a laissez faire policy hoping the problems would solve themselves.

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Rydz-Śmigły acted immediately marching on Warsaw with the entirety of the Polish army. He called the Sejm to convene and spoke plainly. These were his points:

*Economic policy must serve the state.
*The state’s sovereignty is under a dire threat.
*In 1920 The Allied powers proved they would do nothing for Polish sovereignty, going so far as to call them warmongers.
*From here on out, we are on our own.

Some would say it was Rydz-Śmigły’s silver tongue, and others that it was the mass of uniformed soldiers roaming the streets, but from that day onward the Sejm would pass any reform in favor of a stronger military industry.

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With internal affairs sorted, Rydz-Śmigły went to work reforming the military. The glorious cavalry divisions that were responsible for Piłsudski’ miracle victory over the Soviets in 1920 had to be disbanded in order to support more modern infantry divisions. Despite an obvious lack of manpower Rydz-Śmigły commissioned 22 new infantry divisions and further strained the Polish industry by ordering the construction of fortifications along the Vistula.

Polish infantry divisions were reorganized for a theoretical war. Piłsudski’s war in 1920 was characterized by unit mobility and flanking maneuvers primarily carried out by cavalry. Because of this Rydz-Śmigły knew the future of warfare was in unit mobility, but he envisioned it on a smaller scale. On the battlefield, rather than the strategic map. He invested in newer small arms to give Polish squads the firepower of a platoon. Smaller dispersed units would maneuver more fluidly and be less susceptible to concentrated artillery. Newer radios would allow for better coordination. Light artillery would support front line units to cut off avenues of attack and funnel the enemy into infantry cross-fire.

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The energy with which Rydz-Śmigły went about military reforms was infectious among the leadership, but foreign affairs were frankly a hopeless matter. Lithuania was wary of Poland’s intentions thanks to Piłsudski’s Ukrainian campaign led by Rydz-Śmigły in 1920. Romania was partial towards Poland, being under the same threat from the Soviet Union, but an alliance was unlikely as neither had anything to offer the other.

In 1934 Hitler and Piłsudski had signed a 10 year non-aggression pact, but Germany’s Anschluss of Austria in March 1938 made Rydz-Śmigły worried about the fidelity of this agreement. Germany wanted Danzig, and many German citizens of Danzig wanted to be a part of Germany. To make matters worse only France had guaranteed Germany’s eastern border with Poland, so while Great Britain showed concern in the treaty of Munich, Rydz-Śmigły was uncertain if the British would leave Poland to its fate as it had left the Czechs to theirs.

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As a show of force, Rydz-Śmigły ordered the occupation of Cesky Testen while Germany marched into the Sudetenland.

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What followed were six months of uneasy waiting until Hitler dropped his pretenses, annexed the rest of Czechoslovakia and issued a demand for Danzig. Great Britain countered Hitler with an alliance offer, which Rydz-Śmigły accepted.

Meanwhile Italy, Japan, and Hungary joined the Axis. 16 June 1939 Poland mobilized and Rydz-Śmigły prepared for war with Germany. Knowing he couldn't count on his allies, but would be unable to survive without them, he devised a plan which depended on holding Warsaw, the port of Danzig, and capturing Prussia. Much of Poland would be occupied, but Polish sovereignty must be defended at all costs.

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Rydz-Śmigły was unsurprised to learn that Stalin had signed a nonaggression treaty with Hitler, sanctioning his expansion. On September 1, 1939 Germany declared war.

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This is my first AAR. Inspiration came from a recent phase of Polish history reading as well as my own Polish heritage. Gameplay ideas came from a number of repeat attempts at Poland as well as mnplastic's AAR http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?470079-Nie-poddamy-sie!-%28Poland-1936-1.3v-normal-lv.%29 and an old user Kanitatlan's ideas from this post http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?645669-For-a-few-z%26%23322%3Botys-more&highlight= (Inspiration for the title as well).
 

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Interesting AAR. Following along.
Looking at the last screenshot though, did you set up a proper OOB? I hope you did, you are going to need every advantage you can get in the upcoming war.
I see a fortified line behind the Vistula, that should slow the Germans down a bit. But with 0 manpower, you can't replace any casualties, which leads me to fear the enemy will bleed you white rather quickly. Add to that only 99% officer ratio, well, I wish you good luck!
 

