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Officer Kerhasi is correct. The Canary Islands are, in my humble opinion, more strategically vital in the long-run.

I shall also voice my concerns over goal IV. Releasing the Philippines hardly seems relevant nor advantageous to Danubia. The Spanish maintain sizable amounts of colonial lands nearby, such as in the area known as Morocco. Acquiring and establishing further protectorates would grant us a unique market advantage, as well as an African foothold. No doubt the natives would appreciate a more benevolent partner.

- Governor-General Jovan Lilic
 

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Officer Kerhasi is correct. The Canary Islands are, in my humble opinion, more strategically vital in the long-run.

I shall also voice my concerns over goal IV. Releasing the Philippines hardly seems relevant nor advantageous to Danubia. The Spanish maintain sizable amounts of colonial lands nearby, such as the area known as Morocco. Acquiring and establishing further protectorates would grant us a unique market advantage, as well as an African foothold. No doubt the natives would appreciate a more benevolent partner.

- Governor-General Jovan Lilic

((They only own a single province in Morocco, the one occupied in Operational Phase 1.))
 

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A fair observation, do any other members of the chambers agree? If more consider this then I will switch the priority of the war goals to make the Canarias more of a priority than the Balearic Islands.

President Gabriel Soukup-Valenta

I am not so sure. The Canaries will only further colonization of West Africa, while my understanding was that our primary interests were in East Africa, hence the Suez Canal. Also, in the event of another war, the Balearics would be more defensible, while a blockade at Gibraltar would cut off access to the Canarias.
 

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I believe that the Balearic Islands are more useful to us than the Canarias. While both are indeed useful, I would argue it is best that we strengthen our strategic control of the Mediterranean rather than focus on providing access to colonize West Africa in the future. Each island chain is valuable to us, but I believe that the Balearic Islands hold much more good for us than the Canaries, at the current time.

I also believe that we should be willing to give up our demands for the Phillipines, as we gain little out of liberating or annexing them. Of course it gives us a way to project force into Asia, but we are not yet capable of mustering said force at all. It is too far away to be of any real value to us, and should be given up to conclude this war quicker.

~ Henrik Kraus, Chancellor for Austria

((Would players who have their character's belonging to the All-Danubian Conservative Party please state that they do, OOC? I don't think the front page is accurate any more, so I would like for us to update it. Well that and it always helps to know who you are to work with :p))
 
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I would like to announce a new appointment, specifically to the Ministry of Justice. I would like to announce that Mr. Aetios Spiros will be taking the post, assuming he accepts of course.

President Gabriel Soukup-Valenta
 

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I would like to announce a new appointment, specifically to the Ministry of Justice. I would like to announce that Mr. Aetios Spiros will be taking the post, assuming he accepts of course.

President Gabriel Soukup-Valenta
Thank you for the honor Mr. President. I shall do my best to uphold and defend the laws and justice systems of this Federation. I accept this great honor.
-Aetios Spiros

((I am not sure if I have to, but I am willing to resign as Prime Minister of Crete if it is required of me.))
 

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Thank you for the honor Mr. President. I shall do my best to uphold and defend the laws and justice systems of this Federation. I accept this great honor.
-Aetios Spiros

((I am not sure if I have to, but I am willing to resign as Prime Minister of Crete if it is required of me.))

((You don't have to resign as Prime Minister. It is only when you become President of the Federation that you would have to stand down from being head of government or state of your constituent state, so as to prevent clashing interests.
 

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((You don't have to resign as Prime Minister. It is only when you become President of the Federation that you would have to stand down from being head of government or state of your constituent state, so as to prevent clashing interests.
((Thanks, good to know. i guess I shall remain Prime Minister then, unless it is voiced that I should step down.))
 

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I believe that the Balearic Islands are more useful to us than the Canarias. While both are indeed useful, I would argue it is best that we strengthen our strategic control of the Mediterranean rather than focus on providing access to colonize West Africa in the future. Each island chain is valuable to us, but I believe that the Balearic Islands hold much more good for us than the Canaries, at the current time.

I also believe that we should be willing to give up our demands for the Phillipines, as we gain little out of liberating or annexing them. Of course it gives us a way to project force into Asia, but we are not yet capable of mustering said force at all. It is too far away to be of any real value to us, and should be given up to conclude this war quicker.

~ Henrik Kraus, Chancellor for Austria

((Would players who have their character's belonging to the All-Danubian Conservative Party please state that they do, OOC? I don't think the front page is accurate any more, so I would like for us to update it. Well that and it always helps to know who you are to work with :p))
((Good idea, would everyone currently in the Radical Union of the Federation please state it OOC as well? I think there are some errors on there for us too.)) I believe that liberating the Philippines should be a priority, below that of the island chains, but if the opportunity comes up we should attempt to free them from their Spanish overlords as well.
 

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Congratulations, Minister Spiros. I am sure you will serve the Federation well.

