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Otto of england

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((Only councillor vote on none confidence votes right? If so 4 more and we got the 12/18 majority needed))
 

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As for the proposed state in Northern Hungary, I only have one suggestion, concerning its name. Naming it Slovakia would risk raising more nationalist flames, and, in convention with the rest of the states names, I propose Republic of Nitra as a name for the new state. From what I read on the region, this was the name of the principality who ruled the lands, even before Hungary was united.

It is not a proposed state, it has been officially recognized as the State of Slovakia. Any attempt to rename it would be an absurd appeasement of the treasonous rebels. It will be Slovakia.

I support the vote of no confidence against Frederick von Salzburg.
 

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It is not a proposed state, it has been officially recognized as the State of Slovakia. Any attempt to rename it would be an absurd appeasement of the treasonous rebels. It will be Slovakia.

As both State-President of Carniola and Leader of the Centre Party, I support the right of the Slovak people to choose the name of their state.
 

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It is not a proposed state, it has been officially recognized as the State of Slovakia. Any attempt to rename it would be an absurd appeasement of the treasonous rebels. It will be Slovakia.
It has not been officially recognized by the Federation as far as I'm aware. And I care about our unity, unlike some.

((Plus I like the more archaic names, keeps with the theme. Some good fun really.))

As both State-President of Carniola and Leader of the Centre Party, I support the right of the Slovak people to choose the name of their state.
Yet you are President of Carnolia, not Slovenia, are you ?
 

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Yet you are President of Carnolia, not Slovenia, are you ?

Slovenia is a regional term, Carniola is the State of the Federation.
 

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Slovenia is a regional term, Carniola is the State of the Federation.
What's to prevent Nitra from being the state of the federation ? It's the one that carries the history of the slovaks!

((Also I'm going to step out of character and point out that though Sykora is the only slovak PC, he certainly isn't the only slovak :eek:))
 

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Our Minister of Finance needs to be detained so he cannot do further harm to our Federation. I request Chancellor Vogel of Austria to detain him until Marshals Masaryk, Eckhel, and I have decided what shall be done. At the moment, I think it best his duties be split between the three Marshals of the National Emergency Council, until a suitable solution is found.

-Marshal Elias DeSanctis, Minister of Security
 

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Having received a formal request from the Minister of Security, I hereby order the Austrian State Police to take Frederick von Salzburg III into custody immediately. He is to be removed from the Hofburg Palace and held at the state police headquarters in Vienna pending further review of his status. Take him away.

~ Erich Vogel, Chancellor of Austria
 

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Our Minister of Finance needs to be detained so he cannot do further harm to our Federation. I request Chancellor Vogel of Austria to detain him until Marshals Masaryk, Eckhel, and I have decided what shall be done. At the moment, I think it best his duties be split between the three Marshals of the National Emergency Council, until a suitable solution is found.

-Marshal Elias DeSanctis, Minister of Security

I applaud the actions of Marshal DeSanctis. At least someone has sense in this madhouse.
 

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It has not been officially recognized by the Federation as far as I'm aware. And I care about our unity, unlike some.

It has, as per presidential decree. While some of those orders are obviously no longer in effect, I see no reason why the first one would not be.

What's to prevent Nitra from being the state of the federation ? It's the one that carries the history of the slovaks!

((Also I'm going to step out of character and point out that though Sykora is the only slovak PC, he certainly isn't the only slovak :eek:))


The Slovak people do not wish for that to be the name of their state, that is what. I am astounded as to why you must insist that the Slovak people not receive the right to name their own state. Slovakia carries the history of the Slovaks as well as the present, and "Nitra" would spark just as much "nationalism"... that is to say, almost none. Why would you think one is better than the other? Why do you care about our affairs? Isn't it just as inflammatory that Croatia is named after the Croat people, by your logic?

Surely there are more productive uses of our time?

((We're not really using that many archaic names. Maybe Carniola, but some people would have used that name back then. Absolutely no one went around calling anything Nitra or Great Moravia. It's really not in convention with the rest of the state names, at all.

And in the absence of any other Slovaks we have to assume that Sykora represents the views of the majority of Slovaks, if not all of them. Or else should I not be able to do things in character because of what imaginary people might hypothetically think?))
 

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Kraus laughs as Salzburg is escorted out of the building

Well I suppose that means the vote of no confidence is now redundant! I have a question though... Am I to be put on trial? No formal declaration has been made, so I am wondering why I am still in captivity if I am not to be put on trial.

~ Victor Kraus, GCM, Prisioner of the National Emergency Council
 

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Regardless, Croatia is likely to accept this decision and offer its support in securing Crete. ((Thoctar, get me a joint declaration here!))

