A Federation of "Equals" - A Danubian Federation Interative AAR

[DensleyBlair]

((What have I started? Now I am going to be forced to include ever more cryptic references just to keep up... Well played, my friend, well played...))

((Ah, but did you get the Vale reference? ))

((Now I am imagined a aged Liberalen played by William Hartnell))

((When Liberalen died, he was just a bit younger than Hartnell in '63, so – assuming the BBC in this timeline will ine day decide to commission a dramatisation about the Wallachian War, I imagine he'd be a shoe-in for the part. ))

 

[99KingHigh]

((Ah, but did you get the Vale reference? ))



((When Liberalen died, he was just a bit younger than Hartnell in '63, so – assuming the BBC in this timeline will ine day decide to commission a dramatisation about the Wallachian War, I imagine he'd be a shoe-in for the part. ))

((The Wallachian War, featuring William Hartnell as Liberalen, Kenneth Branagh as General Arthur, Patrick Stewart as the Tsar, and Brian Blessed as Symon Revenjo.))

 

[DensleyBlair]

The Last Will and Testament of Wolfram Liberalen

In the event of my death, I, the aforementioned, hereby bequeath my financial assets in their entirety (excepting as laid out in paragraph two) to my son, Florian Petr Cicero, and wife, Františka, with the latter of whom to act as sole beneficiary until such time that my son is of a majority age. In the same fashion, I also bequeath my properties at Josefstadt, Bartbeg and Budapest. My son is also to succeed me as Baron of Dürz with immediate effect.

To the Teutonic Order, I bequeath a charitable donation of £10,000 with the express wish that it be used to fund programmes to benefit those affected by the Wallachian War. I also bequeath £1,000 to the Liberal Times of Vienna with the intention that it be used to publish an anthology of my life's work – including my biography, which is to be completed.

To the National Reform Union, I bequeath the original manuscript copy of my entire bibliography for display in their headquarter libraries. To President Gabriel Soukup-Valenta, I specifically bequeath my first edition copy of Immanuel Kant's Critique of Pure Reason in the hope that you shall find inspiration within its texts as I did so long ago.

I bequeath to my son all my copies of works by Kant, Locke and Montesquieu, and wish for the remainder of my library to be equally divided between Café Katzmayr, Josefstadt, Vienna; the University of Vienna and the Presidential libraries at Schloß Schönbrunn.

To Andrei I. Popa, I bequeath all spirits, liquors and other alcoholic beverages in my possession, safe in the knowledge that, wherever he is, he shall put them to far better use than I ever would have done.

To the Kraus family, I leave my collection of different coffee beans, as a memento of my first meeting with Victor in the Café.

To Feldmarschall Symon Revenjo, I bequeath my collection of ceremonial swords, as well as my signed manuscript of Chopin's Minute Waltz. Also, I bequeath to you my eternal thanks and gratitude for all you have done throughout the years. Treasure this more than any award this Federation may bestow upon you.

To Jovan Lilic, I bequeath all possessions acquired as a result of my work in the Foreign and Colonial Office. May your spirit of adventure never fade.

To all citizens of our Federation, present and future, I bequeath my ideals and my spirit. May the revolution never be deemed in vain, and may liberty shine on forevermore.

Should I not have accounted for any items, I give plenipotentiary discretion to the executors of my will, who may do with them as they feel I would have. To that end, I hereby name President Gabriel Soukup-Valenta and Feldmarschall Symon Revenjo as executors of my estate.

Finally, to all whom I have wronged, I bequeath my unreserved apologies, and to all by whom I have been wronged, I bequeath my undying forgiveness. In death we see a fresh start for all, not the festering of trivial mortal disputes.

We shall meet again one day, yet until such time comes, act always with a kindness of heart and a nobility of spririt and judgement.

Ich dien Tugend im Ernst.

W.L.​

 

[yourworstnightm]

New character!!

Colonel Otto Metzler
born 1838
Austrian

Bastard son of a butcher and a prostitute, grew up as an outcast on the streets of Vienna. Joined the army at the age of 16 (in 1854) and has slowly advanced the ranks and has fought in all wars since. During the Civil War he fought on the monarchistg side, not because of ideology, but because his regiment was under the command of Monarchist officers. Nevertheless his carreer continued after the civil war, and his career climbing continued slowly. Made colonel during the Wallachian war because of his leadership abilities in tight situations (and because a colonel position became open due to a old colonel swallowing a chicken leg by mistake). Metzler is not a member of a political party neither has he ever shown support for a specific side in politics. Since the end of the war he's awaiting his peace time commission.

 

[Terraferma]

After hearing the Last Will and Testament of Wlfram Liberalen Valenta spoke out.

