A development cost policy maybe?

[tobias.mb]

I think development deserves a policy.
I would suggest changing the plutocratic + innovative policy to advisor cost & development cost instead of advisor cost & prestige.

 

[ozyhuboi]

Jeez, have the policies been changed or updated since 1.9? Because if they haven't they really should be considering how overpowered or useless some of those are now.

I swear if the Innovative/Quality or Expansion/Quantity ones are still around they would be way too overpowered.

 

[ozyhuboi]

Oh nvm, they have but those ones are still there....be right back time to give Sweden +50% infantry combat ability.

 

[BrokenSky]

I think development deserves a policy.
I would suggest changing the plutocratic + innovative policy to advisor cost & development cost instead of advisor cost & prestige.

Agree on having a policy, but I think it should not run off plutocratic, and that it should run off either economic or administrative probably and cost paper mana. Have a significant reduction too, perhaps 15 or even 20%? How about Administrative/Quality? And have -15% development cost, +5% moral recovery? or something I'm not sure...

 

[magnusvejby]

Maybe a administrative/trade: Provincial trade development initiative: it will give +5% or 10% Provincial trade power and -10% dev cost, it should probably be a DIP policy.

 

[tobias.mb]

I was thinking of tying it to plutocratic, because most "tall" states are probably either republics (venice or milan for example) or england. And england can also change into a republic iirc (rep. dictatorship under cromwell; if I am not mistaken).
I specifically did not tie it to economic, because you alredy get reduced development from that idea. (I don't like, that economic is the only way to reduce development cost apart from universitys.)
Also I feel that "innovative" kind of fits the idea of a tall state. And don't forget with reduced tech cost and cheaper advisors innovative has great potential of giving you a mana surplus, which you will most likely use for development.
As for administrative: That idea gives you reduced core creation already, so helps you to grow wide. I am not sure if it should get a bonus to tall development at the same time.

As for how much reduction the policy should give... Most policies are about as strong as 1-2 ideas.
One eco idea gives 20% development cost, but (almost) all NIs only give 10% development cost (exceptions are prussia with only 5% and lan na with 20%)
So I think a 15% reduction would be fine. After all that policy would also reduce advisor cost at the same time.

Edit: My second choice would have been innovative + trade. But that policy already is very unique. It's the only policy for reduced interest. Of course it could become an interest & development policy.

 

[BrokenSky]

I was thinking of tying it to plutocratic, because most "tall" states are probably either republics (venice or milan for example) or england. And england can also change into a republic iirc (rep. dictatorship under cromwell; if I am not mistaken).
I specifically did not tie it to economic, because you alredy get reduced development from that idea. (I don't like, that economic is the only way to reduce development cost apart from universitys.)
Also I feel that "innovative" kind of fits the idea of a tall state. And don't forget with reduced tech cost and cheaper advisors innovative has great potential of giving you a mana surplus, which you will most likely use for development.
As for administrative: That idea gives you reduced core creation already, so helps you to grow wide. I am not sure if it should get a bonus to tall development at the same time.

As for how much reduction the policy should give... Most policies are about as strong as 1-2 ideas.
One eco idea gives 20% development cost, but (almost) all NIs only give 10% development cost (exceptions are prussia with only 5% and lan na with 20%)
So I think a 15% reduction would be fine. After all that policy would also reduce advisor cost at the same time.

Edit: My second choice would have been innovative + trade. But that policy already is very unique. It's the only policy for reduced interest. Of course it could become an interest & development policy.

Wrt Innovative vs. Administrative, fair enough. But I dislike the idea of making a policy like this exclusive to republics, though it might be ok if the Aristocratic got a policy which decreased development as well (potentially running off a different idea?) I think it should be an administrative policy though.