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Maybe a deal could have been agreed upon between the republican government and forces in the Ukraine.
To allow the region to join the Republic, but have a fair degree of autonomy.
However they're probably will be times in which discontent could arise in the region.

Also Kerensky won't be in office forever.

So what are we doing about the Baltic states and Poland?
 

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I'm not sure whether anyone can really answer this question. You're the one making the mod, and the only person with enough authority to know whether something would be consistent or valid. All we can do is provide personal opinions and references to OTL historical facts.
Yeah I understand, but I would really like to hear your recommendation. :)
 

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My suggestion of Polish Government:


HoS: Edward Rydz-Śmigły (PA) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Rydz-Śmigły
HoG: Boleslaw Wieniawa-Dlugoszewski (PA) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolesław_Wieniawa-Długoszowski
FM: August Zaleski (PA) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Zaleski
AM: Eugeniusz Kwiatkowski (PA) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugeniusz_Kwiatkowski
MoS: Kazimierz Świtalski (PA) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazimierz_Świtalski
HoI: Kazimierz Sosnkowski (PA) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazimierz_Sosnkowski
CoS: Wacław Stachiewicz (PA) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wacław_Stachiewicz
CoA: Wladyslaw Bortnowski (PA) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Władysław_Bortnowski
CoN: Jerzy Swirski (PA) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerzy_Świrski
CoAF: Józef Zając (PA) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Józef_Zając

My history of Poland:
Pilsudzki died in 1921 by assasination attempt (http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zamach_na_Józefa_Piłsudskiego_we_Lwowie_(1921)). To power comes his close associate Edward Rydz-Śmigły who creates an authoritarian Polish state. He leads very anti-Russian policy, and tries to have good relations with German neighbor.

Of course this is just suggestion. All in all im not very interested in Polish history (how ironic).

I don't know what to do with Baltic states. Ask some guys from these countries.
 
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My suggestion of Polish Government:


HoS: Edward Rydz-Śmigły (PA) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Rydz-Śmigły
HoG: Boleslaw Wieniawa-Dlugoszewski (PA) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolesław_Wieniawa-Długoszowski
FM: August Zaleski (PA) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Zaleski
AM: Eugeniusz Kwiatkowski (PA) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugeniusz_Kwiatkowski
MoS: Kazimierz Świtalski (PA) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazimierz_Świtalski
HoI: Kazimierz Sosnkowski (PA) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazimierz_Sosnkowski
CoS: Wacław Stachiewicz (PA) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wacław_Stachiewicz
CoA: Wladyslaw Bortnowski (PA) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Władysław_Bortnowski
CoN: Jerzy Swirski (PA) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerzy_Świrski
CoAF: Józef Zając (PA) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Józef_Zając

My history of Poland:
Pilsudzki died in accident in 1929. To power comes his close associate Edward Rydz-Śmigły who push President Moscicki from power and creates an authoritarian Polish state. He leads very anti-Russian policy, and tries to have good relations with German neighbor.

Of course this is just suggestion. All in all im not very interested in Polish history (how ironic).

I don't know what to do with Baltic states. Ask some guys from these countries.
Well if you don't like polish history, you could fill me in on subjects of history that you like. :)
I wouldn't want you to do something that you don't like.
 

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How do these these borders look? Ameri radio.pngAmeri radio.png
With the losses so much territory is Yugoslavia now just "Greater Serbia"?
 

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^haha nice one Gupka

Originally, 1918 Yugoslavia was created on the basis of Croatia, Bosnia and Slovenia. Then it was offered via referendums and negociations, to include Serbia and Cerna Gora. So if the Serbs refused, they could have revived something like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triune_Kingdom In spite of the Serbs.

Edit: But this Serbia wouldnt have been 'greater serbia' either, as a lot of Serbs would be stranded in the Sava lands west of Bosnia and in Slavonia (eastern-danube croatia). More like a Serbo-Montenegrin kingdom.
 