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I have to agree with sebas on this one. Not only manpower is at 0, but have you mobilized your forces yet? If not, than you definitely have a disadvantage when fighting the Germans. It may help disbanding a few divisions to create manpower and hope for the best that your ranks are filled by the time the Germans reach your set up frontline. All in all, this is going to be very interesting so count me in!

Good luck!
 

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You've taken on an ambitious task. With unexperienced units and leaders, and 0 manpower, Poland is in deep trouble against Germany. I hope the Vistula line holds. Mind sharing your OOB with us?
 

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Blitzkrieg

Phase One: Blitzkrieg

Within hours of Hitler’s DoW German tanks are rolling into Danzig where they are met with roadblocks made of old railway cars that had been placed there weeks ago. Improvised fire bombs are dropped by partisans from the rooftops onto the sitting panzers, while light machine guns and small arms mop up the Wehrmacht in the streets. The first battle for Danzig was over before it started and German generals call off the direct assault, opting instead to surround the city, cut its port off from the rest of Poland and besiege any Poles left inside.

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Operation Thorn:
Once the war started Rydz-Śmigły knew that the Germans would have to be driven out of Prussia so that Polish forces could face a German offensive with their backs secured. This task he delegated to General Kutrzeba so that he could focus on the defensive front himself, but Kutrzeba quarreled with Rydz-Śmigły during a meeting of the general staff in the early weeks of August.

“Field Marshal,” Kutrzeba had implored Rydz-Śmigły, “You have given me one month to destroy the German army in Prussia, but you have disbanded my cavalry divisions, and I have no armour or mobile units to speak of. It would take that long just to march the whole army to the sea. What if the Germans stop us at Konigsberg? You ask too much.”

“I can’t have the Germans marching into Warsaw while we are tied up in Prussia,” Rydz-Śmigły explained.

“Then delay them! You have left our border entirely undefended.”

To this Rydz-Śmigły said nothing. He knew most of the general staff felt the same way about his decision to keep his army behind the Vistula.

“It can’t be done. I need more time!” General Kutrzeba cried.

“It must be done,” Rydz-Śmigły said. “If you cannot do it, I will find someone who can.”

Brigadier Anders would be that man. Promoted to Field Marshal, the fate of the war hung on Anders’ 22 infantry divisions facing the Wehrmacht in Prussia.

His attack began with the first news of Germans crossing the border in the West. He did not wait for orders from Rydz-Śmigły. The feeling of desperation and speed trickled down the chain of command and Polish soldiers stormed breathlessly over German fortifications along the Vistula river and the Lithuanian border.

Anders’ Army advanced in two prongs with equally important objectives. The German defenses east of the Vistula river had to be captured and used to hold the line and keep Danzig from being cut off. In the West, Polish forces rushed to the port of Memel, which had been ceded to to Germany from the Lithuanians. This maneuver was doubly important. First, to leave Konigsberg as the Germans only port of supply, and second to cut off the possibility that German forces might retreat into Lithuania. The Soviets had not invaded with the Germans, and Rydz-Śmigły did not want to give them any reason to by putting Polish forces on Lithuanian soil.

By 8 September things were looking bleak. Already German panzer divisions were waiting outside of Warsaw. The Polish offensive was moving slowly while the German Blitz had already severed Danzig from the mainland. But there was a glimmer of hope. It appeared that the German forces in Prussia were outnumbered. If the province of Elbing could be captured before the German army reinforced Prussia, all would not be lost.

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14 September Rydz-Śmigły received word that Hungarian divisions were mobilising along the Polish border. The German Blitz had stopped along the Vistula river, even in the south where there had not been enough time to fortify. It seemed the Germans were waiting for success in Prussia where they could attack the Polish Army’s unfortified northern flank rather than risk taking heavy losses crossing the Vistula.

By 18 September Anders’ had reached both primary objectives and fortified the northern defenses along the Vistula. Except for the port of Konigsberg, German forces were cut off from reinforcement. The German command seemed to hesitate at this decisive moment. They attacked hopelessly across the Vistula into their own fortifications, trying to reconnect with Prussia through Elbing. A third of the Polish army was tied down in Prussia, fighting viciously to force the Wehrmacht there to surrender. Anders’ casualties mounted over 30%, and the Luftwaffe was succeeding dangerously in destroying communication lines. Polish divisions in Prussia were operating on their own, unable to communicate with Anders HQ near Brzesc Litewski. But division commanders knew the importance of their mission and continued in pursuit of the withdrawing divisions despite the havoc wrought by a ferocious German rearguard supported by Luftwaffe close air support. If the Germans attacked across the Vistula in the south, there would be no stopping them.

