A Federation of "Equals" - A Danubian Federation Interative AAR

[jeeshadow]

((theAhawk, can you put up something, if one does not exist, detailing what exactly are the responsibilites of the individual cabnit positions?))

 

[Thoctar]

Francesco de Palma and the British Foreign Minister enjoy a nice cup of tea the day of the coup attempt; had he been aware of its existence, de Palma would be against such a coup. After the two finish their cup, they (and their fiancee and wife, respectively) leave London for small party being held by the Earl of Bradford.

((And this is what my taxpayer dollars pay for? ))

Gomułka, upon hearing the news of the President's speech, returns to Vienna and enters the chambers.

I have failed the people of this Federation by becoming the very monster I swore to fight against. For this I am eternally sorry, I can only ask that I am forgiven by God for what I have done and am about to do...

Gomułka grabs the service pistol of a Federal officer, shoves it under his jaw and pulls the trigger. He collapses shortly after.

I am glad that godawful business is finally over with so that we can get along with the business of governing. I don't believe in taking colonial territory from the Spaniards past a few barely-inhabited naval bases, so I think the Philippines should be liberated instead of taken.

 

[BasilII]

Amendment on Presidential Veto and Impeachment: Aye
War and Emergency Measures Act: Aye
Labour Hours Act: Aye
Regulation of Interests Act: Aye
Liberties of States Acts: AYE! (Even if it does conflict with the Cretan constitution somewhat (which I am not positive it does), it is better to end the monarchist question now and amend the constitution rather than continue with this chaotic situation.)
Democratic Republic Act: NAY!
Cretan Employment Act: Aye

[Crete]

- Konstantinos Venizelos, Councillor for Crete

 

[Dadarian]

Amendment on Presidential Veto and Impeachment: Nay
War and Emergencies Act: Nay
Labour Hours Act: Nay
Regulation of Interests Act: Nay
Liberties of States Act: Nay
Democratic Republic Act: Nay

[Romania]

Popa looks at the dead Minister, then at the President

May I have my job back now? I have a war to win.

 

[Revan529]

((And this is what my taxpayer dollars pay for? ))

((Hey; you've gotta woo them ))

 

[jeeshadow]

Amendment on Presidential Veto and Impeachment: Nay
War and Emergencies Act: Nay
Labour Hours Act: Nay
Regulation of Interests Act: Nay
Liberties of States Act: Nay
Democratic Republic Act: Nay

[Romania]

Popa looks at the dead Minister, then at the President

May I have my job back now? I have a war to win.

While you were cleared by trial by combat, I don't know if the President is ready to give you back a position, but I don't speak for the President, so I don't know, but don't hold your breath.
-Minister Aetios Spiros

 

[atomicsoda]

Veto and Impeachment NO
War and Emergencies Act NO
Labour Hours Act NO
Regulations of Interests YES
Liberties of States YES
Democratic Republic Act NO

 

[Gloa]

Veto and Impeachment Amendment: Yes
War and Emergency Measures Act: No
Labour Hours Act: Yes
Regulation of Interests Act: Yes
Liberties of States Act: No
Democratic Republic Act: Yes
(Silesian) Education Act: Yes

[ Silesia ]

(to a crowd of supporters in his hometown)

I know many of you feel that the government has failed us. I understand. I cannot say there is not corruption - there is. There are men who would style themselves our leaders and servants of the people, but serve only their own interests and would show no leadership or accountability. I admit that all this happens - you have seen your voice silenced, your laws ignored, your rights uncared for. I know how that must make you feel. But do not stoop to the level of your opponents. We cannot push our agendas by force or threat, or rely on corruption and tricks to support our causes - these in the end would be an affront to our principles. I can tell you that there is another way.

The Federation has not failed. It has faltered, perhaps, but democracy has not failed us. The people's voice was heard, and it will still be heard. We cannot be silenced. Men across all levels of government stood for our rights and are standing for them, even as it seems foolhardy in cases. We may not vote for what seems popular or likely, but we vote for you - democracy is not dead. The law has not failed us. Some of the things I go to Vienna to vote on are corrupt - some seek to twist the laws to their own advantages, to make it easier for entrenched politicians to make a mockery of the Federation's people and laws when it suits them. But some things are good and worthwhile. I have worked with colleagues in our state - even those you might boo and hiss at if they were on the stage with me now - to improve our education system. It may not be much, but steps toward good, accessible education for all our children is a good step toward a better and freer society. This is but one good law out of many which are being made - some of which may be unlikely, but others of which will be passed. While it may be slow, we will continue to make a better Federation and a better Silesia. Stand for democracy and your rights will come, your voices will be heard, and you will be free of corruption and threats - it may not be immediate, as other methods are, but it is better and it is successful.

 

[Fingon888]

I must change my vote to Aye on the Liberties of States Act.

 

[Guilu]

Veto and Impeachment Amendment : Nay
War and Emergency Measures Act : Aye
Labour Hours Act : Nay
Regulation of Interests Act : Nay
Liberties of States Act : Nay
Democratic Republic Act : Nay

[CROATIA]

The insistence of some to change a status quo that would work perfectly were it not for this Congress and radical elements systematically attempting to change it is frankly annoying. We should oppose the "Liberties" of States Act as it imposes a one-size-fits-all model on all states, despite repeated evidence that there is no such model.

