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I asked you a question. It was not a rhetorical question. You did not answer, so I will assume you did not hear. Would you compromise for less than statehood if Venice were a part of Lombardy?
Perhaps, Councillor, you have heard of the Kingdom of Lombardy-Venezia? It was the constituent state under which Venezia existed during Hapsburg domination;under which the two were equally united. Milan broke out in rebellion several times, and we briefly declared independence. Such a union would not be suitable. However, large parts of Lombardy were under Venetian rule for quite some time and were granted autonomy and self-rule if not outright independence. If through the grace of God the situation was reversed; I would be content with a Podesta sent to Milan and some self-rule; and so would the Venetian people.
 

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Unfortunently, as Mocenigo, Kraus and I all not Hungarian representitives, none of us can help you.
 

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Perhaps, Councillor, you have heard of the Kingdom of Lombardy-Venezia? It was the constituent state under which Venezia existed during Hapsburg domination;under which the two were equally united. Milan broke out in rebellion several times, and we briefly declared independence. Such a union would not be suitable. However, large parts of Lombardy were under Venetian rule for quite some time and were granted autonomy and self-rule if not outright independence. If through the grace of God the situation was reversed; I would be content with a Podesta sent to Milan and some self-rule; and so would the Venetian people.

We are granted neither autonomy nor self-rule, and certainly not independence. If we were, we would be a state already. Looking at current and past events, I somehow doubt that the Venetian people would be content if they were placed in the same situation as the Slovak people, and those words of yours are certainly very easy to say when you know that you will never have to live up to them.
 

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Who would the Russian's ally with Councillor? It's old enemy, the Turk? Us, or Prussia, Russia's most recent enemies? France, our ally? The UK, who Russia has successfully antagonized recently? I understand your concern, but we are not about to be politically outflanked by the Bear. As for dealing with their armies, I suggest bringing our military up to full strength, and to strenghting the border.

~ Victor Kraus, GCM

You may be right about not being political outflanked, honestly I think my hatred for russia was clouding my judgement. Though I agree 100% that our armies must be strengthed, so if an opportunity present its self that we could liberate land from russia, which I think its our job as a multi-ethinic republic to do.

Now this leaves a big question if we are to expand the army how shale we do it? More troops per army, or more armies? If we make more armies who will we pick to lead the new armies? I havent had a good look around but, so far it seams that we are low on experienced commanders.

~ Otto von Tirpitz
 

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We are granted neither autonomy nor self-rule, and certainly not independence. If we were, we would be a state already. Looking at current and past events, I somehow doubt that the Venetian people would be content if they were placed in the same situation as the Slovak people, and those words of yours are certainly very easy to say when you know that you will never have to live up to them.
That is because, when like proposals came up in the Hungarian legislature, you rejected them.

And I'm confused as to why, after I do answer your question; you discard it and accuse me of either cowardice or flippancy.
 

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That is because, when like proposals came up in the Hungarian legislature, you rejected them.

And I'm confused as to why, after I do answer your question; you discard it and accuse me of either cowardice or flippancy.

When did proposals for Slovak statehood come up in the Hungarian legislature, except for mine?

I do not accuse you of cowardice. On the contrary, I think you are brave to make such ridiculous claims, considering the death of your predecessor at the hands of his constituents.
 

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I do not accuse you of cowardice. On the contrary, I think you are brave to make such ridiculous claims, considering the death of your predecessor at the hands of his constituents.
Mocenigo merely leaves the chambers; shaking his head in disgust.

((In other words, goodnight gentlemen! This has been a constructive day; esp. with the electoral coup. Check your damn inbox Guilu; and keep on federating!))
 

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Is the other loon gone ? Good. Maybe Mr. Sik, or one of his associates, will care to answer my question now ?

Let's forget about Bohemia for now - we'll just count it as a nice side-effect.
Why do you want to give these "vital workers" such benefits ? Even if we leave aside the fact that you'll be encroaching on the functionment of the free market, why not just increase their pay ? It seems like a simpler, more efficient way to do these things, and they will figure out themselves what to do with their money without having the federal government holding their hand.
 