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Well, let's considere how the Balkan situation might have developed. South Slavs are basically defined as Croats, Bosniaks, Serbs, Slovenes, Montengrins, and Bulgarians. Out of them, Bosniak and Montenegrin might never have developed in this timeline since their branching off was mostly due to Ottoman influence and who knows how that went. A Croat or Slovene national identity might not exist either considering where the Ilyanens are located- they are probably subsumed into the Ilyanens or the Serbs , since it's doubtful that a minority rule or a multi-ethnic state could exist within that tiny piece of land and still manage to go around and form a global empire. (If not so, such a state would've exploded into pieces during or after WWI like the Russian Empire or A-H, since they were on the losing side I believe). There's always the possibility that they are minorities living in Bosnia though, I guess?

For the rest, Albanians are also taken into question since while their origins are disputed, the most-widely held view is that they were derived from a small group of people who managed to expand rapidly during the last few centuries. (There are also the theories that they are descended from Dacians or Illyrians, but they face problems, such as inconsistency with genetics). AKA they might not exist either.

No problems with the Greeks though. They've been around forever.

That being said, what are the Ilyanen anyway? Are they Christian? Muslim? Are they of Slavic descent, or of some other ethnicity? (Or at least what ethnicity do they consider themselves as?) Language and alphabet? (For example, do they use the latin alphabet?)

Regardless, there is a lot of room to work here in the Balkans, especially since the Ottomans don't seem to have had as much influence in the area, judging by the existence of a Ilyanen state and how prosperous it has become, and considering that the Ottomans have been effectively ruling the area for centuries... that's a big point of divergence there to make for many possibilities.
 

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Well if you don't like polish history, you could fill me in on subjects of history that you like. :)
I wouldn't want you to do something that you don't like.

No problem, I mean that I'm not interested in Polish history but i make this goverment based on Polish alternate-history writers. We can said that is not my work is just a collection of thoughts of people who know more on the story of Poland than me.
 

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Ok so I've set up the Lanyans to be the reason for the divergence in the timeline.
This divergence occurred thousands of years ago, when they took the place of the minoan civilization on the islands of santorini and crete.
When the santorini volcanic eruption occurred their civilization was wiped out, however there were survivors. This story of their destruction would later inspire the story of Atlantis by Plato.
The survivors would later travel north and found a new civilization in the same pace present day lanya resides.

Ethnicity: Most lanyans consider themselves to be lanyan.
However there are a number Slavs and a few other minorities within the country.
When they had their global empire they had a great variety of different peoples under their control.


Religion: I guess due to Roman influence most of Lanya is made up of Roman Catholics,
However the nation practices the right to religious freedom.


Language: Lanyan mixed in with a bit of Slavic, German, and Italian, influence.
However Lanyan are required to learn three languages throughout their lifes.

Alphabet: Corrupted ancient Lanyan characters mixed with Latin characters.


PS: This may sound foolish, but I didn't realize how much influence The Ottoman Empire had in the region in the OTL.

Anyway hope all this helps to give you a better picture.
 

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Which looks better?

1: Stationary view screen

2: slide down view screen

PS: Thank you for recommendation on picasa, Gukpa. :)
I just wish I knew how to embed the picture on the forms.

PPS: Don't ask why you have to view it on my google plus profile.
Short version, the controls are extremely complicated. :)
 
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Well,I saw you requesting suggestions for the Baltic States,so what about Give Estonia that have a Russian minority to Russia,and Annex latvia in a Big Lithuania?It will be the first time in a mod that Lithuania could look a interesting nation to play
 

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Well,I saw you requesting suggestions for the Baltic States,so what about Give Estonia that have a Russian minority to Russia,and Annex latvia in a Big Lithuania?It will be the first time in a mod that Lithuania could look a interesting nation to play

I personally think that Gupka's suggestion is the best for now. Olso I congruent with my proposal of Polish government