I motion towards the President, President Spiros to organize and conduct the State Funeral fully paid for by the federal government for our dearly departed friend, with the highest of honors. He should be held in state for three days so that foreign dignitaries and the public can pay their last respects and bid farewell to one of the Federation's loved and honored sons. Afterwards a private funeral can be held if the family deems it. During State Funeral the convention should go into recess to mark this somber event.

- Foreign Minister Gabriel Soukup-Valenta

 

[Maxwell500]

It is most definitely a very sad day to see the passing of Wolfram Liberalen, a man who has proven himself time and time again a patriot to this Federation and above all, a good man with a good moral code. I concur with the Foreign Minister and say that a State Funeral is well deserved for a former President and champion of the people.

Nicolò Donato
Minister of Internal Affairs

 

[Guilu]

Mr. Kysely, why pretend that it is impossible for the Congress to act against the peoples of this federation when it already has repeatedly ? Need I remind of the wars, countless as they were ? The purges ? The popular revolutions crushed under boot and iron ? Why pretend that the Congress does not seek to further its influence over the states, when every single bill it has passed only accomplishes this ? Will you pretend that the insane limitation of workhours pushed forward by your party are the premise of the central government that binds our sovereign nations in a defensive alliance ? Will you pretend that the countless hours, paid for by the people's taxes, that have been wasted vomitting delirium about monarchies, have had any use ? The actions that your party has supported have been going against every particularity of the states, against the will of their people. A majority in Congress can still mean that millions of our people disapprove its action - why should it have such importance and power of decision ? Let us let the nations decide for themselves, and be sovereign as they deserve.

And then you go on and tell me that confederalism sheds blood with every step. The false history you keep talking is coming from the left. The tale where we all happily accepted the fall of the monarchy as the end goal of the Spring of Nations, the one where the civil war had clear lines and objectives and did not oppose brother to brother, father against son, that is no more than a tale. It is time for you to stop pretending otherwise.

((theAhawk, do we need 2/3rds majority for constitutional articles to pass ? 3/4ths ? Simple majority would feel odd to say the least.))

 

[Gen. Marshall]

Mr. Sykora, why pretend that it is impossible for the Congress to act against the peoples of this federation when it already has repeatedly ? Need I remind of the wars, countless as they were ? The purges ? The popular revolutions crushed under boot and iron ? Why pretend that the Congress does not seek to further its influence over the states, when every single bill it has passed only accomplishes this ? Will you pretend that the insane limitation of workhours pushed forward by your party are the premise of the central government that binds our sovereign nations in a defensive alliance ? Will you pretend that the countless hours, paid for by the people's taxes, that you have wasted shouting your delirium on monarchs, have had any use ? The actions that your party has supported have been going against every particularity of the states, against their sovereignty and often against the will of their people. A majority in Congress can still mean that millions of our people disapprove its action - why should it have such importance and power of decision ? Let us let the nations decide for themselves.

And then you go on and tell me that confederalism sheds blood with every step. The false history you keep talking is coming from the left. The tale where we all happily accepted the fall of the monarchy as the end goal of the Spring of Nations, the one where the civil war had clear lines and objectives and did not oppose brother to brother, father against son, that is no more than a tale. It is time for you to stop pretending otherwise.

((theAhawk, do we need 2/3rds majority for constitutional articles to pass ? 3/4ths ? Simple majority would feel odd to say the least.))

((Since these are not amendments, but the basis of an entirely new Constitution (and subsequently one proposal has to pass), I think we will follow the EoE system and go for simple majority, with greater majority articles overpowering those which barely passed in case of conflict.))

Mr. Papp, aside from the fact that I do not agree with your implication that Congress acts as an over-arching terrorizing Monarchy of sorts, I wish to point out that the very reasoning you applied to a Federal level is also relevant at a state level. What, in your eyes, would the difference be? After all, Congress is voted into power by all men in the Federation, just like its representatives, including you, hail from all over the Federation.

- Giuseppe Barzini

 

[theAhawk]

((theAhawk, do we need 2/3rds majority for constitutional articles to pass ? 3/4ths ? Simple majority would feel odd to say the least.))

((Nope; simple majority rules, as was stated at the end of the last update.))

 

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Article for the Continuity of Law and Order: Yes
Statement of Fundamental Principles: Yes
Acceptance of a Unitary System: No
Principles of this Federation Clause: No
Presidential Republic Proposal: No
Parliamentary Republic Proposal: Yes
Act of Name: No
Establishment of Federal Supremacy: Yes
Assurance of States' Rights: No

 

[Otto of england]

The Silesian Monthly​

The Future of Monarchy
By: Frydryk Augustyniak​

With the on going constitutional convention going on, several important questions are being raised about how Danubia will run in the future. The fore most of these questions is the now tired debate on Monarchism. Champions from the left wing state that state that Monarchies are inherently antidemocratic, authoritarian and incompatible with Danubia as a whole.