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((I wonder what you guys are plotting))

((Nobody tells me anything :glare:))

I am curious on how this liberal-conservative collation will work? Will Nikolic be the VP? What if Karoly refuses, since he is winning ((106 to 67 to nothing since Lombardy, Croatia, and Transylvania are all crossed out.)) does he really need to accept the collation? Unless the liberals are merely just casting their votes to ours and demanding nothing in return I could see this agreement working. But that is not likely, so I would like be clear on this subject so we know what we're getting into. ((no fair, having all the arguments while I was sick!))+
 

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((Nobody tells me anything :glare:))

I am curious on how this liberal-conservative collation will work? Will Nikolic be the VP? What if Karoly refuses, since he is winning ((106 to 67 to nothing since Lombardy, Croatia, and Transylvania are all crossed out.)) does he really need to accept the collation? Unless the liberals are merely just casting their votes to ours and demanding nothing in return I could see this agreement working. But that is not likely, so I would like be clear on this subject so we know what we're getting into. ((no fair, having all the arguments while I was sick!))+
((We worked out the details by PM, but I have to say I didn't get the last update so if Watercress can enlighten us :)
Also you can't win with 106 votes - you need 114 or more, and if nobody has enough votes by the deadline, then the deadline is extended and people are encouraged to switch their vote.))
 

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Letter to Vienna

"The Hungarian League is worried about this new coalition between the Conservatives and the Nikolic Faction. Does this mean the incompetent fools that have mismanaged the Federation for years will be kept in power. This is not why the League backed de Nyitra."

signed, Count Gyula Bethlen
 

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Letter to Vienna

"The Hungarian League is worried about this new coalition between the Conservatives and the Nikolic Faction. Does this mean the incompetent fools that have mismanaged the Federation for years will be kept in power. This is not why the League backed de Nyitra."

signed, Count Gyula Bethlen

Letter to Bethlen

Nikolic shall not be leader of this Federation as President, so his personal incompetence is limited. With the Conservative's dominating the coalition, it truly would take a massive failure by the liberals if this term were to be a repeat of the previous/current presidency.

Regards,

Victor Kraus, GCM

((Also, have the riots in Vienna calmed down? It'd make things a helluva lot easier if they have.))
 

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((Also, have the riots in Vienna calmed down? It'd make things a helluva lot easier if they have.))
((I think they have.))
 

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(( Nikolic will not be president, nor is he leading the liberals anymore.))
 

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As it appears this election has robbed the good people of any choice in candidate - voting either between myself, a Radical, or a monstrous coalition of opposite views, I must make the following statement.

I shall continue to run in this election as a Candidate, so that the people may at least have the illusion of choice between a conservative dominated government and a progressive one. The leadership of the Pan-Danubian Liberal Party, formally of the Slavic-Romanian Liberal Party, is content to betray it's liberal followers and sell the government to the conservatives in exchange for a reshuffle of Pan-Danubian liberals and a possibility of remaining in some cabinet seats. It is content to associate itself with accused slanderers, former royalists and men who have previously demanded Austrio-Hungarian dominance in the Federation. It has allowed the cries of State-sovereignty to cloud it's judgement. And more importantly, it has taken away the people's choice in this election. Very few men who voted Pan-Danubian did so in the hope that they form a government with the Conservatives. To believe this so is to demand the tides change direction.

In protest of the fact that our democracy is being run by shady men in smoky rooms, rather than true electoral democracy, after the election is done I shall resign from my post as Leader of the Radical Union and my seat as Councillor for Bohemia. This congress has become a house of slander, of corruption and of lust for power, instead of the tool of progress within the Federation.

I shall leave it to my party to name a new leader once the election has ended. I shall have no more part in this travesty of Democracy.

- Petr Šik, Czech councillor for Bohemia


((Explanation: I planned to have Sik die of illness during his posting in government, as I'm really running out of time to take part in this AAR and I thought I should give my character some closure before I'm forced to drop this for work and education. However, I think instead a symbolic retirement out of protest is a lot more fitting.

(and have no fear, Ab Ovo, the thing I PMed you is still going to happen so MILK IT FOR ALL IT'S WORTH)))

((oh and I'm still suing the pants off of Councillor Papp for accusing Sik of orchestrating the venetian murders :laugh: ))
 

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As it appears this election has robbed the good people of any choice in candidate - voting either between myself, a Radical, or a monstrous coalition of opposite views, I must make the following statement.

Mocenigo grins hugely

((Explanation: I planned to have Sik die of illness during his posting in government, as I'm really running out of time to take part in this AAR and I thought I should give my character some closure before I'm forced to drop this for work and education. However, I think instead a symbolic retirement out of protest is a lot more fitting.

(and have no fear, Ab Ovo, the thing I PMed you is still going to happen so MILK IT FOR ALL IT'S WORTH)))

((oh and I'm still suing the pants off of Councillor Papp for accusing Sik of orchestrating the venetian murders :laugh: ))

((Its unfortunate we're losing such a.... colourful character. How will Bohemia stay red without adequate representation? And believe me, I'll milk it dry.))
 