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Instead they waited, and on 11 October Anders' army captured Konigsberg and a week later the remaining German units surrendered.

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By 19 October the Blitzkrieg had grinded to a halt. German High Command had wasted weeks shuffling units along the front in a confused effort to connect with their Prussian forces and now were faced with an intact Polish army sitting behind strong defenses. The Polish army, undermanned to begin with, had suffered something close to 15% casualties overall during the first month of the war. Polish intelligence reported German losses as catastrophic thanks to the 10 captured Prussian divisions. Due to this information some of the Polish staff urged a drive towards Berlin, but Rydz-Śmigły was skeptical of the predicted German losses.

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Where Polish forces could gain a local numerical superiority, Rydz-Śmigły was sure of victory, with Prussia as an example. But the Polish army was made purely of light infantry. Even well equipped as they were, any breakthrough of the German line would be quickly closed by German reinforcements. Knowing it was out of the question, Rydz-Śmigły asked Anders his thoughts on a Polish offensive. Anders only shook his head. Some of his divisions were at half strength.

By November the storm had passed and everywhere along the front it was quiet. No longer trying to support the besieged Wehrmacht in Prussia, the Luftwaffe decided it had better go check the activities of French and British air power instead. Perhaps they would be back to bomb Poland once the German High Command came unstuck, but for the time being it appeared that some inflexible being (*caugh* Hitler *caugh*) could not cope with the failed offensive and was unable to adapt.

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Polish units dug in. The people took what few steps that had not already been taken towards converting Polish industry into a war machine. Rydz-Śmigły inspected the front line, presenting a man of extreme conviction with complete confidence in his soldiers. It was an act. Rydz-Śmigły said nothing of his deepest concerns. Could the rumors of Soviet forces massing on his eastern border be true? Would the promises of the French and British amount to anything? It was their move. For now, Poland could only hold on.
 
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Question: How does the strategic warfare screen work? I thought it would show casualties, but it doesn't really make sense to me. I need to turn back on popups so I can get major battle casualty reports to post here. I turned those off long ago...

Looking at the last screenshot though, did you set up a proper OOB?

lol No I did not. I loaded the game to carry on about where this last update ended and realized I never put the divisions under their respective theatres. I wasn't going to add any Army/Corps because I didn't think I had enough leadership yet. Anyway, I thought I had at least put them under the right Theatre HQ, but it must have just been a brain fart from having tried this scenario many times before.

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Here is a glimpse of the current OOB, unchanged since Operation Thorn. Essentially Rydz-Śmigły is the defensive Theatre Commander while Anders is the offensive Prussia Theatre commander. Anders had 22 divisions consisting of 4XINF while Rydz-Śmigły had 39 of 3XINF.

I think I'm going to move all of the divisions under Warszawa HQ as I have no plans for an offensive anytime soon. I should have enough leadership now to do a proper OOB. Anyone have suggestions on how to show you?

@everyone Thanks for the interest. I hope you enjoy my writing. I'm excited to see how this goes, and frankly quite scared as well. I've never been successful with an attempt like this and I'm nearing uncharted territory.
 
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I believe that, even if you don't have leaders for the HQ chain, your units still get a bonus for being attached to it. So I would highly recommend setting it up anyways. Even is the bonus is minor because there is no leader, Poland needs every edge she can get. Every HQ in the chain gives something special, so set it up all the way (division-corps-army-army group-theatre). Some good defensive leaders on the most important spots, etc.

You can use the same OOB screen you used in this last update to show the OOB once fully set up with HQ. Or a screenshot of Poland where you selected the theatre HQ so we see the lines of communication, that gives some idea as well.

The strategic warfare screen, as far as I know, has been bugged since forever and never been fixed. Don't look at it too much.

Good job so far, you cleared East Prussia, the biggest problem for Poland, and entrenched firmly behind rivers. Now let's hope the Luftwaffe doesn't bomb you to dust.
 

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The strategic warfare isn't just bugged.
It's broken. :p

Throw your units in Prussia at the front lines, or keep them behind as a reserve. Wherever the Germans attack, bring them in as reinforcements :)

(I believe it's called defence-in-depth. Quite useful as the SU.)