The weakest of all the arguments is by far that Monarchies are inherently antidemocratic. Advocates from the left wing state that every person has the right to choose their own head of state and Monarchies are not popular. These arguments sound good but, they all lack the same common weakness – they are all just radical demagogue.

In states such as Silesia the people do have their right to choose their head of state, and they have exercised it. Fore in Silesia the people have agreed to a constitution that implements a Monarch as their head of state. This means that the Monarch is infact the people exercising their right and its continuance to this day preach the desire that Silesian want a Monarchy and are happy to live under one.

Now the left wing also advocates that Monarchies come into being without consulting the people and that people don’t want them, so therefore removing the Monarchy is doing a good deed. Yet this is not the truth, as a Monarch that has come into existence post 1848 has been by the will of the people, not by someone forcing their hand and not by corruption of politicians. The Silesia Monarchy came into being after a series of 3 referendums that all showed that the people want a Monarchy, by a significant margin and this was reaffirmed in 1863 by another referendum and this time by a 5/6 majority.

Authoritarianism, the left wing would have you believe only comes from Monarchs and only Monarchs. While some Monarchs are authoritarian, they only exist in non democratic forms. Constitutional Monarchies, the ones found in Danubia such as Albania and Silesia are the exact opposite of Authoritarian. In both cases the Monarch has little power and any powers they do have are only valid if asked by the House or Head of Government or in the event that a dictator has seized power. This means that a Monarchs only power’s are there because someone must hold them and they are the least partisan member of government.

Now advocates from the left wing state that Monarchy is against the spirit of the revolution, therefore incompatible with Danubia. This is a rather silly argument because the revolution was to remove authoritarian rule from an Absolute Monarchy. As of now there are no Absolute Monarchies in Danubia and all states with Monarchies were never part of the initial revolution so the state never had this ‘Revolutionary Spirit’ anyways.

So while the left wing advocates the removal of Monarchy and the Right wing the keeping of it you now will be properly able to decide for yourself with the facts straight. Yet if the time comes that Silesia’s Monarchy is overthrown by Vienna, we must ask ourselves, does this Federation have good intention, or is it just a façade to a Authoritarian dictatorship?


((Not my best essay but, I didnt put too much effort since this is only a game.))

 

[Gen. Marshall]

((Not my best essay but, I didnt put too much effort since this is only a game.))

((What do you mean, it's just a game? Surely, if this were just a game, people wouldn't get so upset all the time? ))

 

[Otto of england]

((What do you mean, it's just a game? Surely, if this were just a game, people wouldn't get so upset all the time? ))

((Your right, I forgot this is real life, silly me. ))

 

[DensleyBlair]

((What do you mean, it's just a game? Surely, if this were just a game, people wouldn't get so upset all the time? ))

((Naturally. I've just died, and am now speaking to you through the medium of recently discovered journal entries.

Speaking of which, my new character will make an entrance soon enough. It'll probably be once the next "week" starts, though. I don't have the time for protracted debates at the moment.))

 

[Terraferma]

((Naturally. I've just died, and am now speaking to you through the medium of recently discovered journal entries.

Speaking of which, my new character will make an entrance soon enough. It'll probably be once the next "week" starts, though. I don't have the time for protracted debates at the moment.))

(Yes. We got a Football league to tend to! Army will have its revenge! Defense wins championships!)

 

[Thoctar]

(Yes. We got a Football league to tend to! Army will have its revenge! Defense wins championships!)

((I think the simple fact that there now exists football teams in our "game" proves its much more than that )) A dear friend has passed and we all will mourn. He was a good friend of mine for many years, and we all cherished him greatly. I will be sad to see him go, but life must always go on. Goodbye, dear friend, and may let your spirit carry on in this new land, whatever its name, size, or nature becomes.

 

[Jako473]

Now that Hochmeister Wolfram is dead, we should hold a new grand convene of the order's knights and emissaries to meet together and decide the new Hochmeister!

-President-Minister Charles Jakopin


((If there is any confusion, I became[or petitioned at least] to become a knight of the order a little after I made this character. So its not unnatural for him to want to re-organize it.))

 

[Keperry]

((Since we're talking about what to do with all of Liberalen's various projects and shadowy cults, what about the Progressive Society?))

 

[Guilu]

Assurance of States’ Rights : Yes

((Since we're voting on it. Previous messages have been edited so I'm not arguing with people who are not there - be careful that Papp is not at the convention either.))

 

[jeeshadow]

As President of the Federation, order, if it is my capacity, to have a state funeral for the great man President Liberalin.
-President Spiros