As for the Veto and Impeachment Amendment, despite claims that it gives more power to Congress by allowing it to dismiss the President, this is a complete falsehood. We have, right now, an example of a President abusing his power and behaving as a petty King, trying to ignore the constitution. No more power should be given to him than what he now possesses - and a veto is one such power.

 

[viola]

Amendment on Presidential Veto and Impeachment: Yes, it clarify the roles of the Congress and the President.
War and Emergencies Act: Yes
Labour Hours Act: Yes, it's a necessary act to keep the Socialists at bay.
Regulation of Interests Act: Abstain
Liberties of States Act: NO, Confederalism is a menace to the unity of the Federation!
Democratic Republic Act:Yes, the will of the Danubian people is clear, without the application of this Referendum violence will only grow.

[Cisalpina]

- Pier Paolo Arpaio
Councillor for Cisalpina

 

[Somberg]

As for the Veto and Impeachment Amendment, despite claims that it gives more power to Congress by allowing it to dismiss the President, this is a complete falsehood. We have, right now, an example of a President abusing his power and behaving as a petty King, trying to ignore the constitution. No more power should be given to him than what he now possesses - and a veto is one such power.

And yet, Deputy Papp, by voting against the Veto and Impeachment Amendment you prevent Congress from removing the President if he behaves like a king. The President could do whatever the hell he pleases and Congress would be helpless to stop him. In addition, the same is true for Congress if the President does not have the power to veto any bills passed by it. It could pass whatever bills it wants to and the President could do nothing about it. This amendment gives more power to both the President and Congress. It creates an additional set of checks and balances which ensures that one branch of government does not have more power than another.

~ Silvestro Marconi, President of and Councillor for Cisalpina

 

[Guilu]

And yet, Deputy Papp, by voting against the Veto and Impeachment Amendment you prevent Congress from removing the President if he behaves like a king. The President could do whatever the hell he pleases and Congress would be helpless to stop him. In addition, the same is true for Congress if the President does not have the power to veto any bills passed by it. It could pass whatever bills it wants to and the President could do nothing about it. This amendment gives more power to both the President and Congress. It creates an additional set of checks and balances which ensures that one branch of government does not have more power than another.

I believe the President should be able to be removed by Congress without having veto power. Unlike what Mr. Soukup seems to believe, the range of action permitted by executive orders is not unlimited - a President cannot last long without the confidence of Congress.

 

[unmerged(718634)]

Presidential Veto and Impeachment Amendment-Aye
War and Emergency Measures Act-Aye
Labor Hours Act-Aye
Regulation of Interests Act-Aye
Liberty of States Act-Nay
Democratic Republic Act-Aye

Bedřich Pištora, Interim Deputy for Bohemia

 

[jeeshadow]

Veto and Impeachment Act: Aye
War and Emergency Measures Act: Aye
Labour Hours Act: Aye
Regulation of Interests Act: Abstain
Liberites of States Act: Nay
Democratic Republic Act: Aye
Employment Act: Aye

-Aetios Spiros, Minister of Justice
[Crete]

 

[Somberg]

I believe the President should be able to be removed by Congress without having veto power. Unlike what Mr. Soukup seems to believe, the range of action permitted by executive orders is not unlimited - a President cannot last long without the confidence of Congress.

And yet the President should be able to also check the power of Congress as well. You are proposing to create an unbalanced system in which Congress has more power than the President. The President and Congress should be equally powerful. The President should be able to check the power of Congress and Congress should be able to check the power of the President. I will oppose any efforts to give Congress more power than the President.

~ Silvestro Marconi, President of and Councillor for Cisalpina

 

[Fingon888]

I assume that the Democratic Republic Act will require a two-thirds majority.

 

[jeeshadow]

I assume that the Democratic Republic Act will require a two-thirds majority.

The Liberity of States Act should as well, as it does set some rules.

 

[Guilu]

I assume that the Democratic Republic Act will require a two-thirds majority.

The Liberity of States Act should as well, as it does set some rules.

((Yes and yes.))

And yet the President should be able to also check the power of Congress as well. You are proposing to create an unbalanced system in which Congress has more power than the President. The President and Congress should be equally powerful. The President should be able to check the power of Congress and Congress should be able to check the power of the President. I will oppose any efforts to give Congress more power than the President.

~ Silvestro Marconi, President of and Councillor for Cisalpina

We differ in opinions. I do not want the powers of the President to be increased when our states are so divided - the Presidency will always fail to represent all of them. Congress has more legitimacy in my eyes and therefore, should have the more power.

 

[jeeshadow]

((Yes and yes.))

We differ in opinions. I do not want the powers of the President to be increased when our states are so divided - the Presidency will always fail to represent all of them. Congress has more legitimacy in my eyes and therefore, should have the more power.

Even with the veto, Congress has more power. They can change the entire government with a 2/3rds majority. In our current system, the President has no power at all over Congress besides being able to disolve it.