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((Its unfortunate we're losing such a.... colourful character. How will Bohemia stay red without adequate representation? And believe me, I'll milk it dry.))

((Don't worry, I'll be back in a few weeks/AAR decades with a new character. I'll leave all of you to guess which socialist figure they're based on!))
 

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The streets lay quiet, and torn propaganda posters breeze through the streets. Victor Kraus wanders through the city a look of profound sadness on his face.

“It used to be such a beautiful city” he thought, “Now a bunch of fools have once again nearly brought fair Vienna to its knees.”

As he wandered he saw an old man trip and spill his few coins all over the ground, drawing the attention of a bunch of dirty, vagabond-looking men. As he started towards the man, intending to help, he noticed that the other men were already moving forwards. Kraus opened his mouth to shout at the men, but closed it in stunned silence as the men helped the old man up and gathered up his coins for him. One of the men noticed Victor staring at them, and slowly walked over to where he stood.

“You seem surprised sir” the man said in a weary voice.

“Well… Yes! I thought…” Victor began to say

“No, I understand what you must have thought. Normally you would be correct in your assumptions, but not now.”

“Why? Why have you changed? Divine inspiration?”

At this the man gave a short barking laugh. “Divine inspiration? No. We have all suffered enough, that is why we helped the man. It was the riots. So much and so many lost…So much suffering…”

“I’m sorry. Really.”

“Aye, I suppose you would be sir. After all it was you politicians who caused this.”

“How do you know…”

“I’ve seen you giving speeches before Herr Kraus, I recognize you. I like you. You’re a good man, but that doesn’t make you guilt free of all of this.”

“I assure you…”

“Assurances won’t bring back my dead brothers, hung by the Legion of St Mark for having sympathies with the Radicals. Nor my wife, killed by those mad rioters for being Italian. No, you politicians and your ideas brought this to our city, to us. You are to blame. But it’s too late now. Everyone is sick and tired of the hatred and the killings. The anger isn’t gone. Just subdued.”

“I wish I could have prevented this…”

“I wish you could’ve to, Herr Kraus. Well goodbye. What's left of my family needs me."

As the man wandered off down the once again deserted street, Victor walked in the other direction, back to his accommodations for the night.

As Kraus entered the hostel, the streets once again became empty and seemingly lifeless.

((Just for everyone's information; this update's sole purpose is to make everyone aware that the riots in Vienna are finished and that it is once again safe to work in the Federal Chambers, rather than everyone writing letters to one another.
 

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As it appears this election has robbed the good people of any choice in candidate - voting either between myself, a Radical, or a monstrous coalition of opposite views, I must make the following statement.

I shall continue to run in this election as a Candidate, so that the people may at least have the illusion of choice between a conservative dominated government and a progressive one. The leadership of the Pan-Danubian Liberal Party, formally of the Slavic-Romanian Liberal Party, is content to betray it's liberal followers and sell the government to the conservatives in exchange for a reshuffle of Pan-Danubian liberals and a possibility of remaining in some cabinet seats. It is content to associate itself with accused slanderers, former royalists and men who have previously demanded Austrio-Hungarian dominance in the Federation. It has allowed the cries of State-sovereignty to cloud it's judgement. And more importantly, it has taken away the people's choice in this election. Very few men who voted Pan-Danubian did so in the hope that they form a government with the Conservatives. To believe this so is to demand the tides change direction.

In protest of the fact that our democracy is being run by shady men in smoky rooms, rather than true electoral democracy, after the election is done I shall resign from my post as Leader of the Radical Union and my seat as Councillor for Bohemia. This congress has become a house of slander, of corruption and of lust for power, instead of the tool of progress within the Federation.

I shall leave it to my party to name a new leader once the election has ended. I shall have no more part in this travesty of Democracy.

- Petr Šik, Czech councillor for Bohemia


((Explanation: I planned to have Sik die of illness during his posting in government, as I'm really running out of time to take part in this AAR and I thought I should give my character some closure before I'm forced to drop this for work and education. However, I think instead a symbolic retirement out of protest is a lot more fitting.

(and have no fear, Ab Ovo, the thing I PMed you is still going to happen so MILK IT FOR ALL IT'S WORTH)))

((oh and I'm still suing the pants off of Councillor Papp for accusing Sik of orchestrating the venetian murders :laugh: ))

Bah, you protest too much Councillor! I for one shall be glad to see the end of your constant attempts to paint the Federation red!

((aww, I liked Sik. A Bohemian radical was a real interesting character to deal with.))
 
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