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Servius Magnus

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im the byzantine empire and i have a few provinces in persia, russia and hungary that i want to get rid of but i think it would take to long and cost to much rep if i took them from my vassals and gave them to one i have a claim on the attack him. also is there any way i can get my vassals to make peace with an enemy when i make peace with them?
 
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also is there any way i can get my vassals to make peace with an enemy when i make peace with them?

When you make peace, all of your vassals who are currently at war with that empire, should also become at peace with them. If it's not working that way, posting example or details would be helpful.

The only thing close to what your asking is, if you are a vassal of someone, go to war to grab another county, your liege (possibly also your ally or liege's ally) also goes to war with that county. You force-vassalize that county, but it's still at war with your liege. The only way out I've found, is to give that county a few gold (4 or 5) at the start of each month (if it has no gold), and hope it settles with your liege for that gold during the month.

im the byzantine empire and i have a few provinces in persia, russia and hungary that i want to get rid of but i think it would take to long and cost to much rep if i took them from my vassals and gave them to one i have a claim on the attack him.

The further away from your Capital, or the Vassals owning Counties in Kingdom's and Duchy's natural area of influence that you don't have the title to, will tend to revolt/declare independence eventually. The only way i know of, to re-distribute Counties and titles, is during a revolt (or by revoking titles, with all the bad things that go along with it).
 

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There is an other way to do it, but a bit tedious if you have a good king (lots of bonus loyalty to vassal)

1. mobilize his regiment (or ask him officially)
2. disband
repeat


This way you can keep him permanently on zero loyalty, and sooner then later, he will revolt or declrare independence.
(at least in CK 1.05, what I use)
 

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There is an other way to do it, but a bit tedious if you have a good king (lots of bonus loyalty to vassal)

1. mobilize his regiment (or ask him officially)
2. disband
repeat


This way you can keep him permanently on zero loyalty, and sooner then later, he will revolt or declrare independence.
(at least in CK 1.05, what I use)
You can't directly mobilize a vassal's army whose loyalty is < 80%. And if you ask directly he will not suffer a loyalty hit.

I found that the best way to get rid of distant vassals is to just ignore them. Eventually they revolt or just break free without war. Sometimes it may take some generations though, sometimes it happens within weeks. Of course you can always screw the local vassal over by mobilizing his troops and then leaving them to rot at sea... :D Either the heathens will eventually pick him off, or he will get events that tell you his troops have been mobilized for too long.

You can also try to revoke his title and give it to a courtier with a foreign ethnicity and maybe also a foreign religion. Those people are more likely to break free. (not Greek, Bulgarian, Armenian or Georgian - those get loyalty bonuses when part of the BYZ empire.)
 

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You can't directly mobilize a vassal's army whose loyalty is < 80%. And if you ask directly he will not suffer a loyalty hit.


Under 80 loyalty, you ask him to mobilize his regiment.
- if he accepts, disband, ask again
- if he doesn't, he gets a loyalty hit

Tedious, yes, but works.
 

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Does that really work? I rarely ever have vassals refusing my requests.


Well, in CK 1.05 (no DV) it works for sure.

If their loyalty is below 80, they refure often for me...
 

Servius Magnus

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thanks for all the responses guys. but i found the problem, my game wasnt patched to 1.05 so i downloaded the patch and everythings all right