- Ritter Ervin von Braunschweig, Freiherr von Durz, State President of and Councillor for Albania (SDP)
 

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Gomułka enters the chambers accompanied by two Federal officers

Gentlemen,

I cannot express how shocked and disgusted I am by the actions of this Congress during these last few days. The president has managed to achieve a negotiated peace with the DRB to prevent further bloodshed yet you all attempt to undermine this because it facilitates a executive decree to pass the referendum and because you would rather fight and mount a death toll? What for? Your own personal ideals? No gentlemen, you are wrong...we were elected BY the people FOR the people...we do not go around killing those who elect us because we don't accept their views. Then I see you denounce the arrest of Mister Ravenjo, a man who has propagated violence against our own citizens, now he is a hero for this behavior? I think this Congress has lost its sanity...for what we are doing to our Federation is causing sheer death and destruction, do you all want this? I hope not.

It is with the behavior and actions of Congress that I have taken it unto myself to solve the crisis by declaring the Congress dissolved, if this is not done peacefully it will be carried out by force through the means of Federal soldiers. I further declare that the referendum is thus passed by executive decree and that a Federal Army shall enter the state of Silesia to maintain order and to see to it that the deposed King is escorted to his homeland. I have also to prevent any other problems arising ordered Federal Armies to remain near Vienna, Budapest, Lvov, Prague and Oradea. The Federal Army in Crete shall also see to the maintaining of order.

Gentlemen, I do this only because you have forced my hand...I just hope history books in the decades from now will show that this was the right decision...

As Gomułka leaves Federal troops enter into the chambers.
 

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((Sorry to disappoint, DensleyBlair, but I'm afraid he is the precise polar opposite - a radical Catholic!))

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Name: Oskar Schultheiß
Date of Birth: 1830 Sep 20
Place of Birth: Wien, Austria
Culture: German
Position: Councillor for Wien / Austria
Bio: Born to a secular Jewish family, he had a conversion experience in his college years which led him to Roman Catholicism. Inspired by the Early Church Fathers, by Pope Gregory XVI, by the Socialist reformer FJG Lassalle and Wilhelm Freiherr von Ketteler, Bishop of Mainz, he authored several papers in his youth advocating a radical Catholicism at once firm in its religious principles and sympathetic to the working classes. He currently represents the ADKP from Wien as he sympathises broadly with its aims of federalism, armed non-aggression and protection of fledgling industries, but has been considering founding his own electoral platform more sympathetic to radical interests.

During the DRB occupation of the city, he did not abandon Wien for Sopron but rather stayed in a safe-house for monarchists, which he helped defend. Once in office, he gave an impassioned speech defending the Labour Hours Act from a conservative standpoint. In early November 1863, he gave an interview with the Wiener Zeitung explaining how a conservative could take the positions he does on social reforms.
 
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Herr Gomułka, is that quite within your jurisdiction?

In any case, I wish to offer King Luitpold my hospitality in Vienna until he can arrange safe passage to Regensburg. I also welcome Herr Schultheiß into the chambers. May the madness spare you.

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Herr Liberalen,

The people empower me to do what is necessary for the Federation's survival, and what I have done...is the only solution.

~ Wojciech Gomułka, Minister of War
 
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Delegates and representatives mostly ignore this pompous proclamation, and Hofburg Guards swiftly disarm and arrest those few Federal troops tasked with 'dissolving' the Congress

Concerning the proposed goals, I find them wholly unsuitable. While I approve of colonisation as the manifestation of the divine European viceroyalty over the savages of the earth; those territories that have been put forwards for consideration hardly fit the bill. The Balearics for example are civilised islands filled with Spaniards; and neither in need of Danubian civilisation as we have no need of them. God forbid, as they cannot be a colony they may demand statehood.

The Canaries are more suitable but I suspect they are also filled with Spaniards and I would very much like to avoid randomly annexing the civilised. I would instead recommend the annexation of Spanish Morocco (ie. Melilla) to give us another foothold on the African continent, civilise the savages, and even blockade the Straits if need be. Also whilst annexing the entire Philippine island-chain would be difficult and unrealistic it is my considered belief that annexing the large northernmost island of Luzon would be a considerable advancement of our interests and trade in the East and much more easily accessible now due to the Suez Canal.

Joachim von Kirchberg,
Councillor for Austria &c.


((Haha, no. Nice try Max. Also, the Balearics of part of the region of Catalonia in-game and cannot be added as a separate war-goal. Annexing or freeing the entire Philippines is absurdly difficult in regards to war-score and should not even be considered.))
 

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More soldiers enter the chambers, they proceed to arrest the Hofburg Guards and release any Federal soldiers. They then stand at guard awaiting further orders.

If the Congress wants to attempt to defy the order to dissolve, then it shall be done by force. As martial law continues to have effect I hereby order the Republican National Guard to enter the capital of Vienna and to evict the stubborn members of this congress

~ Wojciech Gomułka, Minister of War
 
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