Btw, change the slider on your Warszawa HQ to 'defensive'. I'm not entirely sure how much it actually affects combat, but I'm pretty sure it helps somewhat (battles will last longer and you have more chance of winning them, to memory). As sebas said, every little bit counts.
 

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Good to see that you were able to hold Vistula. Though without even a single AT gun, you'll suffer high losses against tanks.

So, what's next? There's no chance that Allies make a move, while comrade Stalin is certain to do so in a little over a year.

Also, I'm curious - what research did you do?

I believe that, even if you don't have leaders for the HQ chain, your units still get a bonus for being attached to it.
I don't think so, given that bonuses depend on leader skill. But Poland has enough generals with skill 2-3 and useful perks to set up a meaningful chain of command.
 

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Will the USSR attack? It did in HPP. Without it, Poland is a little too easy. I hope your officers do not end up in a pit in Katyn, but that seems likely with so few troops on the eastern border.
 

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I don't think AI soviet will dow in TFH. but i would'nt call it easy either.

It is too easy. Starting as a nation which got crushed from both sides should be rather like doing a Byzantium or Albanian survival in EU4. Only a real master of logistics and strategy should ever be able to defeat the onslaught as Poland. That empty eastern border is just asking for Stalin to casually saunter in and occupy Wilno and Lwow. This is almost as bad as EU4, where Spain could ship its whole 40,000 army to Mexico without worrying that France would spot the weakness and attack.
 

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It is too easy. Starting as a nation which got crushed from both sides should be rather like doing a Byzantium or Albanian survival in EU4. Only a real master of logistics and strategy should ever be able to defeat the onslaught as Poland. That empty eastern border is just asking for Stalin to casually saunter in and occupy Wilno and Lwow. This is almost as bad as EU4, where Spain could ship its whole 40,000 army to Mexico without worrying that France would spot the weakness and attack.

Calm your tits for a second. Poland in TFH (and HOI3 in general) is massively nerfed to allow AI Germany a quick victory. Evene a human player will struggle immensely when it comes to surviving without conquering all of eastern Europe before the war starts. OPs current strategy of having an infantry-only army however is likely to fail, seeing that hes already at 0 manpower. A inf/inf/at/art setup combined with either a small airforce (which you can license build from the UK once the war starts, nothing else to do with your IC anyways) or a shitton of AA guns are a must to preserve manpower.
 

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Calm your tits for a second. Poland in TFH (and HOI3 in general) is massively nerfed to allow AI Germany a quick victory. Evene a human player will struggle immensely when it comes to surviving without conquering all of eastern Europe before the war starts. OPs current strategy of having an infantry-only army however is likely to fail, seeing that hes already at 0 manpower. A inf/inf/at/art setup combined with either a small airforce (which you can license build from the UK once the war starts, nothing else to do with your IC anyways) or a shitton of AA guns are a must to preserve manpower.



Even in great mods like HPP and BlackICE, Poland is indeed massively nerfed, both in tech, manpower, and units. I tend to just go in and manually change everything to up their tech and army to what it actually was in 1936, especially adding AT units and hard attack to their cavalry. It find it makes for a much better game as Germany too, with one actually having to do what the Germans did- overwhelm through firepower and numbers- than simply walk through with minimal casualties.
 

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Calm your tits for a second. Poland in TFH (and HOI3 in general) is massively nerfed to allow AI Germany a quick victory. Evene a human player will struggle immensely when it comes to surviving without conquering all of eastern Europe before the war starts. OPs current strategy of having an infantry-only army however is likely to fail, seeing that hes already at 0 manpower. A inf/inf/at/art setup combined with either a small airforce (which you can license build from the UK once the war starts, nothing else to do with your IC anyways) or a shitton of AA guns are a must to preserve manpower.

Fair enough. Poland is gimped, and should not be. How about it getting its historical strength, in exchange for having the Soviet attack? I have whinged at great length myself about France being nerfed into the ground, and having to mod the game to fix it. I usually buffed Poland, too.
 

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I don't think so, given that bonuses depend on leader skill. But Poland has enough generals with skill 2-3 and useful perks to set up a meaningful chain of command.

Exactly, I have enough leaders, but when you create HQ's it drains you leadership, which if falling below a certain level causes lower organization or something. If it is 140% you get a bonus to your org. Actually, this I'm not sure I understand correctly, but it's something along those lines.


