A few questions

[unmerged(5150)]

Hello all you EU veterans, I wonder if you could answer a few questions bugging me.
First, I've heard references to player's BB levels. Is there anyway to figure this out in game? I've also heard a reference to being able to figure out whose winning a war by looking at the diplomatic screen. How is that done?
I'm now playing a full game as France, and have been doing pretty well (difficulty medium). I've conquered or diplomatically anexted all of northern Italy, Hellaravia, those French procinces that Spain has for some reason, Hyperdad, the Mogul Empire, half of Japan, andhave recently vassilized the Palintenate and Bavaria, with the aim of eventually annexing them too. I've also colonized the Eastern Seaboard from Delaware to Massachusets, some big swaths of the west, South Africa, Southeast Asia and Sumatra, what is now eastern Russia, and some other, smaller stuff. My problem is that I've been having a lot of revolts lately. It all started during my war with the Mugal Empire. It took a while, so when my citizens started getting restless, I assumed it was just war discontent. However, its now 1675, 30 years since the Second Indian War (as I call it) and they are still revolting all over the place. Is there some intrinsic limit to the size of an empire before people start getting unhappy? Is this a fact of life for anybody going into this time of history? Please help!

 

[unmerged(4143)]

You can't check your badboy level while playing. You have to open the saved game file and search for badboy, France should be the second country that shows up.

As for the way a war is going, you can see that when you offer peace. Stars in your favor, crosses in theirs (I'm sure you know that as you have done much conquering )

The revolts could be any number of factors. Could be nationalism, problems with religious tolerance, etc. You can check what is causing the revolt risk by viewing a province then holding the mouse over the revolt risk number. If its nationalism, it will go away eventually (10 years for each percent, ie 30 years overall).

 

[unmerged(1095)]

I suugest that you visit the FAQ Forum and browse thro some of the Stickys there.
There is an awful lot of information........

 

[unmerged(4795)]

Another reason for wide spread revolts is war fatigue.
After few years of constant war the people will get restless and the longer the war lasts - the higher the risk of your provinces revolting.
Possible solution: try to wage short wars, make peace, and start all over again. otherwise you will be running all over your kingdom fighting those annoying rebel armies.
This advice applies only if your BB is low.

Good luck.

 

[Orm]

Originally posted by lancealot
Another reason for wide spread revolts is war fatigue.
After few years of constant war the people will get restless and the longer the war lasts - the higher the risk of your provinces revolting.
Possible solution: try to wage short wars, make peace, and start all over again. otherwise you will be running all over your kingdom fighting those annoying rebel armies.
This advice applies only if your BB is low.

Good luck.

After a few years??? I've never seen increased revolt risks due to war fatigue, and I've had wars rage on for 20+ years as for example the one time I annexed Spain as France.

 

[PatMaster]

When you annexed Spain you would probably get some revolts due to long BB wars...

 

[unmerged(4795)]

Originally posted by beowulf


After a few years??? I've never seen increased revolt risks due to war fatigue, and I've had wars rage on for 20+ years as for example the one time I annexed Spain as France.

As a matter of fact, yes.

I am playing Austria right now and after another round of BB war I am fighting the turks, P-L and Savoy. I am in a state of war for about 5 years and I noticed when Pommerania rbelled against me that there is a war exhaustion factor of +2... I think it climbs as the war progress even higher (Once i was playing france and it went up till +10)

 

[BiB]

For war fatigue 10 is the highest, 5 is the highest for core provinces.

 

[unmerged(4795)]

Originally posted by BiB
For war fatigue 10 is the highest, 5 is the highest for core provinces.

"Unfortunately", it is a good way to make our lives living hell when you wage a rely long war...
You can't recruit new soldiers in the rebel provinces amd you have to fight them all over , so unless you are in every good position you better end the war to deal with the rebellions else your goverment can fall.

 

[Heretic]

alternative

try not being bad?

(personally I hate the tedium of having to fight off everybody year after year)

also - try not checking your BB, since you get a pretty clear message that things have gone too far (DoW's) also it's spicy trying to guess whether just annexing one more minro is going to give you heartache.

Heretic

 

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I suspect that your empire is too big. That's what is causing your problem.

With an empire as expansive as the one you described I figure you have about 4-5 religions.
Check your religious tolerance sliders. You just have too many religions. This leaves your provinces perpetually hanging on the edge of revolt--there just isn't enough tollerance to go around. The first war or minor unsettlement and revolts pop up all over the world.

Big empires can be unruly, but there are a few solutions:

1) divest yourself of one religion. Just give up all your Muslim, or protestant, or pagan holdings. Not a choice I would pick, but it is an option.

2) appoint governors. they will reduce revolt risk.

3) don't go to war.

4) the most effective but time consuming option, station large armies in your most troubled provinces and keep your people firmly under your boot. It costs a lot of money and time to properly pursue this option (esp. with an empire of your size) but it will work if you've the stomach for it.

Also, you can download an in-game BB (bad boy) viewer. Check out the EU Arsenal on the web for more info.

 

[unmerged(3106)]

Another way to reduce the problem of too many religions is to colonize the provinces with less than 5000 people. Successful colonization will change the province religion to your state religion.

For provinces on the borderline (say 5-10,000 people) let them revolt, let the rebels capture the city and then do a long siege. Frequently the population is reduced below 5000.

Generally, you can tolerate 3 religions in your empire. Use your slider to favor the three most numerious groups and then be prepared for lots of revolts from the others.

 

[Orm]

Originally posted by lancealot


As a matter of fact, yes.

I am playing Austria right now and after another round of BB war I am fighting the turks, P-L and Savoy. I am in a state of war for about 5 years and I noticed when Pommerania rbelled against me that there is a war exhaustion factor of +2... I think it climbs as the war progress even higher (Once i was playing france and it went up till +10)

Yes, I've seen the revolt factor, but what I meant was that I've never had revolts as a result of it.