As for the proposed state in Northern Hungary, I only have one suggestion, concerning its name. Naming it Slovakia would risk raising more nationalist flames, and, in convention with the rest of the states names, I propose Republic of Nitra as a name for the new state. From what I read on the region, this was the name of the principality who ruled the lands, even before Hungary was united.
Venice thanks Croatia for her support; and also supports the proposed new name for Slovakia as a way to ease tensions in the area.

You misunderstand, I was not speaking of His Serenity.
Than whom were you speaking of, Marshal?

There we go!
Venice welcomes the Croat contingent as guests to help keep the peace within the Venetian territory of the Duchy.

However Venice is an important port of the Federation. There is military necessity to make sure the city is secure so that the Federal fleets are not cut off in these troubled times. Any other idle speculation is unfortunate, but groundless.
It is indeed; which is why I am fully assured of the combined capabilities of the Venetian forces in the region, combined with the Red Star Fleet, t handle the situation. And need I remind you again that Venetian borders are closed?
 

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Surely there are more productive uses of our time?
((There really aren't.))

((We're not really using that many archaic names. Maybe Carniola, but some people would have used that name back then. Absolutely no one went around calling anything Nitra or Great Moravia. It's really not in convention with the rest of the state names, at all.))
((Well, there's Bohemia. The rest are admittedly regional names, but most of them carry historical significance. Slovakia just comes out of nowhere though.))

Hear me out : If you name your state in Northern Hungary after the slovak people, where will that logic lead us ? Pan-nationalism is the other great threat to our nation, whether it comes from those who want to form Germany, Italy, Slavia, Romania.. even Hungary wants a piece of Transylvania! We should not give any credit to this ideology, and not name the slovakian state after the slovak people.
 

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We really should begin the trial for Mr. Kraus - are the courts cleaned up enough to proceed?

Having received a formal request from the Minister of Security, I hereby order the Austrian State Police to take Frederick von Salzburg III into custody immediately. He is to be removed from the Hofburg Palace and held at the state police headquarters in Vienna pending further review of his status. Take him away.

~ Erich Vogel, Chancellor of Austria
I commend the actions of Chancellor Vogel and my fellow Marshal DeSanctis in taking care of this issue.

It is indeed; which is why I am fully assured of the combined capabilities of the Venetian forces in the region, combined with the Red Star Fleet, t handle the situation. And need I remind you again that Venetian borders are closed?
However, the military staff does not have your confidence. It is our job to protect the Federation and protect against any threats we may have gotten wind of, especially for such a historic and beautiful city such as Venice. May I remind you that interstate borders are open to the Federal Army?
 

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Kraus laughs as Salzburg is escorted out of the building

Well I suppose that means the vote of no confidence is now redundant! I have a question though... Am I to be put on trial? No formal declaration has been made, so I am wondering why I am still in captivity if I am not to be put on trial.

~ Victor Kraus, GCM, Prisioner of the National Emergency Council

I see it as the vote of non confidence being extremly effective only needing 9/18 councillors to vote on to work.

Seeing as Schelsian is a state yet has no repersentation in the congress I porpose i become de-facto councillor for Schelsian until the election in 1856 where they decide for them selves. I am the most logical person for the job being the only North German politican here, so unless someone objects I will consider my self as such until 1856, when I will step down if not re-elected.

- Otto von Tirpitz, acting councillor for Schelsian
 

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Thank you General Eckhel, the sooner this trial is conducted, the better. ((Are all the Generals online? Might as well get this trial as done as soon as possible.))

~ Victor Kraus, GCM, Prisioner of the National Emergency Council
 

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Deputy Papp, I believe you should stop trying to force the Slovaks to accept a name for their state that they don't want. You are not a Slovak, nor do you represent the Slovak people. If they wish to have their state called Slovakia, then so be it. There is nothing you can do about it.

~ Rodrigo Vertucci, Councillor for Lombardia
 

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Than whom were you speaking of, Marshal?
I doubt you need me to clarify, Signore.

I applaud the actions of Marshal DeSanctis. At least someone has sense in this madhouse.
I commend the actions of Chancellor Vogel and my fellow Marshal DeSanctis in taking care of this issue.
Thank you, Councillor Popa and Marshal Eckhel.

((If MrMann is online, then all three Marshals are ready.))

-Marshal DeSanctis, Minister of Security
 

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Deputy Papp, I believe you should stop trying to force the Slovaks to accept a name for their state that they don't want. You are not a Slovak, nor do you represent the Slovak people. If they wish to have their state called Slovakia, then so be it. There is nothing you can do about it.

~ Rodrigo Vertucci, Councillor for Lombardia
((I'm honestly A. stalling for theAhawk to get an update. B. stating my preference for the other name.
I just wanted to do it IC for a bit, even though it's.. quite silly. I've done worse though. Hopefully I'll get some support from the other people who are scared of pan-nationalists.))
 
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