Also, I'm curious - what research did you do?

Apart from what can be seen in the first post, not much else. It's just future teching the infantry, while keeping infantry doctrines up to date. I did sea lane defense so I could build convoy escorts, and am perpetually building convoys and escorts to replace what the Germans are sinking, so far I think I'm building them faster than I'm losing them, for the time being at least. Anyway, the next update I'll try to post a more inclusive shot of my research.


As far as the Soviets go with TFH, in my experience the longer you survive as Poland, whether you conquer other countries or not, they will eventually attack. IRL the Soviets invaded two weeks after the Germans, and supposedly only because they waited to see how the Allies would respond (they did nothing) and how successful Germany would be (very). And as I mentioned in my intro, Britain/France urged Poland to delay mobilization in order to find a peaceful resolution, meaning that most of the Polish army was a third under strength. Although, I suppose my AAR isn't unrealistic in that regard as I've built too many divisions to make them all full strength, but I figured it was better to have every point of MP on the battlefield rather than in the reserve pool.
 

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The Paper War

Leaflets. The British were bombing German cities with leaflets.

Rydz-Śmigły kept a certain leaflet in his breast pocket. It detailed the Polish casualty figures. Perhaps it was time to send King George a message. The British Head of State, Neville Chamberlain, read Rydz-Śmigły’s letter in front of a crackling fire on Christmas Day, 1939. All it said: “Care to join us?”

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Earlier that month, the Romanians had presented Rydz-Śmigły with military access rights in a show of solidarity. Anders and Rydz-Śmigły quickly discussed the possibility of a sneak attack with Anders army through Romania and across Hungary’s undefended border. The Hungarian fascist party had aligned itself with Hitler and was quickly assuming control of the state. Although Hungary had not joined the war outright, it was supplying Germany with resources and military equipment. Ultimately Rydz-Śmigły struck down the potential offensive. Poland simply did not have enough men for another front.

What concerned Rydz-Śmigły was the Red Army. In 1920 Rydz-Śmigły had commanded the Polish Third Army in defense against the Red Army’s southern pincer which acted under the directive of Commissar Stalin. The very name Stalin invoked memories of barefoot Russian hordes and bloody Cossack sabers. The soldiers of Rydz-Śmigły’s army deserted in droves in the first weeks of that invasion, such was their terror.

A miracle had saved Poland then. That, and Stalin’s rivalry with Tukhachevsky, who commanded the Red Army’s northern pincer. Rydz-Śmigły knew that Stalin would be back to rectify his embarrassing defeat and try once more to export communism to the West through Poland. He ordered a series of fortifications to be built up from the marshlands of Wlodawa to the border of Lithuania.

On New Years Day 1940 Chamberlain brought the Dutch into the war. Rydz-Śmigły would have appreciated a third front for the Germans, had the British augmented the Netherlands with some expeditionary forces of their own. But they did not.

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The conduct of Poland’s Allies disgusted Rydz-Śmigły. It was no different from 1920, when Britain and France had sent advisors, not divisions, to Warsaw and demanded that Pilsudski give up command to one of them. Perhaps the only thing more perplexing was Hitler’s response to the unexpected Dutch DoW. It took the German’s three months to occupy the Netherlands.

During those three months the British decided to show up with a single division of Royal Marines. But instead of assisting the Dutch in keeping a third front against the Germans, they landed in Danzig. Rydz-Śmigły was not there to greet them as they offloaded in port. Instead he was inspecting the new fortifications which faced east along his anticipated Soviet front. They were nearing completion, but Rydz-Śmigły decided to wait a few more weeks while the Soviets were tied down in Finland to strengthen them.

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On March 20 1940, a week before the Dutch capitulated, Rydz-Śmigły ordered a general retreat to the Brzesc Litewski line, abandoning almost the entirety of Poland to German occupation. The eastern line of defense pivoted off the western facing line on the marshes of Wlodawa, where Rydz-Śmigły sent the Royal Marines knowing their hot tea would keep them cozy.

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I'm afraid you just gave up a lot of resources and IC to the Germans for no reason. It's only March 1940, Stalin won't attack so soon I think.
On the other hand, better safe than sorry, that is true. Let's hope the Allies can put up a fight while Poland pins down as many German divisions as possible.